Miami Heat Regular Season Thread 21-22 Vol. 1

Post #221 » by **MettaWorldPanda** » Sun Nov 7, 2021 3:19 pm

somerandomdude · Post #222 » by **somerandomdude** » Sun Nov 7, 2021 3:20 pm

Any thoughts on Duncan coming off the bench and starting Max Strus?

Strus isn't the sharpshooter that Duncan is, but Duncan hasn't been a sharpshooter so far this season, and Strus has actually been shooting the ball better.

Besides, Strus brings a lot more to the table if he's not landing shots.

Three reasons it won't happen, though:

1. We're winning games
2. Duncan is getting paid $20mil/yr and it will kill any trade value he has.
3. Max is 2" shorter than Duncan, even though Strus is still a better defender.

With that said, Duncan would probably find his stroke off the bench where there's lesser competition.

Post #223 » by **MettaWorldPanda** » Sun Nov 7, 2021 3:30 pm

somerandomdude wrote:Any thoughts on Duncan coming off the bench and starting Max Strus?

Strus isn't the sharpshooter that Duncan is, but Duncan hasn't been a sharpshooter so far this season, and Strus has actually been shooting the ball better.

Besides, Strus brings a lot more to the table if he's not landing shots.

Three reasons it won't happen, though:

1. We're winning games
2. Duncan is getting paid $20mil/yr and it will kill any trade value he has.
3. Max is 2" shorter than Duncan, even though Strus is still a better defender.

With that said, Duncan would probably find his stroke off the bench where there's lesser competition.

I don't mind this move at all or at least give it a look. It won't happen any time soon though. The height for Strus does not mean anything since he'll be slotting in as a two guard and is already logging SF minutes due to his stout lower core. Grand scheme is Duncan needs to get his damn act together. He'll continue to start but when Strus comes back he'll be losing even more minutes on the floor if he continues to struggle. As it is he does not even play the 4th quarter anymore with Herro logging all of the two guard minutes. Spo even decided to go with Caleb last night when Lowry needed a breather in the 4th. Goes to show how Duncan continues to fall out of favor. If the shot is not falling then his defensive issues become a major problem in crunch time. We won't be able to make any trades with Duncan till first week of March. The trade deadline is March 25th. Even if he continues to struggle I think you will still find a team out there that wants to take a gamble and is in need of shooting. You can look at deals that bring us a veteran expiring contract and a pick.

Post #224 » by **MettaWorldPanda** » Sun Nov 7, 2021 3:54 pm

Been thinking what a Duncan Robinson, KZ Okpala, and Gabe Vincent package could get us. Ricky Rubio would be the ideal backup PG to Kyle Lowry. The trade does a couple of things. Opens us roster spots to sign Caleb and maybe a buyout market player. Gets us out of Duncan's deal so that we can start preparing for Herro's long term deal and Oladipo's contract if he proves worthy. Gets Rubio's bird rights if we decide we want to keep him. The PG position is super critical to success of this team more so then whatever Duncan is giving us.

SF Duncan Robinson
SF KZ Okpala
PG Gabe Vincent

to the Cavs for

PG Ricky Rubio
1st round protected pick

Post #225 » by **BFRESH44** » Sun Nov 7, 2021 4:10 pm

Not worried about Duncan. He’ll come along. Not putting anyone in the trade machine when the team is off to a great start. A Tyler extension doesn’t kick in until after next season. They’ll cross that bridge when they get there.

carnageta · Post #226 » by **carnageta** » Sun Nov 7, 2021 5:11 pm

Butler is 14th in scoring. Herro is 29th. Bam is 35th.

BenoUdrihFTL · Post #227 » by **BenoUdrihFTL** » Sun Nov 7, 2021 5:19 pm

I think DRob will eventually snap out of it but I'd be lying if I said I wasn't concerned about the fact that 9 games is getting closer to a trend than a slump

On the plus side he's still commanding a ton of defensive attention and creating the space that our scorers so desperately need, but at some point defenses will stop respecting his ability to make them pay if he keeps failing to make the shots. If it comes to that then he's absolutely unplayable

al bondiga · Post #228 » by **al bondiga** » Sun Nov 7, 2021 6:45 pm

I don't think that we are even close to when have to start worrying about Duncan he is always been an ok too bad player but incredible shooter, we will desperately need his ass during playoff time, he gets paid because he can go off at any time and everyone knows it... we have to worry about getting bam help inside, spo doesn't learn that a small ball team can only get you so far

Post #229 » by **DayofMourning** » Sun Nov 7, 2021 7:34 pm

Just trade Duncan for Jerami Grant straight up. They both stink this year.

Post #230 » by **QUIZ** » Sun Nov 7, 2021 7:43 pm

MettaWorldPanda wrote:Been thinking what a Duncan Robinson, KZ Okpala, and Gabe Vincent package could get us. Ricky Rubio would be the ideal backup PG to Kyle Lowry. The trade does a couple of things. Opens us roster spots to sign Caleb and maybe a buyout market player. Gets us out of Duncan's deal so that we can start preparing for Herro's long term deal and Oladipo's contract if he proves worthy. Gets Rubio's bird rights if we decide we want to keep him. The PG position is super critical to success of this team more so then whatever Duncan is giving us.

SF Duncan Robinson
SF KZ Okpala
PG Gabe Vincent

to the Cavs for

PG Ricky Rubio
1st round protected pick

Idk if I like that Metta. Long-term our issue is still finding a PF to play next to Bam. If Duncan was going to be traded I'd much rather do it for Harrison Barnes type guy

Kobewade11 · Post #231 » by **Kobewade11** » Sun Nov 7, 2021 7:54 pm

somerandomdude wrote:
marson wrote:I don't see us moving forward with Herro still coming of the bench for us next year. He is too good to be a sixth man.

He's been so good off the bench for us, though. As much as he's earned it, I don't think we get better as a team by moving him to the starting lineup in the distant future. Maybe if Oladipo comes back, has a solid year, and we can re-sign him.

Besides, he plays the entire 2nd and 4th quarter and closes games for us, so he's all but a starter.

Sometimes a guy is just too good to continue playing off the bench. See James Harden in OKC. Herro will eventually be the starting shooting guard for this team, its just a matter of when.

Post #232 » by **DayofMourning** » Mon Nov 8, 2021 12:06 am

Kobewade11 wrote:
somerandomdude wrote:
marson wrote:I don't see us moving forward with Herro still coming of the bench for us next year. He is too good to be a sixth man.

He's been so good off the bench for us, though. As much as he's earned it, I don't think we get better as a team by moving him to the starting lineup in the distant future. Maybe if Oladipo comes back, has a solid year, and we can re-sign him.

Besides, he plays the entire 2nd and 4th quarter and closes games for us, so he's all but a starter.

Sometimes a guy is just too good to continue playing off the bench. See James Harden in OKC. Herro will eventually be the starting shooting guard for this team, its just a matter of when.

It's all about the team in my eyes. I love the individual talent of Herro and what he's doing this season. I love more the weapon he presents when enters the game at the end of the first quarter. He's a bad boy coming in when our starters need a rest. That's extremely valuable to me.

What strategic advantage does Herro present if he becomes a starter? If our team becomes better, then he should be a starter. If we miss his bench scoring then he needs to be 6MOY for us.

Post #233 » by **MettaWorldPanda** » Mon Nov 8, 2021 12:42 am

We need Herro off the bench right now cause we have no backup PG. He’s essentially covering both guard positions and racking up his starters minutes. We are living dangerously with no true backup PG but it’s working right now even with Duncan’s abysmal shooting.

Post #234 » by **MettaWorldPanda** » Mon Nov 8, 2021 12:58 am

Read on Twitter

We might have our vet backup PG right in house. Knight is ultra motivated to make it back to the NBA. Finally could be turning the corner with his health. Spo recruited him to come play for the Skyforce and rebuild his value. He'll be given a contract with us when the time is right.

Hallstar · Post #235 » by **Hallstar** » Mon Nov 8, 2021 1:02 am

Would do the Rubio or especially Grant deal

Post #236 » by **DayofMourning** » Mon Nov 8, 2021 1:17 am

Vincent or BK? EZ decision.

Post #237 » by **MettaWorldPanda** » Mon Nov 8, 2021 1:26 am

DayofMourning wrote:Vincent or BK? EZ decision.

Too EZ Dom. BK looks to be putting it together getting back to pre injury form. Local kid makes for a great story to put him on this roster.

dolphinatik · Post #238 » by **dolphinatik** » Mon Nov 8, 2021 2:13 am

I want to see more explosiveness from BK, getting to the rim, drawing fouls. If he can get his speed back and play faster then maybe. he is only 29 years old. Derrick Rose would have been the perfect get but we missed that one.

Kobewade11 · Post #239 » by **Kobewade11** » Mon Nov 8, 2021 2:16 am

The Naija boyz KZ and Vincent both need to be in Sioux Falls working on their games

Post #240 » by **Wiltside** » Mon Nov 8, 2021 2:43 am

I'd be coo with BK for vet backup PG rotation. Looks like he can stick the 3ball still.

He's always been turnover prone. His injury history gives me some hesitancy, but I'd take him over Vincent that's for sure. I like him as insurance because you know he knows how to play at the NBA level at minimum.