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Game 7: Miami at PHX Nov 6th @ 9 PM EST

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Re: Game 7: Miami at PHX Nov 6th @ 9 PM EST 

Post#241 » by balla345 » Thu Nov 7, 2024 1:18 pm

If we had bam with a real C he would had been matched up with Durant more there at the end.
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Re: Game 7: Miami at PHX Nov 6th @ 9 PM EST 

Post#242 » by MettaWorldPanda » Thu Nov 7, 2024 1:28 pm

balla345 wrote:If we had bam with a real C he would had been matched up with Durant more there at the end.

Instead we had Jagsmith getting shot over time after time. It’s a shame cause he was having a good game. He should be locking down teams best guards not damn 6’10 PF’s
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Re: Game 7: Miami at PHX Nov 6th @ 9 PM EST 

Post#243 » by MettaWorldPanda » Thu Nov 7, 2024 1:31 pm

balla345 wrote:If we had bam with a real C he would had been matched up with Durant more there at the end.

If we want to make a hail mary one last hurrah playoff push with this team then looking at bringing in Nikola Vucevic to play with Bam could be an option.
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Re: Game 7: Miami at PHX Nov 6th @ 9 PM EST 

Post#244 » by Hallstar » Thu Nov 7, 2024 1:33 pm

MettaWorldPanda wrote:Bam is gassed from the years of this franchise grinding his ass to the ground from the years of roster ineptitude. Also lack of offseason playing for team USA is also showing. Dude just looks worn down and the answer for the franchise is to help him with 6’5 220 jagsmith and whatever 6’6 and under wing they can muster up to play the 4. We need physicality, size, and some scoring coming from that 4 spot. Trade for John Collins

Collins would lead to frustration on defense. Might as well do a small deal to bring back Olynyk
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Re: Game 7: Miami at PHX Nov 6th @ 9 PM EST 

Post#245 » by MettaWorldPanda » Thu Nov 7, 2024 1:38 pm

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MettaWorldPanda wrote:Bam is gassed from the years of this franchise grinding his ass to the ground from the years of roster ineptitude. Also lack of offseason playing for team USA is also showing. Dude just looks worn down and the answer for the franchise is to help him with 6’5 220 jagsmith and whatever 6’6 and under wing they can muster up to play the 4. We need physicality, size, and some scoring coming from that 4 spot. Trade for John Collins

Collins would lead to frustration on defense. Might as well do a small deal to bring back Olynyk

I think Vucevic might make more sense. His contract also aligns with Duncan and Jovic. Not opposed to Olynyk but think he’s happy playing in country.
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Re: Game 7: Miami at PHX Nov 6th @ 9 PM EST 

Post#246 » by MettaWorldPanda » Thu Nov 7, 2024 1:40 pm

Before anyone clowns the addition of Vucevic. He’s been an absolute double double machine. Would bring much needed scoring to the front court spot and free up Bam to roam.
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Re: Game 7: Miami at PHX Nov 6th @ 9 PM EST 

Post#247 » by Kobewade11 » Thu Nov 7, 2024 1:46 pm

MettaWorldPanda wrote:Bam is gassed from the years of this franchise grinding his ass to the ground from the years of roster ineptitude. Also lack of offseason playing for team USA is also showing. Dude just looks worn down and the answer for the franchise is to help him with 6’5 220 jagsmith and whatever 6’6 and under wing they can muster up to play the 4. We need physicality, size, and some scoring coming from that 4 spot. Trade for John Collins

He looked pretty energized against Washington scrubs. He really should be the 4
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Re: Game 7: Miami at PHX Nov 6th @ 9 PM EST 

Post#248 » by MettaWorldPanda » Thu Nov 7, 2024 1:49 pm

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MettaWorldPanda wrote:Bam is gassed from the years of this franchise grinding his ass to the ground from the years of roster ineptitude. Also lack of offseason playing for team USA is also showing. Dude just looks worn down and the answer for the franchise is to help him with 6’5 220 jagsmith and whatever 6’6 and under wing they can muster up to play the 4. We need physicality, size, and some scoring coming from that 4 spot. Trade for John Collins

He looked pretty energized against Washington scrubs. He really should be the 4

No level of consistency and i would prefer if we are not asking him to be a prolific scorer. That’s why i’m pushing in finding another big scorer in the front court.
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Re: Game 7: Miami at PHX Nov 6th @ 9 PM EST 

Post#249 » by MettaWorldPanda » Thu Nov 7, 2024 1:53 pm

Another reminder that Jovic is scared to dunk lol. Probably one of the many reasons that caused his benching. He’s taking the Winslow and KZ Okpala trajectory
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Post#250 » by Bishop45 » Thu Nov 7, 2024 2:37 pm

Losing. but playing Ware and. Larsson-- more pls!
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Re: Game 7: Miami at PHX Nov 6th @ 9 PM EST 

Post#251 » by AirP. » Thu Nov 7, 2024 3:04 pm

Bishop45 wrote:Losing. but playing Ware and. Larsson-- more pls!

Larsson seems to know the plays, I have no problem with him, I have tons of concerns for Ware. I had some real concerns for Ware making some mistakes in summer league, but now 4 months later he seems to have learned nothing about the offense other than where to start, set a pick (sometimes he's setting a pick with another player already setting the pick).

This is the easiest to show...

Ware comes to set a pick for Butler outside the 3pt line (Butler's going to take his man to the basket). If you notice, Robinson sees what's happening and is starting to move to get his defender out of the area for an open lane for Butler.

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The issue, Ware has decided he's going to drag is man down to the rim which had Robinson decided to vacate would be a jumbled mess, Robinson basically runs into Ware (Robinson had to change his route to not run into him) while Robinson is vacating the area.

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Butler has to stop his attack now that Nurkic is in position to not only block the shot but stop any pass into the lane. As you all can see, there are now FIVE defenders in the lane with nobody in a clear path to be passed out to.

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Butler is now STUCK with the ball and Robinson has to run to the corner to give Butler someone to pass to.
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Here the pass gets to Robinson and he does make the 3pt, so Robinson basically saved the broken play by running all the way to the corner then hitting a tough shot.
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Later in the game, on a different play Plumlee just completely ignored guarding Ware and only worried about doubling Butler which led to Ware being completely wide open where he got the pass and hit the 3.

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Re: Game 7: Miami at PHX Nov 6th @ 9 PM EST 

Post#252 » by 3ammy3uck3ts » Thu Nov 7, 2024 3:11 pm

MettaWorldPanda wrote:Another reminder that Jovic is scared to dunk lol. Probably one of the many reasons that caused his benching. He’s taking the Winslow and KZ Okpala trajectory


I’d say he’s gone but that’s reliant on the front office actually doing something for once so it’s not likely
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Re: Game 7: Miami at PHX Nov 6th @ 9 PM EST 

Post#253 » by MettaWorldPanda » Thu Nov 7, 2024 3:16 pm

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MettaWorldPanda wrote:Another reminder that Jovic is scared to dunk lol. Probably one of the many reasons that caused his benching. He’s taking the Winslow and KZ Okpala trajectory


I’d say he’s gone but that’s reliant on the front office actually doing something for once so it’s not likely

This front office is stuck in the mud.
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Re: Game 7: Miami at PHX Nov 6th @ 9 PM EST 

Post#254 » by Shewasfly » Thu Nov 7, 2024 3:43 pm

Are we all coming around to the fact that Bam is a 4 but we're playing him out of position to hide his offense better, which I've been saying for years now?

Oh.
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Re: Game 7: Miami at PHX Nov 6th @ 9 PM EST 

Post#255 » by dolphinatik » Thu Nov 7, 2024 4:47 pm

Can't complain much about last night. We are getting what we wanted minus the win. We will find out if bam can be the guy and it's up to him to find his best spots. Better to learn this now. Dnp for jjj was surprising.
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Re: Game 7: Miami at PHX Nov 6th @ 9 PM EST 

Post#256 » by Dmcdani6 » Thu Nov 7, 2024 5:41 pm

MettaWorldPanda wrote:Bam is gassed from the years of this franchise grinding his ass to the ground from the years of roster ineptitude. Also lack of offseason playing for team USA is also showing. Dude just looks worn down and the answer for the franchise is to help him with 6’5 220 jagsmith and whatever 6’6 and under wing they can muster up to play the 4. We need physicality, size, and some scoring coming from that 4 spot. Trade for John Collins


MWP, how did you know on Jovic? Does he make the same bonehead plays? To me, hes inconsistent and not strong. Just curious, always remember you calling out Winslow.
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Re: Game 7: Miami at PHX Nov 6th @ 9 PM EST 

Post#257 » by unowen85 » Thu Nov 7, 2024 5:50 pm

Shewasfly wrote:Are we all coming around to the fact that Bam is a 4 but we're playing him out of position to hide his offense better, which I've been saying for years now?

Oh.


They’ve been hoping he would improve his offense but he’s now been the same player for five years. And now seems to be declining.
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Re: Game 7: Miami at PHX Nov 6th @ 9 PM EST 

Post#258 » by MettaWorldPanda » Thu Nov 7, 2024 6:01 pm

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MettaWorldPanda wrote:Bam is gassed from the years of this franchise grinding his ass to the ground from the years of roster ineptitude. Also lack of offseason playing for team USA is also showing. Dude just looks worn down and the answer for the franchise is to help him with 6’5 220 jagsmith and whatever 6’6 and under wing they can muster up to play the 4. We need physicality, size, and some scoring coming from that 4 spot. Trade for John Collins


MWP, how did you know on Jovic? Does he make the same bonehead plays? To me, hes inconsistent and not strong. Just curious, always remember you calling out Winslow.

His body language and gameplay stink. He’s a wanna be guard in a big body and not a good one. His own country Serbia preferred to play Filip Petrusev at PF over a perceived NBA starter. I don’t want to hear about him coming off the injury either. He’s been overhyped. A project that just hasn’t panned out. Went from i’m not a Center, annoying back injuries, inconsistent game play, not physical enough around the basket, offers no shot blocking, and is allergic to taking it up strong. Lots of red flags. Winslow also had major red flags but the fan base just could not quit him. Much like Winslow it’s time to sell before it’s too late. The Spo benchings are already the beginnings of decreasing value.
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Re: Game 7: Miami at PHX Nov 6th @ 9 PM EST 

Post#259 » by MettaWorldPanda » Thu Nov 7, 2024 6:04 pm

Shewasfly wrote:Are we all coming around to the fact that Bam is a 4 but we're playing him out of position to hide his offense better, which I've been saying for years now?

Oh.

I mean it would be nice to get a physical offensive threat to team with Bam whether it be the 4 or 5
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Re: Game 7: Miami at PHX Nov 6th @ 9 PM EST 

Post#260 » by MettaWorldPanda » Thu Nov 7, 2024 6:07 pm

Jovic was a late round swing for the fence pick by Adam Simon. Couldn’t even work him out cause guess what? He was injured. Only interviewed him before the draft

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