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2023 Heat Season Thread - Let me dream edition

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Re: 2023 Heat Season Thread - Let me dream edition 

Post#241 » by 3ammy3uck3ts » Mon May 15, 2023 3:37 pm

Greg is saying Philly thinks Embiid is going to do whatever it takes to get to Miami with Jimmy
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Post#242 » by contract » Mon May 15, 2023 3:39 pm

3ammy3uck3ts wrote:Greg is saying Philly thinks Embiid is going to do whatever it takes to get to Miami with Jimmy

Not happening. Spo is as happy as a pig in **** with Bam at C.
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Post#243 » by LofJ » Mon May 15, 2023 4:15 pm

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Post#244 » by Kobewade11 » Mon May 15, 2023 4:38 pm

LofJ wrote:Chris Quinn is who my Hornets should have hired last year before we **** the bed with the Atkinson hire.

Anyway, I'm rooting hard for y'all. You have the best team culture in the league and it isn't even close.

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Post#245 » by 3ammy3uck3ts » Mon May 15, 2023 4:55 pm

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3ammy3uck3ts wrote:Greg is saying Philly thinks Embiid is going to do whatever it takes to get to Miami with Jimmy

Not happening. Spo is as happy as a pig in **** with Bam at C.


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Post#246 » by AirP. » Mon May 15, 2023 5:12 pm

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Post#247 » by AirP. » Mon May 15, 2023 5:30 pm

3ammy3uck3ts wrote:Greg is saying Philly thinks Embiid is going to do whatever it takes to get to Miami with Jimmy

Morey won't care, he'll send Embiid wherever he gets the most assets/talent from. There's a bunch of teams that will offer way more than Miami in a trade that doesn't include Butler or Bam.

For Embiid to try to get to force his way to Miami you'd have to think he already would know the likelihood of that happening with as much as he talks with Butler.

I will say this, if Miami were to acquire Embiid, I think you would get a better version of Embiid, not only would you have Spoelstra as his coach, but you'd have Butler pushing him like he did in Philly, they just had a bad coach in Brett Brown.

I've said it before and I'll say it again, the only centers I move Bam for would be Embiid or Jovic.
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Post#248 » by 3ammy3uck3ts » Mon May 15, 2023 5:31 pm

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3ammy3uck3ts wrote:Greg is saying Philly thinks Embiid is going to do whatever it takes to get to Miami with Jimmy

Morey won't care, he'll send Embiid wherever he gets the most assets/talent from.

For Embiid to try to get to force his way to Miami you'd have to think he already would know the likelihood of that happening with as much as he talks with Butler.

I will say this, if Miami were to acquire Embiid, I think you would get a better version of Embiid, not only would you have Spoelstra as his coach, but you'd have Butler pushing him like he did in Philly, they just had a bad coach in Brett Brown.

I've said it before and I'll say it again, the only centers I move Bam for would be Embiid or Jovic.


Luckily we already have 2 of them :)
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Post#249 » by 3ammy3uck3ts » Mon May 15, 2023 5:32 pm

If they do it they do it but I’m off it, especially after these playoffs. Embiid will always be injured, always choke, and always be exposed defensively when it matters most. He shows it to us every year.
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Post#250 » by AirP. » Mon May 15, 2023 5:34 pm

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3ammy3uck3ts wrote:Greg is saying Philly thinks Embiid is going to do whatever it takes to get to Miami with Jimmy

Morey won't care, he'll send Embiid wherever he gets the most assets/talent from.

For Embiid to try to get to force his way to Miami you'd have to think he already would know the likelihood of that happening with as much as he talks with Butler.

I will say this, if Miami were to acquire Embiid, I think you would get a better version of Embiid, not only would you have Spoelstra as his coach, but you'd have Butler pushing him like he did in Philly, they just had a bad coach in Brett Brown.

I've said it before and I'll say it again, the only centers I move Bam for would be Embiid or Jovic.


Luckily we already have 2 of them :)


If this current team had just a little more, say a solid 3&D SG and a solid 3&D PF to go with Butler and Bam, this team might be a favorite to win the Championship this year. I think the FO screwed up greatly not tweaking this roster to make it just a little more consistent.
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Post#251 » by AirP. » Mon May 15, 2023 5:39 pm

3ammy3uck3ts wrote:If they do it they do it but I’m off it, especially after these playoffs. Embiid will always be injured, always choke, and always be exposed defensively when it matters most. He shows it to us every year.


Would he with Spoelstra as his coach? Outside of Embiids injuries which is a significant talking point, if a championship is your goal how can you not think about acquiring a 28-year-old current MVP talent to go along with Butler. This could be a Miami acquiring Shaq type move.
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Post#252 » by DayofMourning » Mon May 15, 2023 5:44 pm

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3ammy3uck3ts wrote:Greg is saying Philly thinks Embiid is going to do whatever it takes to get to Miami with Jimmy

Morey won't care, he'll send Embiid wherever he gets the most assets/talent from.

For Embiid to try to get to force his way to Miami you'd have to think he already would know the likelihood of that happening with as much as he talks with Butler.

I will say this, if Miami were to acquire Embiid, I think you would get a better version of Embiid, not only would you have Spoelstra as his coach, but you'd have Butler pushing him like he did in Philly, they just had a bad coach in Brett Brown.

I've said it before and I'll say it again, the only centers I move Bam for would be Embiid or Jovic.


Luckily we already have 2 of them :)


Herro for Embiid. Include Dipo if necessary.
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Post#253 » by 3ammy3uck3ts » Mon May 15, 2023 5:51 pm

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3ammy3uck3ts wrote:If they do it they do it but I’m off it, especially after these playoffs. Embiid will always be injured, always choke, and always be exposed defensively when it matters most. He shows it to us every year.


Would he with Spoelstra as his coach? Outside of Embiids injuries which is a significant talking point, if a championship is your goal how can you not think about acquiring a 28-year-old current MVP talent to go along with Butler. This could be a Miami acquiring Shaq type move.


Unfortunately he would be, it’s who he is. Just like with harden. Which reminds me this is actually very similar situation to when Heat fans didn’t want to trade Herro for Harden, although Bam is far better than Herro, Harden was the MVP guy interested in joining Jimmy and Bam in Miami.

If I remember right Jimmy gave his blessing to go through with the deal and the FO was open to it but the fans were against it? Ultimately the Brooklyn package ended up being better than whatever we offered.

I don’t trust Embiids body, especially at his size and he’ll be 30 next season. Jimmy isn’t a spring chicken either, it could potentially be a Kawhi and PG situation all over again.

Now if Jokic comes available wake me up, he’s far better than Embiid
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Post#254 » by Shewasfly » Mon May 15, 2023 5:51 pm

Not a fan of Embiid and have said it multiple times. But if you can get him for Bam and not much else you do it immediately. Same thing we should have done with KD.
But damn near no chance of that happening. Teams see him as a good player, but no one values Bam as much as we do bc we've built our defense around him. But to get a star for him we'd always need to attach multiple assets. Likely not worth gutting the team since its already so thin in talent.
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Post#255 » by 3ammy3uck3ts » Mon May 15, 2023 5:53 pm

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AirP. wrote:Morey won't care, he'll send Embiid wherever he gets the most assets/talent from.

For Embiid to try to get to force his way to Miami you'd have to think he already would know the likelihood of that happening with as much as he talks with Butler.

I will say this, if Miami were to acquire Embiid, I think you would get a better version of Embiid, not only would you have Spoelstra as his coach, but you'd have Butler pushing him like he did in Philly, they just had a bad coach in Brett Brown.

I've said it before and I'll say it again, the only centers I move Bam for would be Embiid or Jovic.


Luckily we already have 2 of them :)


Herro for Embiid. Include Dipo if necessary.


I’ll gladly send Herro and the picks for him lol. Have Jimmy and Bam continue to work on their 3balls over the summer and unleash them next season. Surround them with elite shooters in the starting lineup, make the bench a bunch of veteran glue guys who are 3 and D type players.
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Post#256 » by 3ammy3uck3ts » Mon May 15, 2023 5:57 pm

I’m not trading Bam for guys that provide a 1-2 year window to win a championship. No KD, no Lillard, no Embiid and based on what we’ve seen so far it would be a great decision not to. Literally 1 injury can close the entire window.

Now if you can get someone like that without using Bam great. Get creative and come up with ways to add picks. I can come up with a way to potentially get 6-7 1sts so I’m sure the FO can too if they really have to.

Bam is this franchises future, he’s the ultimate glue guy and he does it while averaging 20+. He’s the guy this next young generation of elite players wants to play with and the guy with relationships with all of them. He’s the guy Dame wants to come play with.

Not giving those possibilities up for injury prone career chokers.
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Post#257 » by DayofMourning » Mon May 15, 2023 5:58 pm

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Luckily we already have 2 of them :)


Herro for Embiid. Include Dipo if necessary.


I’ll gladly send Herro and the picks for him lol. Have Jimmy and Bam continue to work on their 3balls over the summer and unleash them next season. Surround them with elite shooters in the starting lineup, make the bench a bunch of veteran glue guys who are 3 and D type players.


Oh yeah, you trade Philly basically anyone theyd consider of value. Caleb, Jovic, Herro, all 1sts.
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Post#258 » by Bishop45 » Mon May 15, 2023 6:02 pm

With the new cap rules, I would not want to pay Embiid what he's worth to have him on the team
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Post#259 » by HEATVols865 » Mon May 15, 2023 6:02 pm

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Post#260 » by AirP. » Mon May 15, 2023 6:04 pm

3ammy3uck3ts wrote:I’m not trading Bam for guys that provide a 1-2 year window to win a championship. No KD, no Lillard, no Embiid and based on what we’ve seen so far it would be a great decision not to. Literally 1 injury can close the entire window.

Now if you can get someone like that without using Bam great. Get creative and come up with ways to add picks. I can come up with a way to potentially get 6-7 1sts so I’m sure the FO can too if they really have to.

Bam is this franchises future, he’s the ultimate glue guy and he does it while averaging 20+. He’s the guy this next young generation of elite players wants to play with and the guy with relationships with all of them. He’s the guy Dame wants to come play with.

Not giving those possibilities up for injury prone career chokers.


That's fine, you've decided already to limit the current window that's gotten Miami to the ECF 3 of the last 4 years. I'm 99.9% sure Bam can't be your top player and win a championship so you'll be back to hoping for a #1 to force his way to Miami which I'm sure you expect Mitchell to be that guy, but you never know what happens in the future. You have Wembanyama coming into the league who could be a bigger version of KD. Unless you have a potential MVP level younger player, I think you have to limit your vision to the next 2-4 years.

If Bam can be one of the top 3 players in this series, maybe you don't even consider moving him, but he needs to show why he shouldn't be in any trade.

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