MIAMI HEAT Offseason Thread 2021 Vol.2

[oreon]

Keldon Johnson and some no name guy from Detroit over Tyler Herro?


Tyler better take this to heart and come back with a vengeance, similar to how Bam did 2 years ago.

I would take Keldon Johnson and Saddiq Bey over Tyler too. Those thinking he’s the next Booker are terribly mistaken. More like JJ Reddick. His 6’3 wingspan is the same as Reddick’s too. Nice long time NBA complimentary piece.

Herro has a lot more skills at his disposal than Reddick ever has had. Herro can handle the ball and can get to the basket and create for himself or others. However, becoming a primary ball-handler/playmaker comes with a huge learning curve and Herro doesn't seem to have much experience in that role.

Right now Herro is probably most comparable to Evan Fournier or Tim Hardaway Jr; Devin Booker or CJ McCollum would be his high end and I think he can still has a shot of getting to that level.

What makes Booker so effective is that he doesn't try to do more than he is capable of. He seems to know his limits and doesn't force up shots or take bad shots. It takes time to learn that. Let's not forget it is Booker's 6th season; Herro has just completed his injury-plagued second season with all the changes that came with the pandemic. Herro really hasn't had a full offseason and probably did not have access to all the usual coaching, trainers, and pickup games that can help lead to big improvements.

Let's see where Herro is in 2 years.

Difference between the two is the ball handling and offensive skill. Booker has the handles to get to his spots on the floor. And he has counters. When he gets to the paint and the defender closes the space, he can fadeaway on the jumper. Herro, once a defender closes the space doesn't really have any counters and that's why he forces bad shots.

Can Herro get to Booker's level, yes. But he needs to work his but off to get more skilled. First he needs to improve his handles. Secondly he needs to add his offensive bags, he should add a fadeaway shot and also add a floater. And thirdly he's a good shooter but he needs to be an elite shooter.

[MettaWorldPanda]

My true gut feeling is Tyler Herro gets traded for the PG we need. Duncan is then resigned and Oladipo will be signed to a bargain deal to be his backup when he gets healthy. Max Strus will get his chance until Oladipo gets healthy. Look for Herro to be attached in a deal with either Dragic or Iguodala or both to make something happen. I think Achuiwa is kept and KZ might also be attached in a deal but he may also come back. The biggest trade chip we have as an attachment to a Dragic and or Iguodala is Herro. No way does it make sense to renounce all our players and work as a cap spaced team with only 23 million to work with. It's a big possibility that Iguodala and Herro which combine for about 19.5 million gets a deal done. You add in Okpala and it gets us to about 21 million in trade equity. Dragic I feel like has a good chance at coming back whether it's the 19.5 million opt in or on a two year deal at 10 mil per using bird rights if they choose not to use his opt in. He's an ideal veteran backup PG when the dust settles and has a great relationship with the organization, Butler, and would hate to see him just let go after everything he's meant to the franchise helping through the post Lebron years. Nunn and Herro are boys so it may make sense to try and work out a deal with them togehter. Especially if we decide to keep Dragic on as backup for a much better rate.

[MettaWorldPanda]

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Future Cavs backcourt mates Herro and Garland

[HeatingUp3]

My true gut feeling is Tyler Herro gets traded for the PG we need. Duncan is then resigned and Oladipo will be signed to a bargain deal to be his backup when he gets healthy. Max Strus will get his chance until Oladipo gets healthy. Look for Herro to be attached in a deal with either Dragic or Iguodala or both to make something happen. I think Achuiwa is kept and KZ might also be attached in a deal but he may also come back. The biggest trade chip we have as an attachment to a Dragic and or Iguodala is Herro. No way does it make sense to renounce all our players and work as a cap spaced team with only 23 million to work with. It's a big possibility that Iguodala and Herro which combine for about 19.5 million gets a deal done. You add in Okpala and it gets us to about 21 million in trade equity. Dragic I feel like has a good chance at coming back whether it's the 19.5 million opt in or on a two year deal at 10 mil per using bird rights if they choose not to use his opt in. He's an ideal veteran backup PG when the dust settles and has a great relationship with the organization, Butler, and would hate to see him just let go after everything he's meant to the franchise helping through the post Lebron years. Nunn and Herro are boys so it may make sense to try and work out a deal with them togehter. Especially if we decide to keep Dragic on as backup for a much better rate.

Also have a feeling Herro played his last game in a Heat uniforms. He is our best asset. Who do you think we gonna end up with Panda?

[Kobewade11]

Its also worth noting that Keldon Johnson is coached by Pop..who btw coaches the Olympic team. They knew who their placeholder players were going to be before even going to Vegas.

[MettaWorldPanda]

My true gut feeling is Tyler Herro gets traded for the PG we need. Duncan is then resigned and Oladipo will be signed to a bargain deal to be his backup when he gets healthy. Max Strus will get his chance until Oladipo gets healthy. Look for Herro to be attached in a deal with either Dragic or Iguodala or both to make something happen. I think Achuiwa is kept and KZ might also be attached in a deal but he may also come back. The biggest trade chip we have as an attachment to a Dragic and or Iguodala is Herro. No way does it make sense to renounce all our players and work as a cap spaced team with only 23 million to work with. It's a big possibility that Iguodala and Herro which combine for about 19.5 million gets a deal done. You add in Okpala and it gets us to about 21 million in trade equity. Dragic I feel like has a good chance at coming back whether it's the 19.5 million opt in or on a two year deal at 10 mil per using bird rights if they choose not to use his opt in. He's an ideal veteran backup PG when the dust settles and has a great relationship with the organization, Butler, and would hate to see him just let go after everything he's meant to the franchise helping through the post Lebron years. Nunn and Herro are boys so it may make sense to try and work out a deal with them togehter. Especially if we decide to keep Dragic on as backup for a much better rate.

Also have a feeling Herro played his last game in a Heat uniforms. He is our best asset. Who do you think we gonna end up with Panda?

Collin Sexton remains the most likely candidate. Kyle Lowry is also an obvious choice but a third team will have to be involved and we’ll need another young player to come here with Lowry if Herro’s involved.

[Wiltside]

I wasn’t that high on PJ Washington, but knowing the way we play with Bam at the 5 and the need for a 4 that can stretch the floor, he’d have probably been the better choice. Hell, he probably was the choice but got taken a pick or two before us.

[DayofMourning]

I'm still cool with Herro. I think he will get better. I mean the kid is 20 years old and just averaged 15 ppg? That's not bad. He's so young. Give him a nother couple years before determining his fate. I'm fine if we hold on to him.

[MettaWorldPanda]

This team needs not one but two PG’s this offseason.

[twix2500]

Just what I was afraid of. Achiuwa and KZ will not get individual develop playing the Olympics. Hopefully he gets that in summer league

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[eddieheatfan]

Just what I was afraid of. Achiuwa and KZ will not get individual develop playing the Olympics. Hopefully he gets that in summer league

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so far gabe vincent has really impressed me with his hot 3 point hand. i see achiwa too raw even for international play .....

[twix2500]

Just what I was afraid of. Achiuwa and KZ will not get individual develop playing the Olympics. Hopefully he gets that in summer league

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so far gabe vincent has really impressed me with his hot 3 point hand. i see achiwa too raw even for international play .....

Vincent just has to make his jumpers to be a quality 3rd string point

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[Kobewade11]

Just what I was afraid of. Achiuwa and KZ will not get individual develop playing the Olympics. Hopefully he gets that in summer league

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Nigeria still has to cut 4 guys. We’ll see if both make their final team.

[twix2500]

Okpala defense is so damn needed for the Heat. He needs to figure himself out offensively

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[eddieheatfan]

Okpala defense is so damn needed for the Heat. He needs to figure himself out offensively

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yeah but i believe he gone

[eddieheatfan]

nigerians are playing with heart and purpose...they are motivated too

[Wiltside]

Any box score for the game available?

[eddieheatfan]

gabe vincent 22 points fluck spo

[Kobewade11]

Difference between real stars and guys who just put up numbers on bad teams on full display.

[eddieheatfan]

Difference between real stars and guys who just put up numbers on bad teams on full display.