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2025 Offseason Season Thread Vol. 2

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Re: 2025 Offseason Season Thread Vol. 2 

Post#221 » by twix2500 » Sun Jun 15, 2025 5:11 pm

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Yup one bad apple spoils the bunch. KD’s price likely stupidly goes up for no apparent reason


Bane is 26, locked up for four more years, and teams like Orlando have to pay a premium.

Durant is 37 and on an expiring deal.

Magic are making an aggressive move to compete in a weak east and be relevant while Banchero isn't making max as he soon will be.

Suns are effed and at this point just want to have a semi competitive team around booker and get out of 2nd apron cap hell. Spurs rockets aren't gonna overpay for a player not on their timeline what so ever. Wolves make sense but sending Jaden mcdaniels doesnt make sense. And they cant include naz or randle since they haven't even opted in to their player options yet and who knows if they will. That leaves miami and raptors. Masai has done non stop crazy trade shiet ever since winning so maybe he does it one more time before losing durant for nothing next year but I still think miami makes the most sense. Suns holding out for ware or a way to get claxton wiggins and being under apron.


I get that but Phoenix looks at this Bane deal and thinks they can get an extra pick or two despite that, just the stupidly of value of picks in the league
This is why Timberwolves, Suns and Bucks are in the bad position they are in now. Throwing away draft picks.

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Re: 2025 Offseason Season Thread Vol. 2 

Post#222 » by Kobewade11 » Sun Jun 15, 2025 5:13 pm

Every trade doesnt set the market. Gobert going for what he did wasnt a market setting trade, nor is Bane to Orlando. I saw Adam’s fat ass talking about getting 5 firsts for Herro, ok from who :lol:
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Re: 2025 Offseason Season Thread Vol. 2 

Post#223 » by 3ammy3uck3ts » Sun Jun 15, 2025 5:16 pm

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MettaWorldPanda wrote:Everyone thinks you can just snap your fingers and trade Tyler. Bane is clearly valued much higher as a 2 way player. Tyler is here to stay for the foreseeable future

Desmond Bane is a way better player than Herro and it’s not even close.. like come on, no GM in the league thinks those two players are in the same tier, except for Pat Riley

Two way player Desmond Bane....hahahahaha,

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Wait are you acting like Bane isn’t a good defender and that saying so is such a wild claim that is only stupid enough to be found on RealGM? Come on man, you’re better than that. I realize vertical is knocking your boy and while you may disagree on Bane vs Herro you don’t have to blatantly lie on the dude
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Re: 2025 Offseason Season Thread Vol. 2 

Post#224 » by twix2500 » Sun Jun 15, 2025 5:16 pm

Kobewade11 wrote:Every trade doesnt set the market. Gobert going for what he did wasnt a market setting trade, nor is Bane to Orlando. I saw Adam’s fat ass talking about getting 5 firsts for Herro, ok from who :lol:


:lol: Its not more teams are suddenly willing to do it, but teams willing to trade players gonna be more stubborn hoping to find an idiot. I guess we are about to see 400 2nd round picks Quentin Grimes
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Re: 2025 Offseason Season Thread Vol. 2 

Post#225 » by greg4012 » Sun Jun 15, 2025 5:16 pm

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jbsays wrote:KD, Bam, and Ware doesn't really make sense for a front court... does it?


Why not? We'd actually have amazing size for a change...I like it. We were already playing Bam and Ware together some, Ware will be another year older so hopefully a bit better and stronger. And you add KDs elite shooting and scoring to that, what doesn't make sense? But knowing Spo Ware would probably come off the bench or barely play with Bam anyways... :banghead:


Who's guarding the wings on other teams like Tatum, Jalen Williams, Kawhi, etc? Granted I haven't seen much of Suns last couple of years. Is KD still a decent defender at SF or would Bam have to guard them?


Why would Miami not want Bam doing what he does at best in league level?

Ware allows Bam to be more fully deployed on matchup basis rather than exclusively having to bear the brunt of covering more court than anyone in nba (which will still be another defensive deployment when called for).

Durant’s length helps a lot with that too.
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Re: 2025 Offseason Season Thread Vol. 2 

Post#226 » by 3ammy3uck3ts » Sun Jun 15, 2025 5:17 pm

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MettaWorldPanda wrote:Need to get this KD trade done already


The price just went up thanks to the Magic lol


Nah I highly doubt it, there has to be a robust market for KD for that to he the case. Outside of Miami it seems that teams are hesitant to give up much for him as it is, they’re not going to come out of the pocket even more now.
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Re: 2025 Offseason Season Thread Vol. 2 

Post#227 » by Lennyzinho » Sun Jun 15, 2025 5:20 pm

Johnny Fontane wrote:
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Yup one bad apple spoils the bunch. KD’s price likely stupidly goes up for no apparent reason


Bane is 26, locked up for four more years, and teams like Orlando have to pay a premium.

Durant is 37 and on an expiring deal.

Magic are making an aggressive move to compete in a weak east and be relevant while Banchero isn't making max as he soon will be.

Suns are effed and at this point just want to have a semi competitive team around booker and get out of 2nd apron cap hell. Spurs rockets aren't gonna overpay for a player not on their timeline what so ever. Wolves make sense but sending Jaden mcdaniels doesnt make sense. And they cant include naz or randle since they haven't even opted in to their player options yet and who knows if they will. That leaves miami and raptors. Masai has done non stop crazy trade shiet ever since winning so maybe he does it one more time before losing durant for nothing next year but I still think miami makes the most sense. Suns holding out for ware or a way to get claxton wiggins and being under apron.


I get that but Phoenix looks at this Bane deal and thinks they can get an extra pick or two despite that, just the stupidly of value of picks in the league


Suns are in a lose lose. They effed up years ago by trading for Beal and giving up a ton for Durant and dismantling a solid young core with mikal cam ayton next to book.

So if anything, this will probably draw out tbe process. Cuz the fanbase will be pissed. But what are they gonna do? Keep Durant when he knows they almost traded him last year and pay 500m in payroll? They're in a tight spot. They're mad cuz whatever they get for durant will now just look even worse but they have no choice.
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Re: 2025 Offseason Season Thread Vol. 2 

Post#228 » by 3ammy3uck3ts » Sun Jun 15, 2025 5:20 pm

Summer in the NBA before it even technically being the offseason. This stuff is fun, let’s hope ol Patty doesn’t ruin Father’s Day
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Re: 2025 Offseason Season Thread Vol. 2 

Post#229 » by lastb1ckman » Sun Jun 15, 2025 5:20 pm

Whats with all the dumb trades these days? 4 unprotected picks for Desmond bane?! Come on Magic
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Re: 2025 Offseason Season Thread Vol. 2 

Post#230 » by 3ammy3uck3ts » Sun Jun 15, 2025 5:22 pm

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Re: 2025 Offseason Season Thread Vol. 2 

Post#231 » by twix2500 » Sun Jun 15, 2025 5:23 pm

Lennyzinho wrote:
Johnny Fontane wrote:
Lennyzinho wrote:
Bane is 26, locked up for four more years, and teams like Orlando have to pay a premium.

Durant is 37 and on an expiring deal.

Magic are making an aggressive move to compete in a weak east and be relevant while Banchero isn't making max as he soon will be.

Suns are effed and at this point just want to have a semi competitive team around booker and get out of 2nd apron cap hell. Spurs rockets aren't gonna overpay for a player not on their timeline what so ever. Wolves make sense but sending Jaden mcdaniels doesnt make sense. And they cant include naz or randle since they haven't even opted in to their player options yet and who knows if they will. That leaves miami and raptors. Masai has done non stop crazy trade shiet ever since winning so maybe he does it one more time before losing durant for nothing next year but I still think miami makes the most sense. Suns holding out for ware or a way to get claxton wiggins and being under apron.


I get that but Phoenix looks at this Bane deal and thinks they can get an extra pick or two despite that, just the stupidly of value of picks in the league


Suns are in a lose lose. They effed up years ago by trading for Beal and giving up a ton for Durant and dismantling a solid young core with mikal cam ayton next to book.

So if anything, this will probably draw out tbe process. Cuz the fanbase will be pissed. But what are they gonna do? Keep Durant when he knows they almost traded him last year and pay 500m in payroll? They're in a tight spot. They're mad cuz whatever they get for durant will now just look even worse but they have no choice.


It does appear that fans immediate reaction is a lot more influencial to teams decisions than it was in past. That GMs are influenced by media perception more than actual results. Its almost as if they go to Realgm trade boards and look at the reactions to grade their job perfomances. :lol:
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Re: 2025 Offseason Season Thread Vol. 2 

Post#232 » by greg4012 » Sun Jun 15, 2025 5:27 pm

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Vertical Limit wrote:Desmond Bane is a way better player than Herro and it’s not even close.. like come on, no GM in the league thinks those two players are in the same tier, except for Pat Riley

Two way player Desmond Bane....hahahahaha,

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Wait are you acting like Bane isn’t a good defender and that saying so is such a wild claim that is only stupid enough to be found on RealGM? Come on man, you’re better than that. I realize vertical is knocking your boy and while you may disagree on Bane vs Herro you don’t have to blatantly lie on the dude


He’s a good defender with some strength to compensate for his league-worst positional length. Hes getting overrated if being compared as close to Bridges on defense (and Bridges isn’t the defender he used to be in PHX).
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Re: 2025 Offseason Season Thread Vol. 2 

Post#233 » by 3ammy3uck3ts » Sun Jun 15, 2025 5:28 pm

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Re: 2025 Offseason Season Thread Vol. 2 

Post#234 » by 3ammy3uck3ts » Sun Jun 15, 2025 5:30 pm

greg4012 wrote:
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Hallstar wrote:Two way player Desmond Bane....hahahahaha,

never let me down RealGM


Wait are you acting like Bane isn’t a good defender and that saying so is such a wild claim that is only stupid enough to be found on RealGM? Come on man, you’re better than that. I realize vertical is knocking your boy and while you may disagree on Bane vs Herro you don’t have to blatantly lie on the dude


He’s a fine defender with some strength to compensate for his league-worst positional length. Hes getting overrated if being compared as close to Bridges on defense (and Bridges isn’t the defender he used to be in PHX).


For sure, he’s not going to be on any all defense teams if I had to guess but he’s absolutely a plus defender who teams won’t view as someone to continuously target during a game. Hes definitely classified as a “two way player” across the league
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Re: 2025 Offseason Season Thread Vol. 2 

Post#235 » by HeatFan_NC » Sun Jun 15, 2025 5:32 pm

SerialChiller wrote:Well...the Magic went and lost their minds


Giving up a bevy of FRPs seems to be the norm in this day's NBA. The Knicks gave up a ton of them for Bridges, and MIN gave up quite a few for Rudy Gobert.

I'm surprised we could only get ONE for Jimmy Butler!!!
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Re: 2025 Offseason Season Thread Vol. 2 

Post#236 » by 3ammy3uck3ts » Sun Jun 15, 2025 5:33 pm

I don’t think the Bane trade set the market but I actually do feel like part of Phoenix will want to hold off until the draft now to let this settle as opposed to this weekend that was being reported over the last day or so. The casual fan who doesn’t understand the business side (the vast majority I would assume) are going to clown Phoenix after seeing what they get compared to Bane I would say.

Hopefully I’m wrong though and they don’t give a fuxk, I’d like to get this done soon so we can pivot for the rest of the roster if he does come here.
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Re: 2025 Offseason Season Thread Vol. 2 

Post#237 » by twix2500 » Sun Jun 15, 2025 5:33 pm

If the Durant trade doesnt fall through and even if it did. I think two players the Heat should go after is Cason Wallace or Benedick Mathurin to pair next to Herro.
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Re: 2025 Offseason Season Thread Vol. 2 

Post#238 » by Vertical Limit » Sun Jun 15, 2025 5:34 pm

How is Nico Harrison not fired after the Desmond Bane trade?
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Re: 2025 Offseason Season Thread Vol. 2 

Post#239 » by 3ammy3uck3ts » Sun Jun 15, 2025 5:37 pm

twix2500 wrote:If the Durant trade doesnt fall through and even if it did. I think two players the Heat should go after is Cason Wallace or Benedick Mathurin to pair next to Herro.


Idk, OKC loves Cason and he’s a cost controlled asset. I do wonder if they’d let Caruso go to shed some money though and increase Casons role to account for him being gone. He’d be an amazing fit
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