Miami Heat Speculation Thread - 2020 and beyond...
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Imagine the following scenarios:
1. Miami beats the Bucks and winner of Toronto/Boston and face the LA Clippers, who have just dispatched the Lakers in six games. Miami puts up a tremendous effort,better than the Lakers, and manges 7 games before falling short to a fully realized Kawhi, one who has proven to be the undisputed King of the NBA. AD see's just like the rest of the league LeBron is no longer the apex predator he once was. Taking into account the Lakers poor surrounding aging roster and lack of assets, decides to atleast listen to free agent pitches.
Enter the Don, Spoelstra, Jimmy and Bam. AD is captivated by Riley's aura, legacy and enduring vision of a Dynasty, with AD establishing himself as an all-time NBA icon.
Armed with one of the best coaching staffs in the league, a roster full of proven veteran stars in Jimmy,Goran, Iguodala and rising stars in Bam and Herro, AD decides to go through with the fallout of leaving LeBron and LA, and joins Miami. A terrifying starting line up of Herro,Duncan,Jimmy,AD and Bam. Saved from having to bang with 5s all season, Davis thrives next to the single most dynamic All NBA center in Bam, elite spacing provided Herro and Duncan and all around game winning excellence courtesy of Butler. Able to dominate from the perimeter inwards to his hearts content, as well as lead the leagues best defense, Davis finally vaults himself to the front of MVP contention and puts Miami in a position to win championships for years to come.
2. Miami wins the championship this ****ing season!!! Against all odds(admittedly a long shot) and perhaps favorable circumstances a la Raptors, Miami stuns the league and captures the Larry O'Brien amidst the most unique conditions in NBA history. Davis and Giannis prove unwilling to join an established championship team, and Miami will have to rely on internal development and savvy trades (Oladipo?) to defend it's title.
What would you prefer?
1. Miami beats the Bucks and winner of Toronto/Boston and face the LA Clippers, who have just dispatched the Lakers in six games. Miami puts up a tremendous effort,better than the Lakers, and manges 7 games before falling short to a fully realized Kawhi, one who has proven to be the undisputed King of the NBA. AD see's just like the rest of the league LeBron is no longer the apex predator he once was. Taking into account the Lakers poor surrounding aging roster and lack of assets, decides to atleast listen to free agent pitches.
Enter the Don, Spoelstra, Jimmy and Bam. AD is captivated by Riley's aura, legacy and enduring vision of a Dynasty, with AD establishing himself as an all-time NBA icon.
Armed with one of the best coaching staffs in the league, a roster full of proven veteran stars in Jimmy,Goran, Iguodala and rising stars in Bam and Herro, AD decides to go through with the fallout of leaving LeBron and LA, and joins Miami. A terrifying starting line up of Herro,Duncan,Jimmy,AD and Bam. Saved from having to bang with 5s all season, Davis thrives next to the single most dynamic All NBA center in Bam, elite spacing provided Herro and Duncan and all around game winning excellence courtesy of Butler. Able to dominate from the perimeter inwards to his hearts content, as well as lead the leagues best defense, Davis finally vaults himself to the front of MVP contention and puts Miami in a position to win championships for years to come.
2. Miami wins the championship this ****ing season!!! Against all odds(admittedly a long shot) and perhaps favorable circumstances a la Raptors, Miami stuns the league and captures the Larry O'Brien amidst the most unique conditions in NBA history. Davis and Giannis prove unwilling to join an established championship team, and Miami will have to rely on internal development and savvy trades (Oladipo?) to defend it's title.
What would you prefer?
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Miami known for not relying on the draft since Riley has really crawled back into contention and respect almost purely through the draft and hungry young talent. I think we are done giving up the kitchen sink for other players. I can see AD but I dont think we go wild. Due to hitting on Bam Herro and Drob I think the heat look only for 1 star at a time while looking for young skilled talent to keep this going.
I dont like guys that dont want to be here like as much as I love Beal he could ahve been here if he wanted to. I also dont like how Giannis seemed to quit and couldnt even take over defensively if his shot wasnt dropping.
AD
Parker
Josh Jackson
Cauley-Stein
There will be a ton of option to find the right fit for what we want to do.
I dont like guys that dont want to be here like as much as I love Beal he could ahve been here if he wanted to. I also dont like how Giannis seemed to quit and couldnt even take over defensively if his shot wasnt dropping.
AD
Parker
Josh Jackson
Cauley-Stein
There will be a ton of option to find the right fit for what we want to do.
1. Herro 2. Bol Bol 3. Seko 4. Bruno
unless we trade up for Barrett or trade down for PJ Washington
unless we trade up for Barrett or trade down for PJ Washington
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I expect Jrue Holiday on this roster next year and the team defense will be incredible.
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AirP. wrote:I expect Jrue Holiday on this roster next year and the team defense will be incredible.
Adding Jrue to this team imo would be almost as big as getting a superstar lol
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I've been more on the AD bandwagon than Giannis. AD is much better fit for this team as constructed. AD with Bam and Butler would be a dream come true and a championship team without a doubt. Keep Crowder and let DJJ walk if necessary.
Herro / Dragic
Butler / Duncan
Crowder / Iggy
AD / Okpala
Bam / KO
Herro / Dragic
Butler / Duncan
Crowder / Iggy
AD / Okpala
Bam / KO
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AirP. wrote:I expect Jrue Holiday on this roster next year and the team defense will be incredible.
He’s going to be a trade target for certain, and I prefer him to Oladipo all things considered.
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This offseason will be tricky. We have enough cap room (hopefully) to be able to re-sign Dragic and Crowder to 1 year deals. Leonard and DJJ are most likely gone. I really want us to keep Crowder, we can sign him to a longer term deal once Iggy retires in 2021 and free up 15 mil. As for Dragic I'm not sure if or when we have his bird rights but we need to make sure he retires a Heat.
Pat Riley wrote:And something good is going to come out of this year. We have earned it
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jaseda510 wrote:This offseason will be tricky. We have enough cap room (hopefully) to be able to re-sign Dragic and Crowder to 1 year deals. Leonard and DJJ are most likely gone. I really want us to keep Crowder, we can sign him to a longer term deal once Iggy retires in 2021 and free up 15 mil. As for Dragic I'm not sure if or when we have his bird rights but we need to make sure he retires a Heat.
I think things are way better then you think, they're not a superstar away from being a top contender, they're another really good vet away. The older players should stay near their level, the younger players should get better, just mix in one more really good vet... like Jrue Holiday and it'll be scary. Need a backup defensive big too... Noel(S&T) would be nice.
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If Heat don't win this year, it's clear they will only need one more star instead of two. I love this team so much but replacing Olynik and Meyers with AD would be absolutely insane. I know you guys don't like Lebron anymore but I would literally cry if he came back. The 2010-2014 Heat memories were are so good. I need another "Heat take over NBA" moment in my life.
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The names that I’d like Miami to go after this offseason are as follows:
Stars:
Anthony Davis
Bradley Beal
Jrue Holiday
Victor Oladipo
Serviceable more realistic players:
Demarcus Cousins
Danillo Gallanari
Josh Jackson
Stars:
Anthony Davis
Bradley Beal
Jrue Holiday
Victor Oladipo
Serviceable more realistic players:
Demarcus Cousins
Danillo Gallanari
Josh Jackson
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bamheat wrote:If Heat don't win this year, it's clear they will only need one more star instead of two. I love this team so much but replacing Olynik and Meyers with AD would be absolutely insane. I know you guys don't like Lebron anymore but I would literally cry if he came back. The 2010-2014 Heat memories were are so good. I need another "Heat take over NBA" moment in my life.
I wouldn't want Lebron back. Not because he isn't good, but this offense we have is a joy to watch. It isn't one guy with a high usage pounding the ball and hitting a shooter. It's a ton of ball movement and player movement.
Not saying Bron can't do that as we were actually unbeatable in the Big 3 era when we moved the ball. However, Bron is going to be 36 going on 37 next season, and those legs can't energize like they used to. He's also a ball stopper. I don't want that. I want contributions from everyone, not the expectation that Bron is going to hold the ball until he sees a play develop.
I like Olynyk well enough. He has his downside, but I trust him. Meyers doesn't do much on the floor. He's a great cheerleader though, and is a must for reporters to interview after the game. Minimum salary type of deal for him.
We currently have an AD shaped hole in our defense. It'd be nice to see him fill it. Low chances of happening. I'm getting fonder by the day regarding drafting a big like Daniel Oturu, and speeding his development. At minimum, he can defend and rebound. He has a shot too. Hitting it under pressure will define his minutes if we drafted him.
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Jrue is probably a slightly better player than Dipo, the issue is he’d also cost more in a trade and his salary goes past 2021. He also has a sketchy injury history.
Actually on review, he has a Player Option at $26m for 2021. It’s possible he’d opt out and work with us, but you’d need assurances from him and his management.
What would a deal for him look like though? You’re likely saying goodbye to Tyler Herro in that scenario, which I’m finding increasingly unpalatable.
Actually on review, he has a Player Option at $26m for 2021. It’s possible he’d opt out and work with us, but you’d need assurances from him and his management.
What would a deal for him look like though? You’re likely saying goodbye to Tyler Herro in that scenario, which I’m finding increasingly unpalatable.
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Wiltside wrote:Jrue is probably a slightly better player than Dipo, the issue is he’d also cost more in a trade and his salary goes past 2021. He also has a sketchy injury history.
Actually on review, he has a Player Option at $26m for 2021. It’s possible he’d opt out and work with us, but you’d need assurances from him and his management.
What would a deal for him look like though? You’re likely saying goodbye to Tyler Herro in that scenario, which I’m finding increasingly unpalatable.
Yeah, you can't trade Herro unless he's part of a package for a franchise changing player. Herro is twenty years old, a sharp shooter, an all out effort defender, and his balls are the size of pumpkins. Cannot move him.
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DayofMourning wrote:Wiltside wrote:Jrue is probably a slightly better player than Dipo, the issue is he’d also cost more in a trade and his salary goes past 2021. He also has a sketchy injury history.
Actually on review, he has a Player Option at $26m for 2021. It’s possible he’d opt out and work with us, but you’d need assurances from him and his management.
What would a deal for him look like though? You’re likely saying goodbye to Tyler Herro in that scenario, which I’m finding increasingly unpalatable.
Yeah, you can't trade Herro unless he's part of a package for a franchise changing player. Herro is twenty years old, a sharp shooter, an all out effort defender, and his balls are the size of pumpkins. Cannot move him.
Butler, Bam, and Herro have been mentioned as untouchable in trades before the season and I'd expect nothing has changed in that situation.
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Also why do people want Olidipo? He had 1 good season and then got injured. I wouldnt touch him at all.
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Got to find a way to keep Jae and Goran. It's all fun and games to think about what top tier dude you can add, but Jae and Dragon are MAJOR reasons why we are doing what we're doing. You get cute, and lose those guys, and you're not making postseason runs. We need one more top ten guy, but we need to keep these ELITE level role players.
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Justise Winslow trade was one of the franchise's best trades ever. Can't even debate it.
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Do you think Jae and Goran would accept 1 year $15 million contracts?

















