Winslow

[Wiltside]

To be fair, he definitely should not be the second option on this team.

I’m fine with him taking 10-11 shots per game. I just wish he had the ball in his hands more. That’s his game and where he has had most success, finding shooters and creating off the dribble. We limit him, and ourselves, by making him a dribble hand off and screen and roll guy.

Honestly think he’d be outplaying JRich significantly if given the same minutes and played in his natural spot.

If we just gave the ball to Winslow all game every game, what do you figure his stats would look like?

I'm not sure if this is a serious question or not.

Obviously I'm not proposing that we run our offense solely through Justise. That would be a mistake. Dragic, Dion and JJ are all quality shot creators in their own right, but Winslow should be getting more point forward duties than he's currently getting. Perhaps we're trying to round out his skillset, helping him become more effective off the ball - as we know what he can do on the ball.

If he was starting and playing the 33 or so minutes per game that Richardson is playing right now, I'd probably put him at something like 10/5/5. Provided he was playing the point forward role, not the current screen and stand in the corner role.

[Bottomsouth]

I like Winslow since when he was drafted but the more I see of the guy, the more I feel we're switching him between positions to try to mask his weaknesses.

Having him at the the four, contributing 4-6 points per game and not finishing at the rim (at times) does not give me confidence he is the right guy to push this team forward. Then to add that last year we played better with him out.

He is young though so hopefully it works out.

[TasteThePainbow]

The first few years of Winslow have been underwhelming, but I still think the guy has massive potential. Good creator, decent handles, pesky defender and a good drive.

For now his shot is still broken and his conversion rate at the rim is below par, but I truly believe that will come around given time. Here's to hoping that the name Win slow is a prediction!

[contract]

If he was starting and playing the 33 or so minutes per game that Richardson is playing right now, I'd probably put him at something like 10/5/5. Provided he was playing the point forward role, not the current screen and stand in the corner role.

There is nothing in Winslow's numbers to suggest that he'd average 5 assists a game in 33 minutes per game, no matter how much he handled the ball. Last season he averaged just under 3.5 assists per 33 minutes.

[Wiltside]

If he was starting and playing the 33 or so minutes per game that Richardson is playing right now, I'd probably put him at something like 10/5/5. Provided he was playing the point forward role, not the current screen and stand in the corner role.

There is nothing in Winslow's numbers to suggest that he'd average 5 assists a game in 33 minutes per game, no matter how much he handled the ball. Last season he averaged just under 3.5 assists per 33 minutes.

He had a usage rate of 19.8% last season and averaged 3.7 per game. I'd wager with a similar usage rate and minutes he'd hit that number again. With increased usage, perhaps he'd hit the 5 mark.

For context, the current usage rates for the main rotation are below:

Dion Waiters: 26.6%
Goran Dragic: 25.4%
Hassan Whiteside: 24.4%
Kelly Olynyk: 21.5%
James Johnson: 20.6%
Tyler Johnson: 17.7%
Wayne Ellington: 16.9%
Josh Richardson: 16.3%
Justise Winslow: 14.4%

At any rate, the change isn't going to happen overnight. Hopefully Winslow will develop this season, otherwise he's basically playing the same role as his rookie year. Oh well.

[Hoops23]

Trade Winslow for a need position like PF.
Maybe Winslow for J. Randle
or Winslow for Portis

[Wiltside]

You think Winslow sucks at shooting, check out Marcus Smart. Who still happens to feature in most of Boston’s best lineups.

Interesting read on how Smart is still effective despite his horrific J: https://www.cbssports.com/nba/news/marcus-smart-shooting-percentage-stats-boston-celtics-vs-golden-state-warriors/

[Kobewade11]

I feel like a lot of fans want to bash this kid at every turn for not being where they want him to be but can we take a moment and appreciate the tangible growth he's shown after missing most of last year? Through 18 games last season he shot 20% from 3, after 15 games this year he's shooting 31%. He won't get invited to the 3 point shooting contest but you want to see him taking strides to get better and he has obviously done that so far. Let's hope he can continue to build off of that number and hopefully start getting more minutes.

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[Wiltside]

Got treated like a red headed step child tonight.

10/7/1/2/1 in 17 mins. Should’ve had a big game.

Also was 2 assists. Not sure why the Ellington 4pt play wasn’t called a dime. He took it off the hand off.

[KingDavid]

Got treated like a red headed step child tonight.

10/7/1/2/1 in 17 mins. Should’ve had a big game.

Also was 2 assists. Not sure why the Ellington 4pt play wasn’t called a dime. He took it off the hand off.

I don't get why jrich wasn't yanked in favor of Justise.

Might be the contract.

[Bishop45]

The minute discrepancy is deplorable but the fact that we won't play him anywhere but the 4 is worse. Trade him if that's the outlook

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At maximum USG, I'd advocate for him to be both starting Small Forward and back-up PG because it's simply not an either/or issue with this team... We need and he could fit both holes

[Kobewade11]

Got treated like a red headed step child tonight.

10/7/1/2/1 in 17 mins. Should’ve had a big game.

Also was 2 assists. Not sure why the Ellington 4pt play wasn’t called a dime. He took it off the hand off.

I don't get why jrich wasn't yanked in favor of Justise.

Might be the contract.

I'm not sure its contract politics (Kelly cant buy minutes right now), Spoelstra seems convinced that Richardson is his guy at small forward and no amount of missed shots is going to tell him different. If the minute discrepancy continues I wouldn't mind if Justise' agent requested a trade, he's thoroughly outplaying Richardson across the board the fact he only played 18 minutes after the quarter he had is nuts

[dolphinatik]

by far winslows best game this season. For 17 minutes of work i ll take it. IF his minutes remain low and the production is sitll like this his trade value will skyrocket.

[Dmcdani6]

by far winslows best game this season. For 17 minutes of work i ll take it. IF his minutes remain low and the production is sitll like this his trade value will skyrocket.

Lol, you don't wanna keep em??

[ReturnofMVP3]

When is he going to evolve into PG13 or Jimmy Butler. Plz, show yourself.

[RJM]

He's been more successful on his threes lately. I'm surprised.

[Wiltside]

I just want to see him being a little more aggressive offensively. I suppose it's hard to do that with Dion handling 18 of the 24 seconds on a shot clock though.

Realistically, he aint PG or JB. But he can still be a damn good player, if we ever give him the opportunity to actually go out and play through his mistakes. It seems unlikely it will happen in Miami though - due for an extension this offseason after we already paid Rich, TJ, Dion, JJ, Kelly...we'll probably dump the guy with the highest upside, such is our way...

[Bishop45]

Going to be a sad day if/when he gets traded

Don't drink, so I'll po' out a pint of Fairlife for him

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[gom]

After the game in Mexico City versus the Nets, it's clear that Winslow's shooting (if not his defense) is improving, but he still has far to go. Updated stats (after 25th game in Mexico)

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