Official Off-Season Trade/Rumor Thread

[GreenHat]

Makes perfect sense. A first round pick last season would not have played at all and it would have cost us a 4 year commitment in salary plus luxury tax. Riley knew that 2014 was the year to stretch the core. Why if a decent name becomes available in 2014 and we can't make it happen because of the salary of our 12-15 man?
Flexibility.

We are way past the luxury tax line, there is no flexibility with a pick or not.

I disagree. The Big 3 can opt out in 2014. What if you have to rebuild? Having a 1st rounder - who is not even part of the rotation - on your books taking up cap room makes no sense. What player that we could have taken in last year's draft at the spot we had would be in our rotation this season or next?

The truth is we do not know what is going to happen in 2014, keeping that flexibility is key.

If we have to rebuild then that first rounder would be part of the rotation.

[BennyGfromFL]

Moultrie as a rookie ended up putting up right around a double-double per 36 and had a PER of 17 while shooting 59% from the field. He would've been on the books for around $1m last year with slight increases this year and the next (1.1 million and 1.15 million). For a team that's not even looking to amnesty Miller's $6.6 million, $1m is nothing. Less than the vet min that we'd pay someone like Juwan, so having him on the books would actually save money. For a luxury tax stricken team, it would be great value, as are most rookie-scale contracts for productive players.

I'm not losing any sleep over it, but would've been a nice young big to have, especially considering Philly has take a nosedive and we likely won't even get a first rounder out of it.

[Heat_Fan_87]

Moultrie as a rookie ended up putting up right around a double-double per 36 and had a PER of 17. He would've been on the books for around $1m last year with slight increases this year and the next. For a team that's not even looking to amnesty Miller's $6.6 million, $1m is nothing. Less than the vet min that we'd pay someone like Juwan. For a luxury tax stricken team, it would be great value, as are most rookie-scale contracts for productive players.

I'm not losing any sleep over it, but would've been a nice young big to have, especially considering Philly has take a nosedive and we likely won't even get a first rounder out of it.

I think moultire would have done the same thing justin miller did last season. Either play in the d league or overseas.

1 mil is something, its also the extra guaranteed years and the tax implications that come with it.

I just hope we can find a good young kid after the draft. Thats where our scouts need to be focussing on, guys that we can bring in for summer league. Someone like a malcom thomas.

[DWadeno3]

I was mainly referring to this season, the year in which he hired a shooting coach. I agree that it went down hill in 09/10 and 10/11, but this year it looked good and was mainly held back by injury issues. It's no secret that in the games Wade looked good physically, his jump shot was there for him too.

Improved I guess, but it still looked very inconsistent to me, and the same bad habits from previous years continued (overuse of the pump fake, fading when he doesn't need to). Also, injury or not, his mechanics on his jumper looked awful for much of the postseason.

Even his free throw shooting was wildly erratic, and that is something you can't really blame on injury.

Other than fading back a little on his pull-up jumper, his mechanics were decent and fading away is not necessarily always bad for a guy his size, even though I agree, he sometimes fades to the side which causes him to miss badly. His feet are set well, he has good balance and his arm stroke is good too. The one complaint I have is that sometimes, despite rising up well, he kicks one leg out and loses a little balance, which is just making it harder to nail the shot.
But again, if you're on a bad knee, you lack lift and then you're gonna change your mechanics to adapt and somehow still make the shot. That usually ends bad and can hurt you in the long run.

As for his free throw shooting, of course does injury play a factor. You're still using your legs to gain lift and arc on your free throw and if you can't get much lift, your shot is gonna be flat.
I will say, however, that Wade, similar to LeBron, has a tendency of changing his free throw technique and even does it during a game. This is where I agree, he needs to find one good way of shooting it and stick with it.

[Tony15]

Welp, stop all the trade stuff with Bosh, he isn't moving right now. Riley wants to keep this core. If we lost, it would have been totally different lol.

I am nervous for July 1st, 2014 if we lose...

Enjoy what we have now.

Yea, if we don't win next season, July 1st, 2014 is going to be real interesting and nerve wracking.
But i am very confident we win again next year. Health is the most important thing.

Next season is house money to me. We've already proven ourselves as a franchise, but a 3-peat would be special and, as you said, health will be a huge key, mainly for Wade. Bosh is going nowhere.

[BennyGfromFL]

Moultrie as a rookie ended up putting up right around a double-double per 36 and had a PER of 17. He would've been on the books for around $1m last year with slight increases this year and the next. For a team that's not even looking to amnesty Miller's $6.6 million, $1m is nothing. Less than the vet min that we'd pay someone like Juwan. For a luxury tax stricken team, it would be great value, as are most rookie-scale contracts for productive players.

I'm not losing any sleep over it, but would've been a nice young big to have, especially considering Philly has take a nosedive and we likely won't even get a first rounder out of it.

I think moultire would have done the same thing justin miller did last season. Either play in the d league or overseas.

1 mil is something, its also the extra guaranteed years and the tax implications that come with it.

I just hope we can find a good young kid after the draft. Thats where our scouts need to be focussing on, guys that we can bring in for summer league. Someone like a malcom thomas.

Well, he definitely wouldn't have played overseas since as a first round pick his contract would've been guaranteed. We'd be saving money and luxury tax over an end of the bench vet min contract those 3 or 4 years and bringing up a young player who ended up showing a lot of promise. Remember, this is the same team that didn't mind throwing money away by guaranteeing the contracts of Da'Sean Butler and Pat Beverley even though they didn't play a minute here.

You can say "no way he would've been in the rotation", but he's proven he's a capable player that'd likely find minutes at some point (in fact, he'd probably be our second or third best big going into next season, depending on Birdman.) You could also say a guy like Drummond wouldn't have found minutes here, but that doesn't change the fact he has value.

It turned out to be a poor trade with Philly's downfall and all. It happens.

[RexBoyWonder]

^ Only problem is that Moultrie isn't good. and doesn't fit here either.

We didnt miss anything.


Oden + Dally or die trying. Go get it Pat.

[WD]

Ethan J. Skolnick ‏@EthanJSkolnick 21s
If the Celtics are building around Rondo, and aren't spending on a high-profile coach, they should look seriously at David Fizdale.

[Flash4thewin]

I wonder how Odom would do with our current squad. It seems he and Wade had good chemistry and Odom off the bench for the min wouldnt hurt. He would give us some size i think.

[WD]

Miami Heat, no picks available

Team Needs: Nothing.

Overview: Seriously. They won the title, have shooters, rebounders, backup point guards and the best player on the planet. They're good.

Candidates: Solomon Hill, Livio Jean-Charles, James Ennis, Colton Iverson
http://www.cbssports.com/nba/blog/eye-o ... l-30-teams

[heat4life]

We are way past the luxury tax line, there is no flexibility with a pick or not.

I disagree. The Big 3 can opt out in 2014. What if you have to rebuild? Having a 1st rounder - who is not even part of the rotation - on your books taking up cap room makes no sense. What player that we could have taken in last year's draft at the spot we had would be in our rotation this season or next?

The truth is we do not know what is going to happen in 2014, keeping that flexibility is key.

If we have to rebuild then that first rounder would be part of the rotation.

Sure, if that was the team's priority and we all know it is not. Keeping LeBron and the core intact to win multiple championships beyond 2014 is the goal, not playing players for the sake of development.

At the spot we had, there was not a player close to ready to contribute a la Chalmers or Norris Cole - who took a whole season btw to become reliable.

[WD]

You may already know but just in case: #Heat star Dwyane Wade is on Jimmy Kimmel tonight (11:30, ABC). @MiamiHerald

[Ratchet_Rio]

Soo any rumors about acquiring a pick tonight

[Biscayne Beast]

Soo any rumors about acquiring a pick tonight

I wish .. but reality is we are heat fans, the draft is like every other day.

[GreenHat]

I disagree. The Big 3 can opt out in 2014. What if you have to rebuild? Having a 1st rounder - who is not even part of the rotation - on your books taking up cap room makes no sense. What player that we could have taken in last year's draft at the spot we had would be in our rotation this season or next?

The truth is we do not know what is going to happen in 2014, keeping that flexibility is key.

If we have to rebuild then that first rounder would be part of the rotation.

Sure, if that was the team's priority and we all know it is not. Keeping LeBron and the core intact to win multiple championships beyond 2014 is the goal, not playing players for the sake of development.

At the spot we had, there was not a player close to ready to contribute a la Chalmers or Norris Cole - who took a whole season btw to become reliable.

You're talking in circles here. You were the one who brought "What if you have to rebuild?" not me.

You're point about players taking longer to develop actually points to drafting players earlier not later. If we need a rotation guy in the future it would be better if he is a third year guy and not a rookie.

Again go back to the original post you quoted:

We are way past the luxury tax line, there is no flexibility with a pick or not.

I was speaking from a win-now position. As long as we are in that mode we are going to be way past the luxury tax without any cap flexibility and one late draft pick wouldn't change that. We will be way over the cap even while the big 3 opt out with the cap holds for Lebron/Wade/Bosh unless we renounce their rights. If you see that happening then we have much bigger problems.

[DC_20]

I will be so pissed if the heat get odom - I don't want those hideous kardashians any where near this team

[DC_20]

Barrier at the draft - that's about as close as we will get

[Buju]

I will be so pissed if the heat get odom - I don't want those hideous kardashians any where near this team

This x 10000000000000000000

[Ratchet_Rio]

Sixers traded Holiday. We need to unload that Philly pick tonight they arent sniffing the playoffs anytime soon

[LoveMyHeat]

Sixers traded Holiday. We need to unload that Philly pick tonight they arent sniffing the playoffs anytime soon

I'm thinking the same, otherwise we're never getting that first rounder.