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[AirP.]

They need him to be more than just a 3D guy. They need him to be a go-too player, especially for 40 mill per he is asking for.

Does he though? They have two go-to players already, and he doesn't need to be an All-star to be better than who he's replacing. I think that's worth a shot.

I think if you could get him at $25 million per then that feels good. You start overpaying B level players and things get congested financially.

Id rather have a guy like Caleb Martin and the money hes making than OG at $40 per.

He'll probably be making substantially more (compared to his current contract) next year when he opts out for a new contract this year, even just getting the MLE will be a pretty big jump in his contract.

[Bishop45]

They need him to be more than just a 3D guy. They need him to be a go-too player, especially for 40 mill per he is asking for.

Does he though? They have two go-to players already, and he doesn't need to be an All-star to be better than who he's replacing. I think that's worth a shot.

I think if you could get him at $25 million per then that feels good. You start overpaying B level players and things get congested financially.

Id rather have a guy like Caleb Martin and the money hes making than OG at $40 per.

Players get overpayed everyday, just gotta gamble on which players give you the best chance to win sometimes. We overpayed Lowry for the same reason.

OG is worth overpaying for some teams, Knicks going to find out if they one of those teams

[Flash4thewin]

Does he though? They have two go-to players already, and he doesn't need to be an All-star to be better than who he's replacing. I think that's worth a shot.

I think if you could get him at $25 million per then that feels good. You start overpaying B level players and things get congested financially.

Id rather have a guy like Caleb Martin and the money hes making than OG at $40 per.

Players get overpayed everyday, just gotta gamble on which players give you the best chance to win sometimes. We overpayed Lowry for the same reason.

OG is worth overpaying for some teams, Knicks going to find out if they one of those teams

Everyone gets paid, thats reality. We had people here swear Herro wouldn't get paid much, he got 30 mil from us. When JJJ time to get paid comes up watch him get close to 40 mil or more thanks the new NBA deal. Everyone gets paid.

[twix2500]

Folks sleep on Anunoby, he’s arguably the best 3& D player in the league. Great on a contender, we’ll see what he can do on the knicks

They need him to be more than just a 3D guy. They need him to be a go-too player, especially for 40 mill per he is asking for.

Does he though? They have two go-to players already, and he doesn't need to be an All-star to be better than who he's replacing. I think that's worth a shot.

If that's their formula, that's good because I will gladly enjoy watching the trash organization struggle. One of the most enjoyable things to watch in the NBA.

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[al bondiga]

Yes, like I read, most nba players get big time overpaid... Which usually means they're gonna be very dumb when their career is over... Which usually means We added another Poor human been (spiritually And mentally) to Our society

But then again take into consideration...
There is a lot a lot of poor human beings Among us... Maybe I'm even one of them!!

But it's a new year... Let's laugh

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[Hallstar]

When you got a clear cut generational talent like Wemby, the fan base can breathe for a while lol

[Bishop45]

Fan base can breathe until he has to fulfill huge expectations and becomes a free agent

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Everytime I watch the Warriors this Davis kid is getting washed

[Bishop45]

Warriors core done. They got too cute with their picks over the last few years— should’ve traded for some legit players, at least they got ‘22 ring, which is a whole lot more than a majority of teams could ask for

[AirP.]

It's just crazy Wemby isn't a topic on the national NBA media nearly every week that I keep hearing about, I get nonstop Lakers and LeBron news but rally nothing about Wemby. BTW, what is Pop doing to him, he's a special talent so Pop puts him in a position where he doesn't have a chance to compete and usually no PG on the court? It's nearly criminal what Popovich is making Wemby play with on the court.

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[DayofMourning]

It's just crazy Wemby isn't a topic on the national NBA media that I keep hearing about, I get nonstop Lakers and LeBron news but rally nothing about Wemby. BTW, what is Pop doing to him, he's a special talent so Pop puts him in a position where he doesn't have a chance to compete and usually no PG on the court? It's nearly criminal what Popovich is making Wemby play with on the court.

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Learning to struggle and adapt is part of the process.

[DayofMourning]

Warriors core done. They got too cute with their picks over the last few years— should’ve traded for some legit players, at least they got ‘22 ring, which is a whole lot more than a majority of teams could ask for

Wiseman pick was a killer.

[AirP.]

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It's just crazy Wemby isn't a topic on the national NBA media that I keep hearing about, I get nonstop Lakers and LeBron news but rally nothing about Wemby. BTW, what is Pop doing to him, he's a special talent so Pop puts him in a position where he doesn't have a chance to compete and usually no PG on the court? It's nearly criminal what Popovich is making Wemby play with on the court.

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What is he really learning? The only thing he's learning about right now is that the FO and coaching staff can screw you and make sure you can't compete no matter how good you are. From day 1 this team should have been built around Wemby even if it were with lesser quality players. At this time I 100% back Wemby if he decides to go the LeBron way, not just to leave but refuse to sign a long-term contact, keep signing 2+1s and 1+1s to force the FO to put a roster around you that you can compete with.

As much as I've hated watching Miami waste Butler's acquisition by not really adding much talent in the nearly 5 off seasons (other than an over the hill Lowry) since acquiring him (I count the 1st offseason since he was acquired early in the off season), I think it's beyond crazy to get a player like Wemby and activly tank with him on the roster. The guy should be learning to be a franchise player vs being ignored by his teammates, come on, a fast break, you have Wemby running the court, he's open and you don't pass it to him, you're going to teach Wemby bad habits that it's a waste of energy to run the court or why make winning plays because your franchise is holding you back?

Just think of it as Miami had got this possible HOF player and they didn't even put a PG on the floor with him? His teammates actively ignoring him on the court, you'd be pissed and want the coach fired and you'd be right.

Wemby seems to have the want to be great, for years he's already understood and started doing what he needs to do to limit injuries that a big man his size could have, most players don't do this at his age, he wants to be great, let him be great.

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Here's him with him understanding having to take care of his body at 20 years old.

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[DayofMourning]

What is he really learning? The only thing he's learning about right now is that the FO and coaching staff can screw you and make sure you can't compete no matter how good you are. From day 1 this team should have been built around Wemby even if it were with lesser quality players. At this time I 100% back Wemby if he decides to go the LeBron way, not just to leave but refuse to sign a long-term contact, keep signing 2+1s and 1+1s to force the FO to put a roster around you that you can compete with.

As much as I've hated watching Miami waste Butler's acquisition by not really adding much talent in the nearly 5 off seasons (other than an over the hill Lowry) since acquiring him (I count the 1st offseason since he was acquired early in the off season), I think it's beyond crazy to get a player like Wemby and activly tank with him on the roster. The guy should be learning to be a franchise player vs being ignored by his teammates, come on, a fast break, you have Wemby running the court, he's open and you don't pass it to him, you're going to teach Wemby bad habits that it's a waste of energy to run the court or why make winning plays because your franchise is holding you back?

Just think of it as Miami had got this possible HOF player and they didn't even put a PG on the floor with him? His teammates actively ignoring him on the court, you'd be pissed and want the coach fired and you'd be right.

Wemby seems to have the want to be great, for years he's already understood and started doing what he needs to do to limit injuries that a big man his size could have, most players don't do this at his age, he wants to be great, let him.

Id believe a supreme bball mind like Pop probably has a plan in place to develop every players weaknesses into strengths. I doubt he cares about outside opinion and how poorly a 100 lb 7 footer can look as a teenager. Simple as that.

[AirP.]

What is he really learning? The only thing he's learning about right now is that the FO and coaching staff can screw you and make sure you can't compete no matter how good you are. From day 1 this team should have been built around Wemby even if it were with lesser quality players. At this time I 100% back Wemby if he decides to go the LeBron way, not just to leave but refuse to sign a long-term contact, keep signing 2+1s and 1+1s to force the FO to put a roster around you that you can compete with.

As much as I've hated watching Miami waste Butler's acquisition by not really adding much talent in the nearly 5 off seasons (other than an over the hill Lowry) since acquiring him (I count the 1st offseason since he was acquired early in the off season), I think it's beyond crazy to get a player like Wemby and activly tank with him on the roster. The guy should be learning to be a franchise player vs being ignored by his teammates, come on, a fast break, you have Wemby running the court, he's open and you don't pass it to him, you're going to teach Wemby bad habits that it's a waste of energy to run the court or why make winning plays because your franchise is holding you back?

Just think of it as Miami had got this possible HOF player and they didn't even put a PG on the floor with him? His teammates actively ignoring him on the court, you'd be pissed and want the coach fired and you'd be right.

Wemby seems to have the want to be great, for years he's already understood and started doing what he needs to do to limit injuries that a big man his size could have, most players don't do this at his age, he wants to be great, let him.

Id believe a supreme bball mind like Pop probably has a plan in place to develop every players weaknesses into strengths. I doubt he cares about outside opinion and how poorly a 100 lb 7 footer can look as a teenager. Simple as that.

Huh, I get he's a great guy, had a great career but that was always connected to HOF level players but how many good/great seasons has he coached without a HOF level player? Right now, he has a possible HOF rookie, and the team is on pace to being a historically bad teams in the NBA. He sure didn't make Tim Duncan go through this process.

It's kind of like the Miami thing with Butler, could one big trade in those 4 seasons have brought Miami a championship vs just playing it safe? I have a feeling a younger Riley would have a different approach, still a great mind but I highly doubt he'd settle for nearly half a decade with we got enough while being 1 series short of having a championship.

[DayofMourning]

I don't see any upside for a player who is as mature as Wemby, already understands body maintenace in his teens to have him play on a historically bad NBA team, it makes no sense other then you just wasted a possible HOFers rookie year with a draft class that isn't supposed to be all that good.

Once again, public opinion. Im sure the Spurs can look at the players in this draft and can find a couple guys with their (currently) two lottery picks that will bolster Wembys chances at future success, not rookie year success.

Shoot, if the Spurs were my team and they drafted Sarr and Reed, Id pass the **** out from happiness.