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2025 Regular Season Thread Vol. 8

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Re: 2025 Regular Season Thread Vol. 8 

Post#221 » by powerball1373 » Sun Feb 16, 2025 2:21 am

3ammy3uck3ts wrote:
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3ammy3uck3ts wrote:refused to make moves to try and get over the top.

I don't agree with this, sometimes the moves you need to make just aren't available, and sometimes the asking price is too high. If it was this easy, then every team ever that was close to winning it all gets to have the same complaint, and that makes no logical sense.

Its not like we had cap space every year and didn't spend it, or teams were bending over to offer us star players and we were declining the offers. And its well known the team did what it could to go after players like Durant/Giannis, just could not seal the deal.

Who is the player or offer we didn't get that was on the table and turned down? At best you can argue Damian Lillard, and there's a lot of nuance to that. First off we clearly tried. Second, his agent sabotaged everything by specifying only Miami which made the league step in and strongly encourage Portland to send him elsewhere. Third, Portland's GM had the same thought process and did not want to deal with Miami for that reason. Fourth, our best potential package is arguably equivalent or outplaying what we would have gotten from Lillard this season, with Herro arguably matching Lillard's production, Niko at least playing at the level of a rotation player, and the draft pick turning into Ware.

So all you're left with is, "but what about last season", to which I say, what about last season? Lillard was underwhelming last year and declined in just about every category (his bounce back this season is impressive, but only puts him roughly on par to what Herro is doing for us), and if he had joined the team you still have Jimmy who missed the entire playoffs. I guess you can try to make the argument the entire vibe is different and that squad wins a chip, but I'm not buying it.

But I also think personally you're a little more impatient to see something happen because you're irrationally invested in Bam, and freaking out about the possibility some of his prime is wasted. To which I'll remind you, Wade lost 3 years of his prime to injury/waiting around for flexibility, and we got 2 championships and 4 finals appearances out of it.


We can agree to disagree. It has literally nothing to do with Bam and everything to do with Jimmy’s age.

Dame is WAY better than Herro still to this day by the way


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Re: 2025 Regular Season Thread Vol. 8 

Post#222 » by marson » Sun Feb 16, 2025 2:22 am

powerball1373 wrote:
3ammy3uck3ts wrote:
Tim_Hardawayy wrote:I don't agree with this, sometimes the moves you need to make just aren't available, and sometimes the asking price is too high. If it was this easy, then every team ever that was close to winning it all gets to have the same complaint, and that makes no logical sense.

Its not like we had cap space every year and didn't spend it, or teams were bending over to offer us star players and we were declining the offers. And its well known the team did what it could to go after players like Durant/Giannis, just could not seal the deal.

Who is the player or offer we didn't get that was on the table and turned down? At best you can argue Damian Lillard, and there's a lot of nuance to that. First off we clearly tried. Second, his agent sabotaged everything by specifying only Miami which made the league step in and strongly encourage Portland to send him elsewhere. Third, Portland's GM had the same thought process and did not want to deal with Miami for that reason. Fourth, our best potential package is arguably equivalent or outplaying what we would have gotten from Lillard this season, with Herro arguably matching Lillard's production, Niko at least playing at the level of a rotation player, and the draft pick turning into Ware.

So all you're left with is, "but what about last season", to which I say, what about last season? Lillard was underwhelming last year and declined in just about every category (his bounce back this season is impressive, but only puts him roughly on par to what Herro is doing for us), and if he had joined the team you still have Jimmy who missed the entire playoffs. I guess you can try to make the argument the entire vibe is different and that squad wins a chip, but I'm not buying it.

But I also think personally you're a little more impatient to see something happen because you're irrationally invested in Bam, and freaking out about the possibility some of his prime is wasted. To which I'll remind you, Wade lost 3 years of his prime to injury/waiting around for flexibility, and we got 2 championships and 4 finals appearances out of it.


We can agree to disagree. It has literally nothing to do with Bam and everything to do with Jimmy’s age.

Dame is WAY better than Herro still to this day by the way


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Post#223 » by MartyConlonJr » Sun Feb 16, 2025 2:22 am

Ah man I thought that was going to be some ominous metaphor for the Heat and Herro not doing enough re: Dame. Glad he snuck through. Maybe it can be the opposite and be the rite of passage for Herro :)

Or I'm thinking too much about an inconsequential 3 point comp
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Post#224 » by 3ammy3uck3ts » Sun Feb 16, 2025 2:24 am

powerball1373 wrote:
3ammy3uck3ts wrote:
Tim_Hardawayy wrote:I don't agree with this, sometimes the moves you need to make just aren't available, and sometimes the asking price is too high. If it was this easy, then every team ever that was close to winning it all gets to have the same complaint, and that makes no logical sense.

Its not like we had cap space every year and didn't spend it, or teams were bending over to offer us star players and we were declining the offers. And its well known the team did what it could to go after players like Durant/Giannis, just could not seal the deal.

Who is the player or offer we didn't get that was on the table and turned down? At best you can argue Damian Lillard, and there's a lot of nuance to that. First off we clearly tried. Second, his agent sabotaged everything by specifying only Miami which made the league step in and strongly encourage Portland to send him elsewhere. Third, Portland's GM had the same thought process and did not want to deal with Miami for that reason. Fourth, our best potential package is arguably equivalent or outplaying what we would have gotten from Lillard this season, with Herro arguably matching Lillard's production, Niko at least playing at the level of a rotation player, and the draft pick turning into Ware.

So all you're left with is, "but what about last season", to which I say, what about last season? Lillard was underwhelming last year and declined in just about every category (his bounce back this season is impressive, but only puts him roughly on par to what Herro is doing for us), and if he had joined the team you still have Jimmy who missed the entire playoffs. I guess you can try to make the argument the entire vibe is different and that squad wins a chip, but I'm not buying it.

But I also think personally you're a little more impatient to see something happen because you're irrationally invested in Bam, and freaking out about the possibility some of his prime is wasted. To which I'll remind you, Wade lost 3 years of his prime to injury/waiting around for flexibility, and we got 2 championships and 4 finals appearances out of it.


We can agree to disagree. It has literally nothing to do with Bam and everything to do with Jimmy’s age.

Dame is WAY better than Herro still to this day by the way


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Maybe he’ll go back to back like Dame
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Post#225 » by Heat3 » Sun Feb 16, 2025 2:28 am

Good showing on round 2.
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Post#226 » by DayofMourning » Sun Feb 16, 2025 2:28 am

Hope it holds up!
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Post#227 » by powerball1373 » Sun Feb 16, 2025 2:28 am

Aight Herro that was a solid round... Coulda been better but we'll take 24. Feels like this is Buddy's to lose tho.
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Post#228 » by DayofMourning » Sun Feb 16, 2025 2:29 am

Garland looks worried.
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Post#229 » by Heat3 » Sun Feb 16, 2025 2:30 am

Succumbed to the pressure Herro put on him.
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Post#230 » by DayofMourning » Sun Feb 16, 2025 2:30 am

One more body for Herro.
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Post#231 » by Heat3 » Sun Feb 16, 2025 2:31 am

These rebounders going on the court as the event starts is distracting.
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Post#232 » by DayofMourning » Sun Feb 16, 2025 2:31 am

Wow.
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Post#233 » by marson » Sun Feb 16, 2025 2:32 am

3ammy's 9/11
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Post#234 » by DayofMourning » Sun Feb 16, 2025 2:32 am

HERRO!!!
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Post#235 » by Heat3 » Sun Feb 16, 2025 2:32 am

Herro Herro Herro Herro!
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Post#236 » by Michael Doleac » Sun Feb 16, 2025 2:32 am

CHAMPIONSHIP!!!
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Post#237 » by DayofMourning » Sun Feb 16, 2025 2:32 am

Herro going back to back.
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Post#238 » by MartianTimeSlip » Sun Feb 16, 2025 2:33 am

Congrats Tyler.
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Post#239 » by 3ammy3uck3ts » Sun Feb 16, 2025 2:33 am

He joins Heat legends Jason Kapono and James Jones!!! Now we need him to remember how to shoot when the season starts back up

I’ll take the cash on the +750 odds by the way!
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Post#240 » by Kobewade11 » Sun Feb 16, 2025 2:33 am

Hell yea Ty

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