2025 Playoffs: Round 1, Game 3: Cleveland @ Miami - 1pm EST on 4/26
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It’s a coaches job to find ways and run sets to exploit mismatches, not the players. I’m sure Spo is going to fire back on Garland after his comments
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Does bam have any intentions of showing up in game 3 offensively? And Wiggins too? If neither of them doesn’t show up in game 3, the series are over.
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NightWatch wrote:Does bam have any intentions of showing up in game 3 offensively? And Wiggins too? If neither of them doesn’t show up in game 3, the series are over.
Probably parking him in the corner again and having him and Mitchell be the only 2 players who play defense on the night
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I wonder if Heat should insert highsmith in the startling line up in place of Wiggins? Wiggins just doesn’t contribute much. Wiggins plays lame defense and doesn’t really contribute much on offense so far in playoff. Example, if Wiggins shots are not falling, he doesn’t not have much to give on defenses. At least, highsmith have something to give on defense if his shots are not falling.
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Shewasfly wrote:If you look at the stats, the great, 2 time all star Darius Garland is giving up 67% shooting. Strus and Donovan are also giving up over 50%. The difference is, like I've been saying, they're only having to defend 10 shots a game. Meanwhile they smartly have our poor defenders, guys like Herro, having to defend 17. That's huge, and that's on our offense.
https://www.nba.com/stats/players/defense-dash-overall?SeasonType=Playoffs&TeamID=1610612748
We have to find a way to get mismatches and force their weak defenders to defend. It will help us on both sides of the ball. This is where Bam and Wiggins have to be better.
I think that has alot more to do with the talent they have and play making available to work it to get the weak defender and then attack them.
Donovan, Garland and Jerome are all either elite or pretty good at attacking a weak defender and have a bag. Donovan is a top 10 player, Garland is an all star caliber guy and Jerome is just having a silly effin' season and rightful winner of 6th man. Reminds me a little of when Luka got hurt and brunson had to carry the load in playoffs for Dallas and looked pretty damn good and went to NYK that off season. Really curious to see what becomes of Jerome in off season and as a starter somewhere.
Meanwhile we have... Herro. Bam is not a guy that attacks a mismatch consistently. Davion might actually be our 2nd best guy at it. Wiggins is more Haywood than Jimmy. He ain't it. Jovic is ok at it but needs more time and rusty.
Not saying spo isn't to blame at all but you get whoever you want on their weak link, who are you betting on other than herro to make a bucket? Really sucks that Jimmy left now that we finally got ware and davion and Pelle.
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3ammy3uck3ts wrote:NightWatch wrote:Does bam have any intentions of showing up in game 3 offensively? And Wiggins too? If neither of them doesn’t show up in game 3, the series are over.
Probably parking him in the corner again and having him and Mitchell be the only 2 players who play defense on the night
Bam defenses are fine but his offense is nowhere to be seen.if we could switch bam for 40 years old LeBron James, Heat would have a better chance of winning.
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NightWatch wrote:3ammy3uck3ts wrote:NightWatch wrote:Does bam have any intentions of showing up in game 3 offensively? And Wiggins too? If neither of them doesn’t show up in game 3, the series are over.
Probably parking him in the corner again and having him and Mitchell be the only 2 players who play defense on the night
Bam defenses are fine but his offense is nowhere to be seen.if we could switch bam for 40 years old LeBron James, Heat would have a better chance of winning.
TBF that's one of the all-time greats. Any team would boost their chances of winning by adding that kind of talent.
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3ammy3uck3ts wrote:Surely the box score watchers are aware Bam was 1 assist away from a triple double last game in addition to elite defense and you all were livid he was being used as Shane Battier regardless of that. Points are king, everything else is irrelevant
My G, 3-9 shooting for 11 points just won't get the job done.
Bam needs to be aggressive and assertive.
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Complaining about Bam ain't it. We need to have a better built roster. Bam is a do it all defensive anchor and ultimate glue guy but he's better off as the 3 or 4 scoring option. Sometimes he gets you 10-10-10, sometimes a 28-7-7. He just isn't built that way to do it consistently.
We need Durant or a player of that magnitude. It would completely change the team. If we had durant over wiggins and rozier, this series would be 1-1. We take game 2.
Let's just try to enjoy the series and hope for the best. We just don't have the horses.
We need Durant or a player of that magnitude. It would completely change the team. If we had durant over wiggins and rozier, this series would be 1-1. We take game 2.
Let's just try to enjoy the series and hope for the best. We just don't have the horses.
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Lennyzinho wrote:Complaining about Bam ain't it. We need to have a better built roster. Bam is a do it all defensive anchor and ultimate glue guy but he's better off as the 3 or 4 scoring option. Sometimes he gets you 10-10-10, sometimes a 28-7-7. He just isn't built that way to do it consistently.
We need Durant or a player of that magnitude. It would completely change the team. If we had durant over wiggins and rozier, this series would be 1-1. We take game 2.
Let's just try to enjoy the series and hope for the best. We just don't have the horses.
Bro’s about to secure $50 mil a year while being a third or fourth option, that’s insane, and I refused to believe that.
He’s flashed that two-way monster potential before, and he’s proven it on the biggest stage. He just needs to wake up that lion inside. You can bet he’s dropping a big Game 3.
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Bam did all the little things in game 2, but he has to do the big things too. Can't be a top 2 player on the team and only score 11. Need 20 minimum from him every game.
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carnageta wrote:3ammy3uck3ts wrote:Surely the box score watchers are aware Bam was 1 assist away from a triple double last game in addition to elite defense and you all were livid he was being used as Shane Battier regardless of that. Points are king, everything else is irrelevant
My G, 3-9 shooting for 11 points just won't get the job done.
Bam needs to be aggressive and assertive.
I agree, he’s our best player Spo needs to be involving him in the scoring instead of posting him up in the corner
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NightWatch wrote:3ammy3uck3ts wrote:NightWatch wrote:Does bam have any intentions of showing up in game 3 offensively? And Wiggins too? If neither of them doesn’t show up in game 3, the series are over.
Probably parking him in the corner again and having him and Mitchell be the only 2 players who play defense on the night
Bam defenses are fine but his offense is nowhere to be seen.if we could switch bam for 40 years old LeBron James, Heat would have a better chance of winning.
Congrats on the dumbest post I’ve read in a long time, that’s saying something
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Heat3 wrote:Bam did all the little things in game 2, but he has to do the big things too. Can't be a top 2 player on the team and only score 11. Need 20 minimum from him every game.
20+ in 12 straight playoff games until last game where he just missed the triple double.
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marson wrote:Lennyzinho wrote:Complaining about Bam ain't it. We need to have a better built roster. Bam is a do it all defensive anchor and ultimate glue guy but he's better off as the 3 or 4 scoring option. Sometimes he gets you 10-10-10, sometimes a 28-7-7. He just isn't built that way to do it consistently.
We need Durant or a player of that magnitude. It would completely change the team. If we had durant over wiggins and rozier, this series would be 1-1. We take game 2.
Let's just try to enjoy the series and hope for the best. We just don't have the horses.
Bro’s about to secure $50 mil a year while being a third or fourth option, that’s insane, and I refused to believe that.
He’s flashed that two-way monster potential before, and he’s proven it on the biggest stage. He just needs to wake up that lion inside. You can bet he’s dropping a big Game 3.
Bams simply not going to score the amount of points you all want until Spo values him as a scorer and he has shown no signs of that until his hand is forced when guys are out (and Bam dominates). It just is what it is, Bams said he wants 18 shots a night, Pat has said he wants Spo to give him more shots, but Spo values him as a connector on both ends and the key to majority of what we do as opposed to a scorer. It’s unfortunate, we saw what he did to this Cavs team when everyone was out and he was bumped up to the 1st option.
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3ammy3uck3ts wrote:Heat3 wrote:Bam did all the little things in game 2, but he has to do the big things too. Can't be a top 2 player on the team and only score 11. Need 20 minimum from him every game.
20+ in 12 straight playoff games until last game where he just missed the triple double.
Every game means every game. If he did it 12 straight games then it should be obvious that when he scores only half as much it is below what it is expected of him. Hopefully he does better next game.
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3ammy3uck3ts wrote:marson wrote:Lennyzinho wrote:Complaining about Bam ain't it. We need to have a better built roster. Bam is a do it all defensive anchor and ultimate glue guy but he's better off as the 3 or 4 scoring option. Sometimes he gets you 10-10-10, sometimes a 28-7-7. He just isn't built that way to do it consistently.
We need Durant or a player of that magnitude. It would completely change the team. If we had durant over wiggins and rozier, this series would be 1-1. We take game 2.
Let's just try to enjoy the series and hope for the best. We just don't have the horses.
Bro’s about to secure $50 mil a year while being a third or fourth option, that’s insane, and I refused to believe that.
He’s flashed that two-way monster potential before, and he’s proven it on the biggest stage. He just needs to wake up that lion inside. You can bet he’s dropping a big Game 3.
Bams simply not going to score the amount of points you all want until Spo values him as a scorer and he has shown no signs of that until his hand is forced when guys are out (and Bam dominates). It just is what it is, Bams said he wants 18 shots a night, Pat has said he wants Spo to give him more shots, but Spo values him as a connector on both ends and the key to majority of what we do as opposed to a scorer. It’s unfortunate, we saw what he did to this Cavs team when everyone was out and he was bumped up to the 1st option.
Do you think other coaches can unlock Bam to his full potential? It's a hypothetical question, I would think he would flourish under a more offensive minded coach like D'antoni in the past.
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marson wrote:3ammy3uck3ts wrote:marson wrote:
Bro’s about to secure $50 mil a year while being a third or fourth option, that’s insane, and I refused to believe that.
He’s flashed that two-way monster potential before, and he’s proven it on the biggest stage. He just needs to wake up that lion inside. You can bet he’s dropping a big Game 3.
Bams simply not going to score the amount of points you all want until Spo values him as a scorer and he has shown no signs of that until his hand is forced when guys are out (and Bam dominates). It just is what it is, Bams said he wants 18 shots a night, Pat has said he wants Spo to give him more shots, but Spo values him as a connector on both ends and the key to majority of what we do as opposed to a scorer. It’s unfortunate, we saw what he did to this Cavs team when everyone was out and he was bumped up to the 1st option.
Do you think other coaches can unlock Bam to his full potential? It's a hypothetical question, I would think he would flourish under a more offensive minded coach like D'antoni in the past.
Absolutely. I mean a legit playmaking PG would have him walking into 2 more buckets a game by accident tbh.
I’m not even knocking Spo for it to be clear, every coach has their way of doing things and we’ve almost won a championship in this role but Bam being solidified in the Chris Bosh role minus a LeBron and Wade is a joke in my opinion. He’s going to give you his 20-10-5 a night (give or take) with elite defense and that’s exactly what Spo wants. 9 shots last game, 2-3 of them were last second grenades. I can promise you if Spo wanted more scoring from Bam he would’ve ran some sets for him
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