Heat at Bulls 4/9 @ 8 PM ET

[Daffy]

We are 21st in rebounding differential. Maybe even lower after tonight.

We have to have mobile bigs out there. We cant concede the advantage every night.

Thats an offseason problem to address.

We are playing 2 bigs. Ware just needs to get physically stronger and muscle guys out for rebounds. Put him on that Giannis program

Ware will bulk up and get stronger. Thats the least of my worries. We saw it with Whiteside. We saw it with Niko. Miami does a good job of getting guys bigger. Heck even Herro got bulked up for his frame since entering the league.

[DayofMourning]

The thought of adding a top 5 scorer the league has ever seen who would be the the most pure bucket getter to ever wear a Heat jersey has some fans disgusted and it’s so wild to me.

Ware/Naz
Bam/Fleming
KD/Keshad
Herro/Larsson
Davion/Fears

Stay tuned.

Man I’ve been wanting naz Reid for agessssss

We getting him this offseason HDU.....

Discounted!

[oreon]

Still crazy what herro pulled off there. Might be the dumbest play ive seen all season. And Heat fans want to max and build around him? Zach lavine is a cautionary take that Riley needs to pay heed to.

You cant win with low iq 1 way players.

It was a dumb decision. But we would have lost game anways. This was a team loss, can't put it solely on Herro. Despite his ups and downs he's one of the few that gets a passing grade for the season. He had a really good season. Would have a great season if not for the 6 weeks where his offense struggled.
We can agree that we don't want to pay him the 50 mil max. But lets be fair. He is not a loosing player. He's just not a no 1 option or a 50 mil player.

It would have been a 3 pt lead with a minute left.

I do think he's a losing player, at least right now he is. It's not talent, it's the iq. You win by limiting him and playing to his strengths. He's simply a gunner. Bad teams overpay these types of player. And none of these types are ever a winning player as a major piece.

Bam is a winning player. Ware has the makings of a winning player. Wiggins has already proven it. Jovic might be as well, but need to see more.

Others (big minute contributors), im not sure about in a 16 game season in the playoffs.

This year he has been efficient. He has the best true shooting % out of our top scorers. He had a good year. But some here don't want to acknowledge that. He's been good and he's a big reason why they have won some games. If I am looking at players on why this team had a bad record, I am not starting with Herro. He played well enough. Had other players stepped up maybe their record is better.
But trying to pin this year's loosing on Herro is disingenuous. He isn't the problem this season.

You can say he needs to prove if in the playoffs. But you can't blame him for this season. He's one of the few brightspots

[Flash4thewin]

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Just like Butler helped glue the Warriors together i can see Durant having that same effect with us. Sometimes all it takes is just one dynamic player to bring it all together.

But why hasn't been the glue for his last 2 teams.
33-29 this season is horrible for a top 10 player.
Any neutral analyst would his stints with Nets or Suns failures.
His last truly great year was the Nets runs where they got eliminated by Bucks. Since then his record is spotty. His teams just havent been elite and eventually end up collapsing. And fans here are quick to absolve him of any blame. The suns are awful and he was playing. He gets a lion share of the blame and next up is Booker. When you are all nba guy you gotta do better than 53 % win which what they were with him on the roster,

I am not saying he's a bad player. He's just not MVP top 10 level. That's the level of player Miami needs to drag this team past the 2nd round. Going after KD at his age is just pointless. With this roster, the ceiling is 2nd round and each year he will get worse

Nets without covid interference, he has a ring. Covid just messed that team up.
The Sun, it all depends on how much of a factor KD was in getting Beal. Honestly it feels like it was mgt that bleeped things up.

[3ammy3uck3ts]

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Just like Butler helped glue the Warriors together i can see Durant having that same effect with us. Sometimes all it takes is just one dynamic player to bring it all together.

But why hasn't been the glue for his last 2 teams.
33-29 this season is horrible for a top 10 player.
Any neutral analyst would his stints with Nets or Suns failures.
His last truly great year was the Nets runs where they got eliminated by Bucks. Since then his record is spotty. His teams just havent been elite and eventually end up collapsing. And fans here are quick to absolve him of any blame. The suns are awful and he was playing. He gets a lion share of the blame and next up is Booker. When you are all nba guy you gotta do better than 53 % win which what they were with him on the roster,

I am not saying he's a bad player. He's just not MVP top 10 level. That's the level of player Miami needs to drag this team past the 2nd round. Going after KD at his age is just pointless. With this roster, the ceiling is 2nd round and each year he will get worse

Brother those nets teams failed because harden injuries and woke Kyrie getting damn near banned from the league. The bucks only won because injury and if KD was 1 shoe size smaller he single handedly beats them.

KD and Booker are like 15-3 when they play without Beal this year and this season has been full of negativity surrounding them trying to get rid of Beal all year. You can’t ignore context

[3ammy3uck3ts]

It was a dumb decision. But we would have lost game anways. This was a team loss, can't put it solely on Herro. Despite his ups and downs he's one of the few that gets a passing grade for the season. He had a really good season. Would have a great season if not for the 6 weeks where his offense struggled.
We can agree that we don't want to pay him the 50 mil max. But lets be fair. He is not a loosing player. He's just not a no 1 option or a 50 mil player.

It would have been a 3 pt lead with a minute left.

I do think he's a losing player, at least right now he is. It's not talent, it's the iq. You win by limiting him and playing to his strengths. He's simply a gunner. Bad teams overpay these types of player. And none of these types are ever a winning player as a major piece.

Bam is a winning player. Ware has the makings of a winning player. Wiggins has already proven it. Jovic might be as well, but need to see more.

Others (big minute contributors), im not sure about in a 16 game season in the playoffs.

This year he has been efficient. He has the best true shooting % out of our top scorers. He had a good year. But some here don't want to acknowledge that. He's been good and he's a big reason why they have won some games. If I am looking at players on why this team had a bad record, I am not starting with Herro. He played well enough. Had other players stepped up maybe their record is better.
But trying to pin this year's loosing on Herro is disingenuous. He isn't the problem this season.

You can say he needs to prove if in the playoffs. But you can't blame him for this season. He's one of the few brightspots

I’m not in on this argument but you cant say this about Herro and then try to drag KD who’s been a much better player than Tyler this year

[3ammy3uck3ts]

Thats an offseason problem to address.

We are playing 2 bigs. Ware just needs to get physically stronger and muscle guys out for rebounds. Put him on that Giannis program

Ware will bulk up and get stronger. Thats the least of my worries. We saw it with Whiteside. We saw it with Niko. Miami does a good job of getting guys bigger. Heck even Herro got bulked up for his frame since entering the league.

Now we need them to bulk down Bam. He needs to lose 10-15 pounds now. His lift looks off, could just be the injuries he’s playing through

[SerialChiller]

Was there any reason why we didn't put Bam on Giddy?

Spo didn't want to play Ware much in the 2nd half and so that left Bam as the only big out there while we were dealing with Vuc. It's unfortunate we all just had to watch Giddy go off smh...

[3ammy3uck3ts]

Don’t get on Twitter they’re going at Tyler nationally

[DayofMourning]

Was there any reason why we didn't put Bam on Giddy?

Spo didn't want to play Ware much in the 2nd half and so that left Bam as the only big out there while we were dealing with Vuc. It's unfortunate we all just had to watch Giddy go off smh...

I watched the gamecast. Didnt have the stomach to watch Giddey play with his food.

[Daffy]

We are playing 2 bigs. Ware just needs to get physically stronger and muscle guys out for rebounds. Put him on that Giannis program

Ware will bulk up and get stronger. Thats the least of my worries. We saw it with Whiteside. We saw it with Niko. Miami does a good job of getting guys bigger. Heck even Herro got bulked up for his frame since entering the league.

Now we need them to bulk down Bam. He needs to lose 10-15 pounds now. His lift looks off, could just be the injuries he’s playing through

Bam will be fine. He's been on a tear recently. Give him a full off season and we should see him continue this pace he's been on. Add a legit scorer and another big and we're cooking.

[oreon]

It would have been a 3 pt lead with a minute left.

I do think he's a losing player, at least right now he is. It's not talent, it's the iq. You win by limiting him and playing to his strengths. He's simply a gunner. Bad teams overpay these types of player. And none of these types are ever a winning player as a major piece.

Bam is a winning player. Ware has the makings of a winning player. Wiggins has already proven it. Jovic might be as well, but need to see more.

Others (big minute contributors), im not sure about in a 16 game season in the playoffs.

This year he has been efficient. He has the best true shooting % out of our top scorers. He had a good year. But some here don't want to acknowledge that. He's been good and he's a big reason why they have won some games. If I am looking at players on why this team had a bad record, I am not starting with Herro. He played well enough. Had other players stepped up maybe their record is better.
But trying to pin this year's loosing on Herro is disingenuous. He isn't the problem this season.

You can say he needs to prove if in the playoffs. But you can't blame him for this season. He's one of the few brightspots

I’m not in on this argument but you cant say this about Herro and then try to drag KD who’s been a much better player than Tyler this year

What does Herro have to do with KD ?
They are not related.

KD is a different argument. Do you give up your assets for a 36 year old KD who is no longer top 10 for a 2 year run. When your current team is nowhere near contention. And recent evidence from last 3 seasons has shown KD hasn't been able to elevate a crappy team to being elite.

The argument for KD is where he is, where the team is and the timeline. It just doesn't work with this version of KD for this team. It would have worked with the KD from 4 seasons ago. It would have worked if you still had Butler. But this team is so far from contending.

You need to save your assets to go after a younger stars, that gives you TIME to improve the roster. You get KD, you need to win that season.

[Daffy]

We just need Portland and Phoenix dubs and it's a perfect night.

[Dmcdani6]

Question: why Herro take that dumbass shot? Goofy to me

[Daffy]

This year he has been efficient. He has the best true shooting % out of our top scorers. He had a good year. But some here don't want to acknowledge that. He's been good and he's a big reason why they have won some games. If I am looking at players on why this team had a bad record, I am not starting with Herro. He played well enough. Had other players stepped up maybe their record is better.
But trying to pin this year's loosing on Herro is disingenuous. He isn't the problem this season.

You can say he needs to prove if in the playoffs. But you can't blame him for this season. He's one of the few brightspots

I’m not in on this argument but you cant say this about Herro and then try to drag KD who’s been a much better player than Tyler this year

What does Herro have to do with KD ?
They are not related.

KD is a different argument. Do you give up your assets for a 36 year old KD who is no longer top 10 for a 2 year run. When your current team is nowhere near contention. And recent evidence from last 3 seasons has shown KD hasn't been able to elevate a crappy team to being elite.

The argument for KD is where he is, where the team is and the timeline. It just doesn't work with this version of KD for this team. It would have worked with the KD from 4 seasons ago. It would have worked if you still had Butler. But this team is so far from contending.

You need to save your assets to go after a younger stars, that gives you TIME to improve the roster. You get KD, you need to win that season.

Getting KD doesn't stop us from getting another piece. I don't understand why everyone thinks it's going to take a haul to acquire KD.

[DayofMourning]

We just need Portland and Phoenix dubs and it's a perfect night.

And a Warriors loss as the cherry.

[3ammy3uck3ts]

This year he has been efficient. He has the best true shooting % out of our top scorers. He had a good year. But some here don't want to acknowledge that. He's been good and he's a big reason why they have won some games. If I am looking at players on why this team had a bad record, I am not starting with Herro. He played well enough. Had other players stepped up maybe their record is better.
But trying to pin this year's loosing on Herro is disingenuous. He isn't the problem this season.

You can say he needs to prove if in the playoffs. But you can't blame him for this season. He's one of the few brightspots

I’m not in on this argument but you cant say this about Herro and then try to drag KD who’s been a much better player than Tyler this year

What does Herro have to do with KD ?
They are not related.

KD is a different argument. Do you give up your assets for a 36 year old KD who is no longer top 10 for a 2 year run. When your current team is nowhere near contention. And recent evidence from last 3 seasons has shown KD hasn't been able to elevate a crappy team to being elite.

The argument for KD is where he is, where the team is and the timeline. It just doesn't work with this version of KD for this team. It would have worked with the KD from 4 seasons ago. It would have worked if you still had Butler. But this team is so far from contending.

You need to save your assets to go after a younger stars, that gives you TIME to improve the roster. You get KD, you need to win that season.

I brought Tyler up because you’re contradicting yourself in your arguments right now.

What 10 players are without a doubt better than KD right now?

[oreon]

I’m not in on this argument but you cant say this about Herro and then try to drag KD who’s been a much better player than Tyler this year

What does Herro have to do with KD ?
They are not related.

KD is a different argument. Do you give up your assets for a 36 year old KD who is no longer top 10 for a 2 year run. When your current team is nowhere near contention. And recent evidence from last 3 seasons has shown KD hasn't been able to elevate a crappy team to being elite.

The argument for KD is where he is, where the team is and the timeline. It just doesn't work with this version of KD for this team. It would have worked with the KD from 4 seasons ago. It would have worked if you still had Butler. But this team is so far from contending.

You need to save your assets to go after a younger stars, that gives you TIME to improve the roster. You get KD, you need to win that season.

Getting KD doesn't stop us from getting another piece. I don't understand why everyone thinks it's going to take a haul to acquire KD.

So what are you gonna offer. The GSW pick + Jamie who is not an asset + Jovic who is hurt a lot + Wiggins. Why would PHX agree to that. Portland didn't. It won't cost a haul but it won't be for pennies like it was for Butler. And what do you have to left to trade afterwards ? And for whom ?

Your ideal path of getting KD + another star just isn't there. We don't have the assets for that

[DayofMourning]

Jaime/Jovic, 2 1sts.

KD haul.

[3ammy3uck3ts]

Jaime/Jovic, 2 1sts.

KD haul.

2 1sts Wiggins or Herro available after that for someone else if need be. We have ammo now when we miss the playoffs