Official HEAT 2015-16 Regular Season Thread - Vol. II

[QUIZ]

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Just in case you weren't sure how much we need more shooting.

[ElDoggo]

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Just in case you weren't sure how much we need more shooting.

It's been a constant issue. I used to think bringing Wade off the bench and having Green start would remedy the starting situation but Green is not consistent enough. In addition, Dragic's playmaking with Whiteside has not been there.

[3ballbomber]

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[3ballbomber]

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Again, Bosh is saying the exact issues that needs to be addressed. This is quite understated & 'kinda weak in that area' is an understatement!

[NBADraft2003]

Whiteside getting called out:

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[Hallstar]

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Just in case you weren't sure how much we need more shooting.

Was obvious by the end of November, but here we stand, heading in to February

[Bishop45]

[tweet]https://twitter.com/ethanjskolnick/status/689664794710929408[/tweet]

Just in case you weren't sure how much we need more shooting.

If this is somehow indirect bushes, I'll reiterate. It's not that simple, we need better shooters or A better shooter but the fact that Wade is the only player on the ENTIRE team that can effectively create his own shot is an understatement of our most damning problems. Barreling out for shooters is just digging holes try to fill other ones. Can't consistently create for these shooters and they are useless

Tj/Green/Winslow are our core off the bench and even Gerald has some immunity here, you can't create consistently for them and they are useless. We can go kicking over every trash can looking for a shooter but it's definitely in it's own case, NEEDED to be handled after the fact.

We could use another shooter, We NEED at the very least, one other ballhandler... we don't have enough to just get by

If it's between a shooter and a effective ballhandler, I'm going ballhandler. If we have enough empty roster spots(rotational) to employ to more players then try to do both

[QUIZ]

[tweet]https://twitter.com/ethanjskolnick/status/689664794710929408[/tweet]

Just in case you weren't sure how much we need more shooting.

If this is somehow indirect bushes, I'll reiterate. It's not that simple, we need better shooters or A better shooter but the fact that Wade is the only player on the ENTIRE team that can effectively create his own shot is an understatement of our most damning problems. Barreling out for shooters is just digging holes try to fill other ones. Can't consistently create for these shooters and they are useless

Tj/Green/Winslow are our core off the bench and even Gerald has some immunity here, you can't create consistently for them and they are useless. We can go kicking over every trash can looking for a shooter but it's definitely in it's own case, NEEDED to be handled after the fact.

We could use another shooter, We NEED at the very least, one other ballhandler... we don't have enough to just get by

If it's between a shooter and a effective ballhandler, I'm going ballhandler. If we have enough empty roster spots(rotational) to employ to more players then try to do both

I agree. Ideally we'd add a SF who can shoot and pass. Is LeBron available?

[Bishop45]

[tweet]https://twitter.com/ethanjskolnick/status/689664794710929408[/tweet]

Just in case you weren't sure how much we need more shooting.

If this is somehow indirect bushes, I'll reiterate. It's not that simple, we need better shooters or A better shooter but the fact that Wade is the only player on the ENTIRE team that can effectively create his own shot is an understatement of our most damning problems. Barreling out for shooters is just digging holes try to fill other ones. Can't consistently create for these shooters and they are useless

Tj/Green/Winslow are our core off the bench and even Gerald has some immunity here, you can't create consistently for them and they are useless. We can go kicking over every trash can looking for a shooter but it's definitely in it's own case, NEEDED to be handled after the fact.

We could use another shooter, We NEED at the very least, one other ballhandler... we don't have enough to just get by

If it's between a shooter and a effective ballhandler, I'm going ballhandler. If we have enough empty roster spots(rotational) to employ to more players then try to do both

I agree. Ideally we'd add a SF who can shoot and pass. Is LeBron available?

I don't think so Quiz, I'll take whatever we could get. Honestly not mad if we don't find anybody, just try to make the Playoffs with what we have and focus on marginal health

[STA 13]

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Just in case you weren't sure how much we need more shooting.

Was obvious by the end of November, but here we stand, heading in to February

It was obvious to me going into the season. This board tried to minimize the issue but I didn't understand how they would be able to score with a backcourt full of guys who can't make outside jumpers.

Wade, Deng, Dragic and Winslow play a combined 119 minutes per game and make only 2.7 threes per game at a 29% clip. That is ridiculous. How can you be a good offensive team with that type of shooting from your backcourt??

[J-House]

Would Marcus Thornton been a better pick up than Green?

[Bishop45]

Would Marcus Thornton been a better pick up than Green?

Maybe, too late to ponder

[heat4life]

I was intrigued by Wayne Ellington this summer at one point but I was satisfied with the Green signing for the minimum.

[MettaWorldPanda]

Would Marcus Thornton been a better pick up than Green?

Yes. We struck out on that one. Much like we could have used Napier as a third PG but we gave him away for a wet dish rag. Some very questionable moves by our front office but maybe it was because they were looking beyond to the Durant sweepstakes. I actually liked the Green signing but also made a point that I wanted the Thornton signing to follow. Instead Riley signed a corpse in Amare Stoudemire when we already had two corpses in Birdman and Haslem. Many of us cried that we needed more shooting but it was stubbornly overlooked and now between the lack of shooting and the dumb ass roster construction a team with so much promise is crumbling right before our very eyes.

[QUIZ]

Would Marcus Thornton been a better pick up than Green?

No, he's shooting 35.5% from 3 on a team that encourages high volume 3pt shooting.

On our team where he wouldn't get as many opportunities to get rhythm I doubt he'd be very good. Pretty much everybody other than Bosh is shooting below their career averages here.

[contract]

Reading stuff on Kings boards that Gay about to get traded, possibly Clippers or Bulls?? Said Dwight Howard is on his way out too. Take it with a grain of salt, but, I think things wont get done for Heat until final hours of deadline like last year. We need teams to holdout for better deals, and then realize they don't have much time and make a deal they wouldnt have made in the beginning. Don't even know honestly who a target would be??

I doubt we'll get significant help. Pat is hoarding cap space again, and we don't have anything of value that we're looking to trade. I'll be impressed if Pat manages to dump enough salary to avoid the repeater tax.

[Bishop45]

Would Marcus Thornton been a better pick up than Green?

No, he's shooting 35.5% from 3 on a team that encourages high volume 3pt shooting.

On our team where he wouldn't get as many opportunities to get rhythm I doubt he'd be very good. Pretty much everybody other than Bosh is shooting below their career averages here.

yea' Green would probably have similar, if not better 3pt numbers on the Rockets although Thorton can play under control, dribble, drive and maybe a little more bbiq. That's past-tense though

[MettaWorldPanda]

I smell a salary dump trade on the horizon to get us under the repeater tax. Deng and Birdman to the Blazers for Chris Kaman. We save over 10 million dollars in the trade and get an open roster spot. Green would become the starter at SF. It works out for the Blazers cause they could use a veteran at SF to backup Aminu for a potential 8th seed playoff run and they also need to take on the salary to get to the cap floor. No way is Mickey going to foot a repeater tax bill for this product. I do not see any of our players that we want to get rid of having the value needed in order to obtain a Ryan Anderson or any of the names being thrown around in the trade market unless we want to take on years in salary. I think the goal now has to be get under the tax and roster flexibility. Josh McRoberts has to prove health first before anybody dares take on the next two years of his deal. I think we are essentially stuck with him. We got lucky last year when Dragic forced his way to Miami. Don't think that is happening again this year with any of the potential free agents.

[gom]

I smell a salary dump trade on the horizon to get us under the repeater tax. Deng and Birdman to the Blazers for Chris Kaman and 2nd rounder. We save over 10 million dollars in the trade and get an open roster spot. Green would become the starter at SF. It works out for the Blazers cause they could use a veteran at SF to backup Aminu for a potential 8th seed playoff run and they also need to take on the salary to get to the cap floor. No way is Mickey going to foot a repeater tax bill for this product. I do not see any of our players that we want to get rid of having the value needed in order to obtain a Ryan Anderson or any of the names being thrown around in the trade market unless we want to take on years in salary. I think the goal now has to be get under the tax and roster flexibility. Josh McRoberts has to prove health first before anybody dares take on the next two years of his deal. I think we are essentially stuck with him. We got lucky last year when Dragic forced his way to Miami. Don't think that is happening again this year with any of the potential free agents.

That second rounder is going the wrong way. Portland doesn't need either Deng or Birdman. You need to add value if the trade is to stop Miami from paying repeater tax.

[MettaWorldPanda]

I smell a salary dump trade on the horizon to get us under the repeater tax. Deng and Birdman to the Blazers for Chris Kaman and 2nd rounder. We save over 10 million dollars in the trade and get an open roster spot. Green would become the starter at SF. It works out for the Blazers cause they could use a veteran at SF to backup Aminu for a potential 8th seed playoff run and they also need to take on the salary to get to the cap floor. No way is Mickey going to foot a repeater tax bill for this product. I do not see any of our players that we want to get rid of having the value needed in order to obtain a Ryan Anderson or any of the names being thrown around in the trade market unless we want to take on years in salary. I think the goal now has to be get under the tax and roster flexibility. Josh McRoberts has to prove health first before anybody dares take on the next two years of his deal. I think we are essentially stuck with him. We got lucky last year when Dragic forced his way to Miami. Don't think that is happening again this year with any of the potential free agents.

That second rounder is going the wrong way. Portland doesn't need either Deng or Birdman. You need to add value if the trade is to stop Miami from paying repeater tax.

True. Disregard the 2nd rounder. Portland needs some depth behind Aminu. Why not a veteran like Deng to help them get the 8th seed? They are essentially getting Deng for free and they need to absorb salary to get to the floor. They could use veteran depth at SF.