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[3ammy3uck3ts]

It doesn't matter who takes the most shots. Bam could take 20 shots, but it would still lead to a loss, just like last time. Based on this year's data, there isn't a real game-changer on this roster. Bam and Herro aren't able to elevate the role players.

Would prefer him getting high reps for development that will come worthwhile in the future when we’re hopefully competing again but the FO is ass so maybe that’ll never happen anyways and it’s a moot point

[DayofMourning]

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[oreon]

Spo was looking for answers, the answer he came up with was to freeze out our best player. Spo to me has always been the best coach in the league but for the first time in starting to wonder if he has it anymore. He flat out can’t coach a good offense, I think that much is very clear

I think he’s burnt out and just may need to step aside and let Quinn take over. Too much dark cloud

You might be right, bring in his top Yes Man. He just doesn’t seem like he has it anymore. He used to get the most out of his teams, now he just seems lost

It's one bad season after a couple of seasons of over achieving in the playoffs. This fire Spo thing has 0 context and makes no sense to me.
This isn't the first time we've had bad season in Spo era. Big 3 era ended pretty sad with an ass whooping by Spurs. The season before we got Butler was miserable. The season after the bubble sucked too. And we rebounded from those season.
Spo hasn't been good this year but primary reason we suck is caused the FO was too slow to recognize this core was done. They are always too slow to recognize when the team needs a change.
Spo should stick around unless he doesn't want to coach. He has earned the right. There are not that many elite coaches. If we were gonna go fire Spo route, you gonna be switching coaches every 2-3 seasons.

I think the players and coaches are mentally exhausted by this season. And the dumb heat culture nonsense doesn't help. You are not contenders accept that, and maybe you can play free with no pressure. I think what needs to happen is a major roster change. I am all for trading Bam and Herro. But if you are not gonna do that, move some pieces around.

[3ammy3uck3ts]

I think he’s burnt out and just may need to step aside and let Quinn take over. Too much dark cloud

You might be right, bring in his top Yes Man. He just doesn’t seem like he has it anymore. He used to get the most out of his teams, now he just seems lost

It's one bad season after a couple of seasons of over achieving in the playoffs. This fire Spo thing has 0 context and makes no sense to me.
This isn't the first time we've had bad season in Spo era. Big 3 era ended pretty sad with an ass whooping by Spurs. The season before we got Butler was miserable. The season after the bubble sucked too. And we rebounded from those season.
Spo hasn't been good this year but primary reason we suck is caused the FO was too slow to recognize this core was done. They are always too slow to recognize when the team needs a change.
Spo should stick around unless he doesn't want to coach. He has earned the right. There are not that many elite coaches. If we were gonna go fire Spo route, you gonna be switching coaches every 2-3 seasons.

I think the players and coaches are mentally exhausted by this season. And the dumb heat culture nonsense doesn't help. You are not contenders accept that, and maybe you can play free with no pressure. I think what needs to happen is a major roster change. I am all for trading Bam and Herro. But if you are not gonna do that, move some pieces around.

We’ve been a mediocre regular season team the entire Jimmy era minus 1 season and now post Jimmy era as well and we have guys playing the wrong roles. . Like I said, he’s been the best coach in the world to me despite those bad seasons but for the first time I’m actually starting to question him

[3ballbomber]

Just came back wtf…..we’re winning lol

I bought pts to Miami +10.5 I do still expect them to lose in the end but not by more than 10pts. If we win still cash.

Damn mate

Lost by a basket

[wade44]

I think he’s burnt out and just may need to step aside and let Quinn take over. Too much dark cloud

You might be right, bring in his top Yes Man. He just doesn’t seem like he has it anymore. He used to get the most out of his teams, now he just seems lost

It's one bad season after a couple of seasons of over achieving in the playoffs. This fire Spo thing has 0 context and makes no sense to me.
This isn't the first time we've had bad season in Spo era. Big 3 era ended pretty sad with an ass whooping by Spurs. The season before we got Butler was miserable. The season after the bubble sucked too. And we rebounded from those season.
Spo hasn't been good this year but primary reason we suck is caused the FO was too slow to recognize this core was done. They are always too slow to recognize when the team needs a change.
Spo should stick around unless he doesn't want to coach. He has earned the right. There are not that many elite coaches. If we were gonna go fire Spo route, you gonna be switching coaches every 2-3 seasons.

I think the players and coaches are mentally exhausted by this season. And the dumb heat culture nonsense doesn't help. You are not contenders accept that, and maybe you can play free with no pressure. I think what needs to happen is a major roster change. I am all for trading Bam and Herro. But if you are not gonna do that, move some pieces around.

Think it’s clear at least one of Bam or Herro have to go. Their games don’t compliment each other relating to winning. If it is Tyler, I think we need to give Bam a fair shake to see if he can be that guy every night for an entire season and if it can lead to any wins

[oreon]

You might be right, bring in his top Yes Man. He just doesn’t seem like he has it anymore. He used to get the most out of his teams, now he just seems lost

It's one bad season after a couple of seasons of over achieving in the playoffs. This fire Spo thing has 0 context and makes no sense to me.
This isn't the first time we've had bad season in Spo era. Big 3 era ended pretty sad with an ass whooping by Spurs. The season before we got Butler was miserable. The season after the bubble sucked too. And we rebounded from those season.
Spo hasn't been good this year but primary reason we suck is caused the FO was too slow to recognize this core was done. They are always too slow to recognize when the team needs a change.
Spo should stick around unless he doesn't want to coach. He has earned the right. There are not that many elite coaches. If we were gonna go fire Spo route, you gonna be switching coaches every 2-3 seasons.

I think the players and coaches are mentally exhausted by this season. And the dumb heat culture nonsense doesn't help. You are not contenders accept that, and maybe you can play free with no pressure. I think what needs to happen is a major roster change. I am all for trading Bam and Herro. But if you are not gonna do that, move some pieces around.

We’ve been a mediocre regular season team the entire Jimmy era minus 1 season and now post Jimmy era as well and we have guys playing the wrong roles. . Like I said, he’s been the best coach in the world to me despite those bad seasons but for the first time I’m actually starting to question him

3 ECF and 2 Finals

[3ammy3uck3ts]

It's one bad season after a couple of seasons of over achieving in the playoffs. This fire Spo thing has 0 context and makes no sense to me.
This isn't the first time we've had bad season in Spo era. Big 3 era ended pretty sad with an ass whooping by Spurs. The season before we got Butler was miserable. The season after the bubble sucked too. And we rebounded from those season.
Spo hasn't been good this year but primary reason we suck is caused the FO was too slow to recognize this core was done. They are always too slow to recognize when the team needs a change.
Spo should stick around unless he doesn't want to coach. He has earned the right. There are not that many elite coaches. If we were gonna go fire Spo route, you gonna be switching coaches every 2-3 seasons.

I think the players and coaches are mentally exhausted by this season. And the dumb heat culture nonsense doesn't help. You are not contenders accept that, and maybe you can play free with no pressure. I think what needs to happen is a major roster change. I am all for trading Bam and Herro. But if you are not gonna do that, move some pieces around.

We’ve been a mediocre regular season team the entire Jimmy era minus 1 season and now post Jimmy era as well and we have guys playing the wrong roles. . Like I said, he’s been the best coach in the world to me despite those bad seasons but for the first time I’m actually starting to question him

3 ECF and 2 Finals

Correct, doesn’t change a single thing I said and actually agrees to it

[MettaWorldPanda]

You might be right, bring in his top Yes Man. He just doesn’t seem like he has it anymore. He used to get the most out of his teams, now he just seems lost

It's one bad season after a couple of seasons of over achieving in the playoffs. This fire Spo thing has 0 context and makes no sense to me.
This isn't the first time we've had bad season in Spo era. Big 3 era ended pretty sad with an ass whooping by Spurs. The season before we got Butler was miserable. The season after the bubble sucked too. And we rebounded from those season.
Spo hasn't been good this year but primary reason we suck is caused the FO was too slow to recognize this core was done. They are always too slow to recognize when the team needs a change.
Spo should stick around unless he doesn't want to coach. He has earned the right. There are not that many elite coaches. If we were gonna go fire Spo route, you gonna be switching coaches every 2-3 seasons.

I think the players and coaches are mentally exhausted by this season. And the dumb heat culture nonsense doesn't help. You are not contenders accept that, and maybe you can play free with no pressure. I think what needs to happen is a major roster change. I am all for trading Bam and Herro. But if you are not gonna do that, move some pieces around.

Think it’s clear one of Bam or Herro have to go. Their games don’t compliment each other relating to winning. If it is Tyler, I think we need to give Bam a fair shake to see if he can be that guy every night for an entire season and if it can lead to any wins. So far he has not convinced that he can be that guy

I think Bam needs to just do what made this team successful during all those finals runs. Relying on him to be a primary scorer is not the recipe for success. We need more scorers on this team plain and simple. We can start by getting another true stretch 4. The loss of Jovic has been crippling. Almost like the final blow to this group.

[oreon]

We’ve been a mediocre regular season team the entire Jimmy era minus 1 season and now post Jimmy era as well and we have guys playing the wrong roles. . Like I said, he’s been the best coach in the world to me despite those bad seasons but for the first time I’m actually starting to question him

3 ECF and 2 Finals

Correct, doesn’t change a single thing I said and actually agrees to it

My point he's done enough to have one bad season. If he's another bad year next year then we can start talking about moving to another role or replacing him. The spotlight should be on Riley on mishandling the Butler situation, the disastrous Rozier trade and lack of a long term plan.

[3ammy3uck3ts]

It's one bad season after a couple of seasons of over achieving in the playoffs. This fire Spo thing has 0 context and makes no sense to me.
This isn't the first time we've had bad season in Spo era. Big 3 era ended pretty sad with an ass whooping by Spurs. The season before we got Butler was miserable. The season after the bubble sucked too. And we rebounded from those season.
Spo hasn't been good this year but primary reason we suck is caused the FO was too slow to recognize this core was done. They are always too slow to recognize when the team needs a change.
Spo should stick around unless he doesn't want to coach. He has earned the right. There are not that many elite coaches. If we were gonna go fire Spo route, you gonna be switching coaches every 2-3 seasons.

I think the players and coaches are mentally exhausted by this season. And the dumb heat culture nonsense doesn't help. You are not contenders accept that, and maybe you can play free with no pressure. I think what needs to happen is a major roster change. I am all for trading Bam and Herro. But if you are not gonna do that, move some pieces around.

Think it’s clear one of Bam or Herro have to go. Their games don’t compliment each other relating to winning. If it is Tyler, I think we need to give Bam a fair shake to see if he can be that guy every night for an entire season and if it can lead to any wins. So far he has not convinced that he can be that guy

I think Bam needs to just do what made this team successful during all those finals runs. Relying on him to be a primary scorer is not the recipe for success. We need more scorers on this team plain and simple. We can start by getting another true stretch 4. The loss of Jovic has been crippling. Almost like the final blow to this group.

Sure if you can get 2 elite offensive players put him in the Chris Bosh role and he’ll take it to another level and we’ll compete for championships but making him defer to several lesser players on this current weak roster is just pure incompetence.

[3ammy3uck3ts]

3 ECF and 2 Finals

Correct, doesn’t change a single thing I said and actually agrees to it

My point he's done enough to have one bad season. If he's another bad year next year then we can start talking about moving to another role or replacing him. The spotlight should be on Riley on mishandling the Butler situation, the disastrous Rozier trade and lack of a long term plan.

Agreed, FO is the most to blame pretty easily

[MettaWorldPanda]

You might be right, bring in his top Yes Man. He just doesn’t seem like he has it anymore. He used to get the most out of his teams, now he just seems lost

It's one bad season after a couple of seasons of over achieving in the playoffs. This fire Spo thing has 0 context and makes no sense to me.
This isn't the first time we've had bad season in Spo era. Big 3 era ended pretty sad with an ass whooping by Spurs. The season before we got Butler was miserable. The season after the bubble sucked too. And we rebounded from those season.
Spo hasn't been good this year but primary reason we suck is caused the FO was too slow to recognize this core was done. They are always too slow to recognize when the team needs a change.
Spo should stick around unless he doesn't want to coach. He has earned the right. There are not that many elite coaches. If we were gonna go fire Spo route, you gonna be switching coaches every 2-3 seasons.

I think the players and coaches are mentally exhausted by this season. And the dumb heat culture nonsense doesn't help. You are not contenders accept that, and maybe you can play free with no pressure. I think what needs to happen is a major roster change. I am all for trading Bam and Herro. But if you are not gonna do that, move some pieces around.

Think it’s clear at least one of Bam or Herro have to go. Their games don’t compliment each other relating to winning. If it is Tyler, I think we need to give Bam a fair shake to see if he can be that guy every night for an entire season and if it can lead to any wins

Trade Tyler to Utah in a package for Markkannen and give Bam a real stretch 4 and upgrade the two guard spot in the draft with a true 2 way talent that doesn’t get hunted on defense.

[3ballbomber]

Line up change deception. Stealth tank in effect. Good looking loss. Don’t lose ya minds people

[SoFlaKingReal]

What a sorry sack of **** franchise

[MettaWorldPanda]

This down year hopefully pays off cause the top 10 in this draft could really give us a much needed difference maker

[HeatFan_NC]

Riles needs to retire. Spo needs to take his place and appoint a new head coach.

Trade Herro, Wiggins, Rozier, and a FRP for Anthony Edwards before the draft

[Beenie]

I think he’s burnt out and just may need to step aside and let Quinn take over. Too much dark cloud

You might be right, bring in his top Yes Man. He just doesn’t seem like he has it anymore. He used to get the most out of his teams, now he just seems lost

It's one bad season after a couple of seasons of over achieving in the playoffs. This fire Spo thing has 0 context and makes no sense to me.
This isn't the first time we've had bad season in Spo era. Big 3 era ended pretty sad with an ass whooping by Spurs. The season before we got Butler was miserable. The season after the bubble sucked too. And we rebounded from those season.
Spo hasn't been good this year but primary reason we suck is caused the FO was too slow to recognize this core was done. They are always too slow to recognize when the team needs a change.
Spo should stick around unless he doesn't want to coach. He has earned the right. There are not that many elite coaches. If we were gonna go fire Spo route, you gonna be switching coaches every 2-3 seasons.

I think the players and coaches are mentally exhausted by this season. And the dumb heat culture nonsense doesn't help. You are not contenders accept that, and maybe you can play free with no pressure. I think what needs to happen is a major roster change. I am all for trading Bam and Herro. But if you are not gonna do that, move some pieces around.

If the team elects to rebuild, which, imo, is the correct strategy, parting ways with Spo isn’t a crazy idea.

He may very well be at the point in his career of not being in tune with the challenges of coaching a young roster.

My ideal vision for the team would be a front office and a coaching regime change with Wade being brought in as the next team president and maybe someone like Juwan Howard taking over as head coach.

[MettaWorldPanda]

You might be right, bring in his top Yes Man. He just doesn’t seem like he has it anymore. He used to get the most out of his teams, now he just seems lost

It's one bad season after a couple of seasons of over achieving in the playoffs. This fire Spo thing has 0 context and makes no sense to me.
This isn't the first time we've had bad season in Spo era. Big 3 era ended pretty sad with an ass whooping by Spurs. The season before we got Butler was miserable. The season after the bubble sucked too. And we rebounded from those season.
Spo hasn't been good this year but primary reason we suck is caused the FO was too slow to recognize this core was done. They are always too slow to recognize when the team needs a change.
Spo should stick around unless he doesn't want to coach. He has earned the right. There are not that many elite coaches. If we were gonna go fire Spo route, you gonna be switching coaches every 2-3 seasons.

I think the players and coaches are mentally exhausted by this season. And the dumb heat culture nonsense doesn't help. You are not contenders accept that, and maybe you can play free with no pressure. I think what needs to happen is a major roster change. I am all for trading Bam and Herro. But if you are not gonna do that, move some pieces around.

If the team elects to rebuild, which, imo, is the correct strategy, parting ways with Spo isn’t a crazy idea.

He may very well be at the point in his career of not being in tune with the challenges of coaching a young roster.

My ideal vision for the team would be a front office and a coaching regime change with Wade being brought in as the next team president and maybe someone like Juwan Howard taking over as head coach.

Next year won’t be a tear down due to the fact that tanking is out of the question with OKC having a free and clear lottery pick from us. A pick they may even end up trading for a superstar pickup.