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2017 Draft Thread 2.0- Something to... Lmfao.. lol @

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Who do you want from realistic options such as T.J. Leaf? Vote T.J. Now

T.J. Leaf
13
14%
John Collins
4
4%
Isaiah Hartenstein
4
4%
OG Anunoby
8
9%
Justin Jackson
12
13%
Justin Patton
5
5%
Harry Giles
7
8%
Zach Collins
18
19%
Luke Kennard
8
9%
Other
14
15%
 
Total votes: 93

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Post#201 » by Rastas » Wed Mar 15, 2017 10:23 am

Have you guyz finishing 6th in the East (1st rnd vs Celts) and picking at 18 - the price you pay for peaking a little to soon maybe.
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Post#202 » by MartyConlonJr » Wed Mar 15, 2017 11:04 am

I wonder if Phoenix would want to draft in our position at say 14-18, then trade the player we draft back for our 2018 pick. We are top 7 protected next year so best case is an 8th pick but more likely with no players on the decline next year we improve. Gives us back whatever that positions draft hold is to add to the FA pot. Not saying we should, just maybe an option
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Post#203 » by RexBoyWonder » Wed Mar 15, 2017 11:13 am

I'm not yet sold on Skal but the idea of trading the pick for a better known PF should be considered, we have enough semi projects and young pieces.

There are a few PF's that can shoot that should be available when we pick, but as of right now I'm not sure who I like best.
Key names are :

Isaiah Hartenstein
Tyler Lydon
Semi Ojeleye
Caleb Swanigan
Alec Peters

Miles Bridges will be gone before we pick IMO but Hope he slips.
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Post#204 » by Bishop45 » Wed Mar 15, 2017 11:45 am

My top3 for us right now if we're lucky enough to be in favorable position for these guys

Swanigan
Patton
Leaf

Alot of murky mock drafts around 12-20 so no telling where anyone actually goes but I'll hold on to these 3 til' otherwise

Patton's my second but I feel like more qualities of a Heat player come from Leaf. Both need to put on a little more size but Patton's career's going to be a little more reliant on that

Timmy T has a nic DX vid too, distracts from their new "do-too-much" layout



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Post#205 » by Noodle Arm » Wed Mar 15, 2017 5:37 pm

So DX still has us drafting Terrance Ferguson at 14. I actually like Ferguson a lot, but even I have to admit that seems to be a bit high. He's the type of player you draft in the 20's.

Having said that, I understand why scouts seem to like him. He has good size (6'7"), can make amazing highlight dunks and shoots the lights out. His shooting form is textbook and he has a lightning quick release. Apparently, he's also a great kid off the court. He's also only 18 years old, which is probably one of the main reasons he's being considered this high in the draft.

Unfortunately, he has some big flaws. Namely being, his handle...or lack thereof. He has good burst and speed, but his lack of dribbling ability causes him to settle for bad/contested shots. Also causes him to be a straight line slasher with no creativity at the rim. His numbers weren't impressive while playing his one season in Australia, but fans seem to love him and think he's capable of more. He just plays too unselfish and needs to play with that alpha mentality at times.

So basically, as of now...he's slotted as a 3&D player who can make spectacular dunks. What does that mean for the Heat? Well, I guess he'd fill the Ellington role as the 3 point sniper since he's not a combo guard like JRich and TJ are. Although Ferguson is a much more explosive athlete than Ellington. Plus...he's ONLY 18! (he'll just have turned 19 when the draft rolls around), so a lot of these flaws can possibly be worked out. This is all just my opinion though. I'm no draft expert, just a Heat fan with no life and easily suckered into watching player videos :lol:

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Post#206 » by twix2500 » Wed Mar 15, 2017 7:03 pm

Noodle Arm wrote:So DX still has us drafting Terrance Ferguson at 14. I actually like Ferguson a lot, but even I have to admit that seems to be a bit high. He's the type of player you draft in the 20's.

Having said that, I understand why scouts seem to like him. He has good size (6'7"), can make amazing highlight dunks and shoots the lights out. His shooting form is textbook and he has a lightning quick release. Apparently, he's also a great kid off the court. He's also only 18 years old, which is probably one of the main reasons he's being considered this high in the draft.

Unfortunately, he has some big flaws. Namely being, his handle...or lack thereof. He has good burst and speed, but his lack of dribbling ability causes him to settle for bad/contested shots. Also causes him to be a straight line slasher with no creativity at the rim. His numbers weren't impressive while playing his one season in Australia, but fans seem to love him and think he's capable of more. He just plays too unselfish and needs to play with that alpha mentality at times.

So basically, as of now...he's slotted as a 3&D player who can make spectacular dunks. What does that mean for the Heat? Well, I guess he'd fill the Ellington role as the 3 point sniper since he's not a combo guard like JRich and TJ are. Although Ferguson is a much more explosive athlete than Ellington. Plus...he's ONLY 18! (he'll just have turned 19 when the draft rolls around), so a lot of these flaws can possibly be worked out. This is all just my opinion though. I'm no draft expert, just a Heat fan with no life and easily suckered into watching player videos

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His handles appears to be able to be approved on with no problem. Being 18 he may still have a growth spurt. Problem he may be 2 yrs away from contributing on a veteran team like the Heat

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Post#207 » by Bishop45 » Wed Mar 15, 2017 11:36 pm

I like Semi Olejeye better for us if we want a wing- despite his age, plus we might not be picking 14th if we move up in standings

Semi looks like he could play 2-4 with his physical profile + Semi beats 2k Ferguson in every nickname category possible
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Post#208 » by Duke4life831 » Thu Mar 16, 2017 3:14 am

Im a big fan of both Ferguson and Semi. Both would be getting drafted on the potential to be a 3&D players and not a star. Semi is really explosive but not the most fluid athlete while Ferguson is also very explosive and I believe is more agile but their frames are polar opposite with Ferguson being very skinny and Semi, well hes a freaking tank.

I do give the edge to Ferguson though because I think hes going to be a better shooter and has more potential to maybe add some kind of ability to score off the dribble. I think both fit you guys pretty well with their shooting.
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Post#209 » by Noodle Arm » Thu Mar 16, 2017 3:10 pm

Duke4life831 wrote:Im a big fan of both Ferguson and Semi. Both would be getting drafted on the potential to be a 3&D players and not a star. Semi is really explosive but not the most fluid athlete while Ferguson is also very explosive and I believe is more agile but their frames are polar opposite with Ferguson being very skinny and Semi, well hes a freaking tank.

I do give the edge to Ferguson though because I think hes going to be a better shooter and has more potential to maybe add some kind of ability to score off the dribble. I think both fit you guys pretty well with their shooting.


Completely agree with you on both players.

Speaking of Semi...watch this mini documentary/interview. Dude has Heat/Riley culture written all over him.

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Post#210 » by Rapaz » Thu Mar 16, 2017 3:25 pm

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Duke4life831 wrote:Im a big fan of both Ferguson and Semi. Both would be getting drafted on the potential to be a 3&D players and not a star. Semi is really explosive but not the most fluid athlete while Ferguson is also very explosive and I believe is more agile but their frames are polar opposite with Ferguson being very skinny and Semi, well hes a freaking tank.

I do give the edge to Ferguson though because I think hes going to be a better shooter and has more potential to maybe add some kind of ability to score off the dribble. I think both fit you guys pretty well with their shooting.


Completely agree with you on both players.

Speaking of Semi...watch this mini documentary/interview. Dude has Heat/Riley culture written all over him.


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Post#211 » by UD4MVP » Fri Mar 17, 2017 2:02 am

I think I would have Semi as the best player available at our spot if we get the 7th seed
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Post#212 » by Bishop45 » Fri Mar 17, 2017 8:38 pm

Ojeley's having some game

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Post#213 » by Bishop45 » Sat Mar 18, 2017 12:55 pm

Patton gives me the Bibbert hives, he's almost too soft... Considering abandoning island

Ojeley was having a game until the last few minutes when they just started chucking for their lives



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Post#214 » by DayofMourning » Sat Mar 18, 2017 1:15 pm

Bishop45 wrote:I like Semi Olejeye better for us if we want a wing- despite his age, plus we might not be picking 14th if we move up in standings

Semi looks like he could play 2-4 with his physical profile + Semi beats 2k Ferguson in every nickname category possible


His full name is actually:

Jesusemilore Talodabijesu Ojeleye

Even more potential, Bishop.
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Post#215 » by RJM » Sat Mar 18, 2017 7:30 pm

RexBoyWonder wrote:I'm not yet sold on Skal but the idea of trading the pick for a better known PF should be considered, we have enough semi projects and young pieces.

There are a few PF's that can shoot that should be available when we pick, but as of right now I'm not sure who I like best.
Key names are :

Isaiah Hartenstein
Tyler Lydon
Semi Ojeleye
Caleb Swanigan
Alec Peters

Miles Bridges will be gone before we pick IMO but Hope he slips.




Good Lord.

Skal is still on his rookie contract (meaning the money can be used elsewhere on a potential star), a first rounder (so we can extend it), and he did this last week.

PG: Goran Dragic
SG:
SF: Justise Winslow
PF: Skal Labissiere
C: Hassan Whiteside

Watching this team grow will be exciting and wonderful. If Richardson gets his head out of his ass before it's too late, this team will be something special for the next 5-6 years.
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Post#216 » by Feel_the_Heat15 » Sat Mar 18, 2017 9:26 pm

Spoiler:
RJM wrote:
RexBoyWonder wrote:I'm not yet sold on Skal but the idea of trading the pick for a better known PF should be considered, we have enough semi projects and young pieces.

There are a few PF's that can shoot that should be available when we pick, but as of right now I'm not sure who I like best.
Key names are :

Isaiah Hartenstein
Tyler Lydon
Semi Ojeleye
Caleb Swanigan
Alec Peters

Miles Bridges will be gone before we pick IMO but Hope he slips.




Good Lord.

Skal is still on his rookie contract (meaning the money can be used elsewhere on a potential star), a first rounder (so we can extend it), and he did this last week.

PG: Goran Dragic
SG:
SF: Justise Winslow
PF: Skal Labissiere
C: Hassan Whiteside

Watching this team grow will be exciting and wonderful. If Richardson gets his head out of his ass before it's too late, this team will be something special for the next 5-6 years.


Not happening, doesn't make sense for the Kings to trade away a productive young player like Skal for a mid-round pick.
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Post#217 » by Bishop45 » Sat Mar 18, 2017 9:26 pm

Not ready to flee Patton island but shaded by the fact that he's 3 ply.

Haven't watched the mythical Gonzagian yet, his island still very much in question. We have highlights now doe

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Post#218 » by puppa bear » Sun Mar 19, 2017 2:07 am

Feel_the_Heat15 wrote:
Spoiler:
RJM wrote:
RexBoyWonder wrote:I'm not yet sold on Skal but the idea of trading the pick for a better known PF should be considered, we have enough semi projects and young pieces.

There are a few PF's that can shoot that should be available when we pick, but as of right now I'm not sure who I like best.
Key names are :

Isaiah Hartenstein
Tyler Lydon
Semi Ojeleye
Caleb Swanigan
Alec Peters

Miles Bridges will be gone before we pick IMO but Hope he slips.




Good Lord.

Skal is still on his rookie contract (meaning the money can be used elsewhere on a potential star), a first rounder (so we can extend it), and he did this last week.

PG: Goran Dragic
SG:
SF: Justise Winslow
PF: Skal Labissiere
C: Hassan Whiteside

Watching this team grow will be exciting and wonderful. If Richardson gets his head out of his ass before it's too late, this team will be something special for the next 5-6 years.


Not happening, doesn't make sense for the Kings to trade away a productive young player like Skal for a mid-round pick.

100% agree. The only way we get a chance to pull that trigger is if someone they like drops to us - at that point we have a Justise & we take the blue-chipper who dropped.
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Post#219 » by puppa bear » Sun Mar 19, 2017 2:17 am

The mid-to-late first is looking like it might yield a lot of role-players to fringe starters. The depth of the top of this draft has Brent he talking point for most of the year, but the emergence of middle over the back end of the NCAA season, and what is about to happen in the Tourney, might end up making this the most bountiful draft for a long time. It's missing the all-time star power of the 2003 draft, but it may end up being deeper and yielding more starting level talent.

As much as I've been dirty on missing out on a top-5 pick, that's to that streak, we may still end up in a position to choose from 2 or 3 role-playing PFs, with starter potential. We could have players like Rabb, Leaf, Hartenstein, and Giles in our range, and more than one to pick from.
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Post#220 » by RJM » Sun Mar 19, 2017 1:52 pm

Feel_the_Heat15 wrote:
Spoiler:
RJM wrote:
RexBoyWonder wrote:I'm not yet sold on Skal but the idea of trading the pick for a better known PF should be considered, we have enough semi projects and young pieces.

There are a few PF's that can shoot that should be available when we pick, but as of right now I'm not sure who I like best.
Key names are :

Isaiah Hartenstein
Tyler Lydon
Semi Ojeleye
Caleb Swanigan
Alec Peters

Miles Bridges will be gone before we pick IMO but Hope he slips.




Good Lord.

Skal is still on his rookie contract (meaning the money can be used elsewhere on a potential star), a first rounder (so we can extend it), and he did this last week.

PG: Goran Dragic
SG:
SF: Justise Winslow
PF: Skal Labissiere
C: Hassan Whiteside

Watching this team grow will be exciting and wonderful. If Richardson gets his head out of his ass before it's too late, this team will be something special for the next 5-6 years.


Not happening, doesn't make sense for the Kings to trade away a productive young player like Skal for a mid-round pick.


However minute, I'm willing to bet that the same franchise that gave up Isaiah Thomas, DeMarcus Cousins, Hassan Whiteside, Tyreke Evans, and Nik Stauskas within the last ten years could still be dumb enough to trade Skal Labissiere for our pick if no one we like is available.

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