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Post#2141 » by DefenseWins » Sat Jul 5, 2014 9:22 pm

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DefenseWins wrote:Also ppl made a big deal of Lebron stripping his twitter bio when he removed the heat stuff but on Instagram he still follows the Miami heat and Micky arison, and the obvious heat players including Mario


People said how he removed him from Instagram lol


It's not big deal but ppl said how there is some beef and Lebron removed Mario from social media.... It ain't true.


LeBron follows everyone on the Heat on Instagram and twitter



Alright. I just remember a week ago people saying he removed Mario and stuff cause they had a beef and all, which fueled the whole "Lebron doesn't want Mario back" or something


I never checked on it though lol
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Post#2142 » by rawa13 » Sat Jul 5, 2014 9:23 pm

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rawa13 wrote:I think Lebron would rather not appear in the finals if it resulted in losing. It's a ring or bust for him at this point. Riley's motto used to be "winning or misery" but circumstances and age have mellowed him down to the point where he has learned to "get a grip".

This was supposed to be a dynasty, not 7-game series battles just to reach the finals.

Let's face it - it was a flawed big 3 team, with or without healthy Wade. Riley has always underestimated size.

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but it's the West. So its Cleveland or Miami at this point. We still have time.

4 straight finals
2 championships that 29 other teams didnt get

there will never EVER be a team without flaws. even in baseball that does not have a salary cap. humans makes mistakes, get nervous/flustered/tired

youre assumption that hed rather not make a finals is asinine. at least if you make the finals you have a chance at winning the chip. lebron was here 4 years and had 4 chances. idk how you can top that


I don't know what to make out of generic, philosophical statements such as "there will never EVER be a team without flaws. even in baseball that does not have a salary cap. humans makes mistakes, get nervous/flustered/tired". Do you then sit quiet waiting for a championship to drop in your lap?! I am not talking about flaws, I am talking about serious flaws, which overextend and frustrate Lebron! And it's a shame considering 3 near-max contracts!!

His fault or not, Finals failures are piling up against Lebron and would soon become a monkey on Lebron's back!
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Post#2143 » by Grumpy Heat Fan » Sat Jul 5, 2014 9:24 pm

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You're completely missing the point.


it is YOU who is missing the point. The CIRCUMSTANCES are everything.

If the Miami Heat = the Cavaliers in which we only went to the Finals ONE time, 0 rings in 7 years, then I can't blame Lebron for leaving us. You just can't, since our roster is garbage.


You simply don't understand that there is a DIFFERENCE in the situations.


the problem is.. with our "definite,confirmed,real" roster consisting of Norris Cole basically right now

Lebron is thinking ahead,not back he is asking himself questions like:

"do i want to play with Dwade as he breaks down further"

""do i want to be in Miami if Chris Bosh decides to go for the Money somewhere else"

"can Riley bring in new,fresh,good supporting cast, so far he cant"

"who is gonna be our starting PG and Center(or PF if Bosh stays at C)"

"can Coach Spo learn that "positionless defence" is not doable with me and the whole Big 3 aging"

you see.. its not as if it was without doubt...

and with so much uncertainty, it just matters not that much that we got to the finals 4 times.. and won 2 rings..

Lebron is seriously thinking: "wow it was a huge drag to get to the 4th finals... can we get to 5 with many of the same players who will be even more tired?"

He wants to win the ring next year.. and i cant blame him for being uncertain if we can do that as constructed(with Lebron,Bosh,Wade,Allen,Birdman,Haslem,Cole would need to be back all have huge milage over the last years"


if Lebron committed to Miami, then if Bosh leaves, Riley can simply go get Carmelo anthony with Boshs money.

or any number of things.
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Post#2144 » by HeatNation88 » Sat Jul 5, 2014 9:25 pm

DefenseWins wrote:
MiamiHeatFan6 wrote:
DefenseWins wrote:Also ppl made a big deal of Lebron stripping his twitter bio when he removed the heat stuff but on Instagram he still follows the Miami heat and Micky arison, and the obvious heat players including Mario


People said how he removed him from Instagram lol


It's not big deal but ppl said how there is some beef and Lebron removed Mario from social media.... It ain't true.


LeBron follows everyone on the Heat on Instagram and twitter



Alright. I just remember a week ago people saying he removed Mario and stuff cause they had a beef and all, which fueled the whole "Lebron doesn't want Mario back" or something


I never checked on it though lol



Na the beef was fake... A lot of people think Bron hate Chalmers and vise versa which isn't true their relationship is Big Brother picks on little Brother but always got his little Brother back... LeBron screams at Chalmers for a reason 1. He is an idiot/Dumbass 2. He isn't a bad player 3. Has a lot of potential to become a better player!
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Post#2145 » by DefenseWins » Sat Jul 5, 2014 9:25 pm

Melo is going to NY and it's no secret now and it's too late for Riley to go after him
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Post#2146 » by Heat_Fan_87 » Sat Jul 5, 2014 9:28 pm

[tweet]https://twitter.com/flasportsbuzz/status/485528593087217664[/tweet]
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Post#2147 » by Jaxon » Sat Jul 5, 2014 9:29 pm

i wish this would just end already
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Post#2148 » by keloms » Sat Jul 5, 2014 9:31 pm

If you stop the panic and think about it, it seems pretty clear to me what's going on.

James, Wade, Bosh all want back in, but, we know they want a better team. What they likely did is they all agreed with Pat to give him the first week-10 days to go out there, interview candidates, take the pulse of the market, get some dollar figures on possible options.

With that intel, Pat will then meet back with the Wade/Bosh/James this week and give them a proposal of what he'd like to do and how much money he needs to make it happen. Once they have that info, the 3 will then figure out what they're comfortable with and then Pat will start getting agreements from others.

After they're locked in and the money is allocated, James / Bosh / Wade will then sign and get theirs.
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Post#2149 » by Amorphous Blob » Sat Jul 5, 2014 9:32 pm

keloms wrote:If you stop the panic and think about it, it seems pretty clear to me what's going on.

James, Wade, Bosh all want back in, but, we know they want a better team. What they likely did is they all agreed with Pat to give him the first week-10 days to go out there, interview candidates, take the pulse of the market, get some dollar figures on possible options.

With that intel, Pat will then meet back with the Wade/Bosh/James this week and then give them a proposal of what he'd like to do and how much money he needs to make it happen. Once they have that info, the 3 will then figure out what they're comfortable with and then Pat will start getting agreements from others.

After they're locked in and the money is allocated, James / Bosh / Wade will then sign and get theirs.


Would love for this to be the case.
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Post#2150 » by Sonny Carson » Sat Jul 5, 2014 9:34 pm

Amorphous Blob wrote:I hate free agency in the twitter era.



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Post#2151 » by Eaglenugget » Sat Jul 5, 2014 9:34 pm

keloms wrote:If you stop the panic and think about it, it seems pretty clear to me what's going on.

James, Wade, Bosh all want back in, but, we know they want a better team. What they likely did is they all agreed with Pat to give him the first week-10 days to go out there, interview candidates, take the pulse of the market, get some dollar figures on possible options.

With that intel, Pat will then meet back with the Wade/Bosh/James this week and then give them a proposal of what he'd like to do and how much money he needs to make it happen. Once they have that info, the 3 will then figure out what they're comfortable with and then Pat will start getting agreements from others.

After they're locked in and the money is allocated, James / Bosh / Wade will then sign and get theirs.

If other teams weren't meeting with our targets this would make perfect sense.
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Post#2152 » by Heat_Fan_87 » Sat Jul 5, 2014 9:35 pm

if we could clear up 9mil in space, would you rather have gasol or deng?


fyi last seaosn pau had a PER of 20 and deng had a PER of 16
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Post#2153 » by mawan041 » Sat Jul 5, 2014 9:36 pm

StrengthNHonor wrote:
crazy_me_87 wrote:
StrengthNHonor wrote:
it is YOU who is missing the point. The CIRCUMSTANCES are everything.

If the Miami Heat = the Cavaliers in which we only went to the Finals ONE time, 0 rings in 7 years, then I can't blame Lebron for leaving us. You just can't, since our roster is garbage.


You simply don't understand that there is a DIFFERENCE in the situations.


the problem is.. with our "definite,confirmed,real" roster consisting of Norris Cole basically right now

Lebron is thinking ahead,not back he is asking himself questions like:

"do i want to play with Dwade as he breaks down further"

""do i want to be in Miami if Chris Bosh decides to go for the Money somewhere else"

"can Riley bring in new,fresh,good supporting cast, so far he cant"

"who is gonna be our starting PG and Center(or PF if Bosh stays at C)"

"can Coach Spo learn that "positionless defence" is not doable with me and the whole Big 3 aging"

you see.. its not as if it was without doubt...

and with so much uncertainty, it just matters not that much that we got to the finals 4 times.. and won 2 rings..

Lebron is seriously thinking: "wow it was a huge drag to get to the 4th finals... can we get to 5 with many of the same players who will be even more tired?"

He wants to win the ring next year.. and i cant blame him for being uncertain if we can do that as constructed(with Lebron,Bosh,Wade,Allen,Birdman,Haslem,Cole would need to be back all have huge milage over the last years"


if Lebron committed to Miami, then if Bosh leaves, Riley can simply go get Carmelo anthony with Boshs money.

or any number of things.


Or if Bosh commits to a damn dollar amount with the Heat, then we can have more options as well ?

We could get more money if Bosh commits or says he's leaving.

But of course that is probably unacceptable to you, it's all LeBrons fault.

I seriously do not understand how you are posting just trash. Are you reading what you are posting ? You are coming across as a bitter fan who is afraid that LeBron might leave.

LeBron is the ONLY one of the Big 3 who actually has told the Heat what his amount will be to return. Pat Riley knows exactly what he is getting with LeBron. Bosh and Wade on the other hand have NOT agreed to a dollar amount. How can Pat Riley offer money to Free Agents when he does NOT know what amount those guys want ?

But then again, that is probably also LeBron's fault right ?
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Post#2154 » by Grumpy Heat Fan » Sat Jul 5, 2014 9:36 pm

keloms wrote:If you stop the panic and think about it, it seems pretty clear to me what's going on.

James, Wade, Bosh all want back in, but, we know they want a better team. What they likely did is they all agreed with Pat to give him the first week-10 days to go out there, interview candidates, take the pulse of the market, get some dollar figures on possible options.

With that intel, Pat will then meet back with the Wade/Bosh/James this week and give them a proposal of what he'd like to do and how much money he needs to make it happen. Once they have that info, the 3 will then figure out what they're comfortable with and then Pat will start getting agreements from others.

After they're locked in and the money is allocated, James / Bosh / Wade will then sign and get theirs.


Except Lebron wants the max and has taken meetings with other teams.
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Post#2155 » by HeatNation88 » Sat Jul 5, 2014 9:36 pm

Heat_Fan_87 wrote:if we could clear up 9mil in space, would you rather have gasol or deng?


Deng is younger and athletic and a better defender then Gasol

But gasol has size and could rebound

Whichever the one is cheaper I would take
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Post#2156 » by Sonny Carson » Sat Jul 5, 2014 9:36 pm

Heat_Fan_87 wrote:[tweet]https://twitter.com/flasportsbuzz/status/485528593087217664[/tweet]

More than enough cash for Gasol.
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Post#2157 » by Heat_Fan_87 » Sat Jul 5, 2014 9:36 pm

StrengthNHonor wrote:
keloms wrote:If you stop the panic and think about it, it seems pretty clear to me what's going on.

James, Wade, Bosh all want back in, but, we know they want a better team. What they likely did is they all agreed with Pat to give him the first week-10 days to go out there, interview candidates, take the pulse of the market, get some dollar figures on possible options.

With that intel, Pat will then meet back with the Wade/Bosh/James this week and give them a proposal of what he'd like to do and how much money he needs to make it happen. Once they have that info, the 3 will then figure out what they're comfortable with and then Pat will start getting agreements from others.

After they're locked in and the money is allocated, James / Bosh / Wade will then sign and get theirs.


Except Lebron wants the max and has taken meetings with other teams.

And you are wrong.
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Post#2158 » by rockersdash » Sat Jul 5, 2014 9:37 pm

Heat_Fan_87 wrote:if we could clear up 9mil in space, would you rather have gasol or deng?


Gasol. It's not even close.

He helps our interior presence, rebounding, post playmaking with LBJ and Wade's ghost cuts and allows Bosh to go to his natural position.
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Post#2159 » by MiaFLSurf » Sat Jul 5, 2014 9:38 pm

I'm always negative but I will say this on the positive side:

Bosh ain't leaving.

His wife would destroy him if he leaves Miami. I know this for a fact. He and her are made for Miami.

There's a reason he's on an African Safari next week. And he's out of the country until like July 25.

How's he meeting with teams?

The guy will stay. So will wade.

Lebron...... Eh.


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Post#2160 » by Paz » Sat Jul 5, 2014 9:38 pm

[green] The general board is not annoying at all. The posters always provide great facts and non bias opinions. I'm so happy that there is no constant, agenda based posting, bashing the HEAT because of insane, uncontrollable jealousy. [/green] :nonono:
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