Miami Heat Offseason Thread 7.0: 3ammy vs Cronin, Winner Takes Dame!!

[Daffy]

By the way, the HEAT can unlock their other picks if the pick that BKN would be providing them for Herro is the 2025 pick they got from PHX. Just something to keep in mind. They don't have to go back to OKC to unlock picks if that's the case.

Ooh interesting--can you break that down for us?

I typically forget all of these intricacies as soon as the offseason ends lol

I'm assuming because they we'd have a pick in place of the consecutive years we currently don't.

[Kobewade11]

Bad news for us if Haynes is saying this.

You didn't expect teams to reach out the moment Dame asked out?

No, but I don't expect Haynes to talk about it publicly unless Dame is cool with it.

Lol. You think Haynes needs Dame’s permission to do his job?

[twozeroMM]

These teams really think they will just trade for Dame and force him to play and he'll be a good soldier and just accept it.

The answer is yes, to this question, is he going to be mad, absolutely, is he going to show up to practice on time and play his heart out sit on the bench and cheer for his new team mates in games, also true. He is a professional and not James Harden who got fat, and showed up late to practices.

Bingo. I agree with this 100%. Dame already did his part by calling Miami his only destination and having word that its Miami of bust, but let's be serious if someone else lands him he's going to play for them.

It would be so frustrating if this did end up happening after players like KD and Harden got to choose where they wanted to be traded to.

[HeatingUp3]

I think no other team will want him if he can’t buy in to their situation.
He will traded to us I can feel it.

[greg4012]

By the way, the HEAT can unlock their other picks if the pick that BKN would be providing them for Herro is the 2025 pick they got from PHX. Just something to keep in mind. They don't have to go back to OKC to unlock picks if that's the case.

Ooh interesting--can you break that down for us?

I typically forget all of these intricacies as soon as the offseason ends lol

I'm assuming because they we'd have a pick in place of the consecutive years we currently don't.

Hmm interesting. I was under the impression that the Stepien rule solely applied to the team's own picks--not those acquired from other teams?

[CrossOver]

By the way, the HEAT can unlock their other picks if the pick that BKN would be providing them for Herro is the 2025 pick they got from PHX. Just something to keep in mind. They don't have to go back to OKC to unlock picks if that's the case.

Ooh interesting--can you break that down for us?

I typically forget all of these intricacies as soon as the offseason ends lol

I'm assuming because they we'd have a pick in place of the consecutive years we currently don't.

Correct. As long as you have a pick for alternating seasons you are fine. You just can't go two seasons in a row without having a first round pick to use.

[marson]

The answer is yes, to this question, is he going to be mad, absolutely, is he going to show up to practice on time and play his heart out sit on the bench and cheer for his new team mates in games, also true. He is a professional and not James Harden who got fat, and showed up late to practices.

Bingo. I agree with this 100%. Dame already did his part by calling Miami his only destination and having word that its Miami of bust, but let's be serious if someone else lands him he's going to play for them.

It would be so frustrating if this did end up happening after players like KD and Harden got to choose where they wanted to be traded to.

Still possible. Kawhi and Mitchell are some of examples.

Dame to Heat is still not a sure thing, and I'm preparing myself for it lol

[Hallstar]

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You gotta pay Brooklyn for taking on Herro.
You gotta pay OKC for unlocking that pick.
You gotta pay SA for taking on Nurkic.
You gotta pay me for Lillard.

Y’all shopping at Neiman with a Navarro budget.

There are people here still pretending Herro is some 25 ppg all star.. this guy is just slightly better than Jordan Clarkson.. and as i said on the other thread, the only other eastern playoff team from this past postseason that he would be a starter would be the Knicks. Not a starter in any western postseason team.

Hes a sixth man getting paid like a starter.

Yet this "bum" is supposed to be the central piece in a Dame Lillard trade and wondering what's taking so long? You can't denigrate a player at every opportunity then flip it that he's worth being the only piece worth a damn in a superstar trade? Make it make sense.

[greg4012]

Ooh interesting--can you break that down for us?

I typically forget all of these intricacies as soon as the offseason ends lol

I'm assuming because they we'd have a pick in place of the consecutive years we currently don't.

Correct. As long as you have a pick for alternating seasons you are fine. You just can't go two seasons in a row without having a first round pick to use.

Thank you both. Just learned something new. I thought the Stepien rule required the team to have their own first round picks every other year. Very helpful

[CrossOver]

I'm assuming because they we'd have a pick in place of the consecutive years we currently don't.

Correct. As long as you have a pick for alternating seasons you are fine. You just can't go two seasons in a row without having a first round pick to use.

Thank you both. Just learned something new. I thought the Stepien rule required the team to have their own first round picks every other year. Very helpful

Here's a source that confirms it as well just in case anyone has doubts.

The Stepien rule does allow a team to trade consecutive future first-round picks if the team has acquired a separate first-rounder from another team for either of those years.

https://www.hoopsrumors.com/2022/11/hoops-rumors-glossary-ted-stepien-rule-4.html

[3ammy3uck3ts]

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You gotta pay Brooklyn for taking on Herro.
You gotta pay OKC for unlocking that pick.
You gotta pay SA for taking on Nurkic.
You gotta pay me for Lillard.

Y’all shopping at Neiman with a Navarro budget.

There are people here still pretending Herro is some 25 ppg all star.. this guy is just slightly better than Jordan Clarkson.. and as i said on the other thread, the only other eastern playoff team from this past postseason that he would be a starter would be the Knicks. Not a starter in any western postseason team.

Hes a sixth man getting paid like a starter.

Yet this "bum" is supposed to be the central piece in a Dame Lillard trade and wondering what's taking so long? You can't denigrate a player at every opportunity then flip it that he's worth being the only piece worth a damn in a superstar trade? Make it make sense.

Well the blazers have no use for him and don’t view him as better than any of their guards and now Brooklyn is saying they want picks to take him on. We need you on the phone asap talking to Brooklyn to sell them on the importance of adding Devin Booker 2.0+ to their roster after the success Mikal already had next to Booker

[AirP.]

This Lillard situation is a perfect example of why you don't tank. Outside of normally overpaying its own marginal players, Miami runs a great franchise that anyone who wants to win a championship would want to play for if they can get the same pay as somewhere else. Under this CBA, Miami should strive to be a 3 max, mostly minimum team (developing players and ring chasers).

or,....

with the 1st pick in the 2023 Draft... the Miami Heat select.. Victor Wembanyanmanmnayanamnaya

Detroit tried that.

[CrossOver]

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There you go

[Spacely]

Let’s not forget dame told them to build a contender and they failed to do that. It was mad disrespectful drafting a potential all star point guard when you have an superstar PG right there too and not trading the pick away for some star. Now they wanna be butt hurt because they aren’t doing their job to help dame get a contending team.

[AirP.]

You didn't expect teams to reach out the moment Dame asked out?

No, but I don't expect Haynes to talk about it publicly unless Dame is cool with it.

Lol. You think Haynes needs Dame’s permission to do his job?

Of course not unless he still wants to get exclusives from Lillard.

[MettaWorldPanda]

By the way, the HEAT can unlock their other picks if the pick that BKN would be providing them for Herro is the 2025 pick they got from PHX. Just something to keep in mind. They don't have to go back to OKC to unlock picks if that's the case.

It unlocks 2024 but what else? I don’t think the Heat 2024 is worth much to the Blazers since it will probably be very late. Better off just taking the pick from BK.

[greg4012]

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There you go

1-year rental is very different. I bet Kawhi would have sought out his next point of leverage to control his destination if it wasn't just a 1-year rental. Plus the acquiring team takes on even more risk bc it costs more when the player is under contract for multiple years.

[oreon]

These teams really think they will just trade for Dame and force him to play and he'll be a good soldier and just accept it.

The answer is yes, to this question, is he going to be mad, absolutely, is he going to show up to practice on time and play his heart out sit on the bench and cheer for his new team mates in games, also true. He is a professional and not James Harden who got fat, and showed up late to practices.

I don't think so. He's been careful about wanting to leave Portland and also preserve his image. His agent may be saying that in the background but I am certain if he was traded to another contender he would suit up and play. Dame seems like a guy who cares about professionalism and being viewed such.

[CrossOver]

By the way, the HEAT can unlock their other picks if the pick that BKN would be providing them for Herro is the 2025 pick they got from PHX. Just something to keep in mind. They don't have to go back to OKC to unlock picks if that's the case.

It unlocks 2024 but what else? I don’t think the Heat 2024 is worth much to the Blazers since it will probably be very late. Better off just taking the pick from BK.

The pick goes to Miami and they keep it to unlock 2024/2026/2028/2030

[MettaWorldPanda]

Blazers want picks most likely 2026 and beyond. Any Heat picks or Suns picks in the next few years are essentially early seconds