MIAMI HEAT Offseason Thread 2021 Vol.2

[AirP.]

Keldon Johnson and some no name guy from Detroit over Tyler Herro?


Tyler better take this to heart and come back with a vengeance, similar to how Bam did 2 years ago.

No name guy from Detroit? Saddiq Bey? He was 1st team all-rookie this last season. He's a good 3pt shooter that can play defense.

Picked right before Miami's pick... a lot of people on this board wanted him in Miami.

[Beenie]

Keldon Johnson and some no name guy from Detroit over Tyler Herro?


Tyler better take this to heart and come back with a vengeance, similar to how Bam did 2 years ago.

No name guy from Detroit? Saddiq Bey? He was 1st team all-rookie this last season. He's a good 3pt shooter that can play defense.

Picked right before Miami's pick... a lot of people on this board wanted him in Miami.

I wanted him.

Behind Tyrell Terry.

[Wiltside]

I was keen on Bey and Bane. Both would’ve been good options in hindsight. Bey was gonna be my low cost Crowder replacement smh.

[Kobewade11]

Keldon Johnson and some no name guy from Detroit over Tyler Herro?


Tyler better take this to heart and come back with a vengeance, similar to how Bam did 2 years ago.

I dont see it as a big deal. They’re just playing in a couple of exhibition games, but if its added “fuel” so be it. In Bam’s case he had no one but himself to blame, went in to USA camp playing timid so coaches had no idea what he could do.

[CanesHeatFins]

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The hell is a DHO?

[RexBoyWonder]

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The hell is a DHO?

Dribble Handoffs AKA Duncan running like a meth-head around Bam.


Lowry is a good smart player but I Find it very hard to get excited about his 35 YO bootay making 25Mil per for multiple years.

[puppa bear]

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The hell is a DHO?

Dribble Handoffs AKA Duncan running like a meth-head around Bam.


Lowry is a good smart player but I Find it very hard to get excited about his 35 YO bootay making 25Mil per for multiple years.

You’re not the only one Rex, but I’m doing my best to try to talk myself into it

[twix2500]

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[twix2500]

If Dinwiddie gets 20 mil per, it wouldn't be shocking.

Although I'm high on him, I wouldn't offer him that big of a bag, not with cheaper options available who are comparable to him.

But pretty much every year there are examples of teams overpaying for guys.

It's a players/sellers market.

It would be very shocking to me. Ball, Lowry, Conley, Shroeder, are going to get the biggest offers. Hell, Reggie Jackson and Cam Payne have played themselves into Dinwiddie’s slice of the pie.

We should not get scared of rumor of what someone wants. There is only so much salary available. All these rumor wants cant happen

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[Beenie]

If Dinwiddie gets 20 mil per, it wouldn't be shocking.

Although I'm high on him, I wouldn't offer him that big of a bag, not with cheaper options available who are comparable to him.

But pretty much every year there are examples of teams overpaying for guys.

It's a players/sellers market.

It would be very shocking to me. Ball, Lowry, Conley, Shroeder, are going to get the biggest offers. Hell, Reggie Jackson and Cam Payne have played themselves into Dinwiddie’s slice of the pie.

We should not get scared of rumor of what someone wants. There is only so much salary available. All these rumor wants cant happen

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Not scared at all.

If Mia whiffs on all of the marquee guards, I still think there are gonna be interesting options for them to consider either by way of the MLE or perhaps even lower money options.

I'd like Mia to take a flyer on Dennis Smith Jr. if they lose Nunn.

[AirP.]

The hell is a DHO?

Dribble Handoffs AKA Duncan running like a meth-head around Bam.


Lowry is a good smart player but I Find it very hard to get excited about his 35 YO bootay making 25Mil per for multiple years.

You’re not the only one Rex, but I’m doing my best to try to talk myself into it

Really? I think Lowry at 25 mil at his age is WAY more value then say Robinson at 15, let alone 20. Robinson can shoot 3s better, that's it, nothing else. Lowry is a great defender, good 3pt shooter, great distributor and much like Butler, will do the little things to help a team win.

I'm way more worried giving 15+ million to a player with just one strength like Robinson(although it's a great single strength to have). Sure there are situations where you'd want Robinson at 15 more then Lowry at 25 but Miami isn't one of those situations.

[AirP.]

It would be very shocking to me. Ball, Lowry, Conley, Shroeder, are going to get the biggest offers. Hell, Reggie Jackson and Cam Payne have played themselves into Dinwiddie’s slice of the pie.

We should not get scared of rumor of what someone wants. There is only so much salary available. All these rumor wants cant happen

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Not scared at all.

If Mia whiffs on all of the marquee guards, I still think there are gonna be interesting options for them to consider either by way of the MLE or perhaps even lower money options.

I'd like Mia to take a flyer on Dennis Smith Jr. if they lose Nunn.

Go get Lowry for more leadership then go get some guys who have talent but haven't lived up to expectations for not much money or not much in assets, if Miami has enough "stability" then just unlocking one of those talents would be incredible for Miami. Players for example like... DSJ, MB3, Markkanen, Monk, Dunn(if he opts out), T.Prince, Valentine, Bamba, J.Culver. Get some of these players in Miami's environment and see if they just needed more structure and veteran leadership.

[MettaWorldPanda]

Keldon Johnson and some no name guy from Detroit over Tyler Herro?


Tyler better take this to heart and come back with a vengeance, similar to how Bam did 2 years ago.

I would take Keldon Johnson and Saddiq Bey over Tyler too. Those thinking he’s the next Booker are terribly mistaken. More like JJ Reddick. His 6’3 wingspan is the same as Reddick’s too. Nice long time NBA complimentary piece.

[twix2500]

Remember if the Heat work as an over the cap team they have 58 mill dollars of cap room. To work with in trades and resigning. More than that if you count Herro, Achiuwa and KZ as trade chips

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[SA37]

Keldon Johnson and some no name guy from Detroit over Tyler Herro?


Tyler better take this to heart and come back with a vengeance, similar to how Bam did 2 years ago.

I would take Keldon Johnson and Saddiq Bey over Tyler too. Those thinking he’s the next Booker are terribly mistaken. More like JJ Reddick. His 6’3 wingspan is the same as Reddick’s too. Nice long time NBA complimentary piece.

Herro has a lot more skills at his disposal than Reddick ever has had. Herro can handle the ball and can get to the basket and create for himself or others. However, becoming a primary ball-handler/playmaker comes with a huge learning curve and Herro doesn't seem to have much experience in that role.

Right now Herro is probably most comparable to Evan Fournier or Tim Hardaway Jr; Devin Booker or CJ McCollum would be his high end and I think he can still has a shot of getting to that level.

What makes Booker so effective is that he doesn't try to do more than he is capable of. He seems to know his limits and doesn't force up shots or take bad shots. It takes time to learn that. Let's not forget it is Booker's 6th season; Herro has just completed his injury-plagued second season with all the changes that came with the pandemic. Herro really hasn't had a full offseason and probably did not have access to all the usual coaching, trainers, and pickup games that can help lead to big improvements.

Let's see where Herro is in 2 years.

[MettaWorldPanda]

Keldon Johnson and some no name guy from Detroit over Tyler Herro?


Tyler better take this to heart and come back with a vengeance, similar to how Bam did 2 years ago.

I would take Keldon Johnson and Saddiq Bey over Tyler too. Those thinking he’s the next Booker are terribly mistaken. More like JJ Reddick. His 6’3 wingspan is the same as Reddick’s too. Nice long time NBA complimentary piece.

Herro has a lot more skills at his disposal than Reddick ever has had. Herro can handle the ball and can get to the basket and create for himself or others. However, becoming a primary ball-handler/playmaker comes with a huge learning curve and Herro doesn't seem to have much experience in that role.

Right now Herro is probably most comparable to Evan Fournier or Tim Hardaway Jr; Devin Booker or CJ McCollum would be his high end and I think he can still has a shot of getting to that level.

What makes Booker so effective is that he doesn't try to do more than he is capable of. He seems to know his limits and doesn't force up shots or take bad shots. It takes time to learn that. Let's not forget it is Booker's 6th season; Herro has just completed his injury-plagued second season with all the changes that came with the pandemic. Herro really hasn't had a full offseason and probably did not have access to all the usual coaching, trainers, and pickup games that can help lead to big improvements.

Let's see where Herro is in 2 years.

I was really high on Keldon Johnson predraft. Had him right with PJ Washington for our pick. Herro is a nice player don’t get me wrong but if draft was held today i’m still picking those two over him.

[BenoUdrihFTL]

If Lowry would be willing to bet on himself with a 2+1 (team option) I'd be a lot more compelled to favor giving him his $25 per. 3 guaranteed years at that salary is a hard sell tho and I imagine you could count on one Yakuza memeber's hand the teams willing AND able to commit to that, nevermind the select teams Lowry actually wants to play for

[AirP.]

If Lowry would be willing to bet on himself with a 2+1 (team option) I'd be a lot more compelled to favor giving him his $25 per. 3 guaranteed years at that salary is a hard sell tho and I imagine you could count on one hand the teams willing AND able to commit to that, nevermind the select teams Lowry actually wants to play for

I consider the last year of a contract as the ability to move salary in a bigger trade much like Miami may do with Iggy and possibly Dragic. I really dislike the empty the cap and hope, I like FOs to be proactive on getting the type of players they want.

[twix2500]

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I would take Keldon Johnson and Saddiq Bey over Tyler too. Those thinking he’s the next Booker are terribly mistaken. More like JJ Reddick. His 6’3 wingspan is the same as Reddick’s too. Nice long time NBA complimentary piece.

Herro has a lot more skills at his disposal than Reddick ever has had. Herro can handle the ball and can get to the basket and create for himself or others. However, becoming a primary ball-handler/playmaker comes with a huge learning curve and Herro doesn't seem to have much experience in that role.

Right now Herro is probably most comparable to Evan Fournier or Tim Hardaway Jr; Devin Booker or CJ McCollum would be his high end and I think he can still has a shot of getting to that level.

What makes Booker so effective is that he doesn't try to do more than he is capable of. He seems to know his limits and doesn't force up shots or take bad shots. It takes time to learn that. Let's not forget it is Booker's 6th season; Herro has just completed his injury-plagued second season with all the changes that came with the pandemic. Herro really hasn't had a full offseason and probably did not have access to all the usual coaching, trainers, and pickup games that can help lead to big improvements.

Let's see where Herro is in 2 years.

I was really high on Keldon Johnson predraft. Had him right with PJ Washington for our pick. Herro is a nice player don’t get me wrong but if draft was held today i’m still picking those two over him.

I had all three rated about equal.

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[BenoUdrihFTL]

If Lowry would be willing to bet on himself with a 2+1 (team option) I'd be a lot more compelled to favor giving him his $25 per. 3 guaranteed years at that salary is a hard sell tho and I imagine you could count on one hand the teams willing AND able to commit to that, nevermind the select teams Lowry actually wants to play for

I consider the last year of a contract as the ability to move salary in a bigger trade much like Miami may do with Iggy and possibly Dragic. I really dislike the empty the cap and hope, I like FOs to be proactive on getting the type of players they want.

I know it happens, but I'm still not in favor of using that rationale to justify giving that much $ to what will be a 37yo in that 3rd year. There's just so many future variables that have to break right for it to work out that way. Especially in this scenario where we might not even be forced to give Lowry the 3 years guaranteed