MIAMI HEAT Offseason Thread 2021 Vol.2

[eddieheatfan]

KZ 0 points 2 rebounds 20 min

Precious 3 points 7 rebounds 16 min

Nigeria won the game sure but let’s not get too excited about these two. Precious still bricking FT’s but did make a nice 3. KZ has great length on defense but is clueless on offense. Best we can ask for here is Nigeria keeps winning and people don’t look at the box scores so trade values go up. Gabe Vincent did his thing but he’a still a small two guard who’s as inconsistent as they come. We have seen him go off like this before and follow it up with 10 awful games in a row. He’s a jag end of the bench guard.

yeppers

[HEATVols865]

We should trade Bam


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[MettaWorldPanda]

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[Beenie]

We should trade Bam


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For Dame, I would in 2 seconds.

[DayofMourning]

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After yesterday's showing, Gabe for Sexton sounds like a quality trade to me;)

[twix2500]

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How much is rookie max?

[MettaWorldPanda]

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How much is rookie max?

Probably a little more then Bam’s.

[MettaWorldPanda]

C/PF Precious Achuiwa
SF KZ Okpala
SG Tyler Herro
SF Andre Iguodala

For

SF/PF Taurean Prince
PG/SG Collin Sexton
PF Dean Wade
SG/PG Damyean Dotson

Use MLE for big.

[marson]

C/PF Precious Achuiwa
SF KZ Okpala
SG Tyler Herro
SF Andre Iguodala

For

SF/PF Taurean Prince
PG/SG Collin Sexton
PF Dean Wade
SG/PG Damyean Dotson

Use MLE for big.

Lowkey want this, as long as we ship out Iggy's ass out of Miami.

[AirP.]

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[IggieCC]

don't really get what's it in for the Cavs? they wanna keep Love as the center piece instead of a young promising guard?

those things don't grow on trees and sure as hell don't in Cleveland

[twix2500]

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I think we are pretty sure that 5 reason initial report on this was correct. 5 reason had reported that Heat went as far to get a third team involved. So I'm sure Heat already made their final offer a while ago. Likely up to the Cavs to decide

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[AirP.]

Another source mentioning that Sexton is very available.

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I think we are pretty sure that 5 reason initial report on this was correct. 5 reason had reported that Heat went as far to get a third team involved. So I'm sure Heat already made their final offer a while ago. Likely up to the Cavs to decide

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I'm good with 5 reasons, I believe most are rumors that they're hearing from people who may know but at the same time, they sometimes seem to throw their opinion in there without throwing up the neon lights saying it's an opinion.

I very well doubt they've done their last best offer because there isn't just 1 trade option with Cleveland, there are a few different packages that make sense at different levels for Miami.

Miami could just try to trade for Sexton by himself but I don't think this is what the Cavs will do since he's still on a rookie contract, they probably want to package him up with Love to get rid of that salary which yeah... instantly upgrades TWO of Miami's starters whose games should really fit in well with Miami, it actually would be an incredible trade for Miami if it costs them Herro, another asset, and filler(Iggy and someone(s) else). Adding both Love and Sexton may make retaining Oladipo much tougher and that has to be part of the equation, if Oladipo is finally fixed and rehabbing correctly he could be a very good player for the next 3-4 years.

Make no mistake, Sexton is the prize but there are a few players on Cleveland's team that could also be available that could help strengthen Miami's rotation at different degrees, players....
Love - Brings rebounding, outside shooting, passing(incredible outlet passer) and has playoff experience but has a huge contract which limits what else Miami could do.
Nance Jr. - Just a very under rated 4 who can also play the 5 or 3, this is the type of 4 you'd want next to Bam if you're going all in on a switchable defense.
Prince - Could be a solid stretch 4 and will be on the last year of his contract and Miami would hold his Bird rights, could be another switchable defender.
Osman - Had a bad year this last season from 3 but could be a solid bench guy and seems to have a solid all around game although not a good defender, would have to research more if his lack of defense is his will to play defense(bad team, so why try as much) or he's just not a good defender.

The issue for Miami is they need to pick a lane and be proactive getting the players before some of their options go away.

[Flash4thewin]

Another source mentioning that Sexton is very available.

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I think we are pretty sure that 5 reason initial report on this was correct. 5 reason had reported that Heat went as far to get a third team involved. So I'm sure Heat already made their final offer a while ago. Likely up to the Cavs to decide

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Assuming that’s even true, other teams can easily trump us. To say the Heat have made a final offer is pure comedy on so many levels.

[twix2500]

Another source mentioning that Sexton is very available.

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I think we are pretty sure that 5 reason initial report on this was correct. 5 reason had reported that Heat went as far to get a third team involved. So I'm sure Heat already made their final offer a while ago. Likely up to the Cavs to decide

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I'm good with 5 reasons, I believe most are rumors that they're hearing from people who may know but at the same time, they sometimes seem to throw their opinion in there without throwing up the neon lights saying it's an opinion.

I very well doubt they've done their last best offer because there isn't just 1 trade option with Cleveland, there are a few different packages that make sense at different levels for Miami.

Miami could just try to trade for Sexton by himself but I don't think this is what the Cavs will do since he's still on a rookie contract, they probably want to package him up with Love to get rid of that salary which yeah... instantly upgrades TWO of Miami's starters whose games should really fit in well with Miami, it actually would be an incredible trade for Miami if it costs them Herro, another asset, and filler(Iggy and someone(s) else). Adding both Love and Sexton may make retaining Oladipo much tougher and that has to be part of the equation, if Oladipo is finally fixed and rehabbing correctly he could be a very good player for the next 3-4 years.

Make no mistake, Sexton is the prize but there are a few players on Cleveland's team that could also be available that could help strengthen Miami's rotation at different degrees, players....
Love - Brings rebounding, outside shooting, passing(incredible outlet passer) and has playoff experience but has a huge contract which limits what else Miami could do.
Nance Jr. - Just a very under rated 4 who can also play the 5 or 3, this is the type of 4 you'd want next to Bam if you're going all in on a switchable defense.
Prince - Could be a solid stretch 4 and will be on the last year of his contract and Miami would hold his Bird rights, could be another switchable defender.
Osman - Had a bad year this last season from 3 but could be a solid bench guy and seems to have a solid all around game although not a good defender, would have to research more if his lack of defense is his will to play defense(bad team, so why try as much) or he's just not a good defender.

The issue for Miami is they need to pick a lane and be proactive getting the players before some of their options may go away.

I agree with you that a lot of them do not know how to discuss things in a way to let the public know the difference between opinio and a report but also there are a lot people who do not know the difference as well and will take anything you say as a report. These are inexperience people who didn't go to school for this so they are learning on the fly. They also have a greater responsibility then a lot of reporters because they are also content creators for s blog website. So they have to create discussions and debates to drive traffic.

I seen how some people react. There are some people who are ultra negative when you have some inside info. It happened to me in the past when I passed some info. I wrote a long explanation about the info I had, so there will not be any confusion and still poster attacked me. However I didn't get sensitive about it.

A lot info is not direct intel. Its not coming from Pat Riley ect. It comes from a assistant, a scout, trainer or a family and friend member. Its hard even for a national media guy to get direct info and thats usually from a agent.



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[twix2500]

Another source mentioning that Sexton is very available.

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I think we are pretty sure that 5 reason initial report on this was correct. 5 reason had reported that Heat went as far to get a third team involved. So I'm sure Heat already made their final offer a while ago. Likely up to the Cavs to decide

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Assuming that’s even true, other teams can easily trump us. To say the Heat have made a final offer is pure comedy on so many levels.

Explain why would it be comedy? Negotiation are not constant. There are so many scenarios you can and are willing to discuss which shouldn't take more than a day or two.

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[Kobewade11]

Listening to 5 guys podcast now. Regarding Sexton: "I think all indications are that the Heat are interested and that the player in interested".

One fairly good point brought up by Adam, whom I don't mind. If you're trading for and maxing Sexton, that's pretty much your core for the rest of Jimmy's good years..so you better be sure he's "the guy". I've got no interest in a chihuahua backcourt of Lowry/Sexton either.

[AirP.]

Listening to 5 guys podcast now. Regarding Sexton: "I think all indications are that the Heat are interested and that the player in interested".

One fairly good point brought up by Adam, whom I don't mind. If you're trading for and maxing Sexton, that's pretty much your core for the rest of Jimmy's good years..so you better be sure he's "the guy". I've got no interest in a chihuahua backcourt of Lowry/Sexton either.

Liked hearing from Adam that both parties are interested in each other but it may not matter if other teams are willing to max him and knows having his restricted rights gives them a good oppertunity to convince him to stay this year and whatever extension they match.

Sexton has been called selfish which might be a good player to pair with Bam long term who seems too passive but still seems to drop near 20 ppg.

With Butler, although he wants Lowry I think he'd be good with a hard working player like Sexton who seems to give a damn during games.

I doubt Miami would acquire both Sexton and Lowry and currently I'm leaning greatly towards Miami acquiring Sexton for the short and long term future for Miami. With acquiring Lowry you're moving some expiring salary that you could use for some other high salary player that a team wants to get off of or just not pick up team option(Iggy) and roll the dice with Oladipo being ready halfway through next season.

[twix2500]

Listening to 5 guys podcast now. Regarding Sexton: "I think all indications are that the Heat are interested and that the player in interested".

One fairly good point brought up by Adam, whom I don't mind. If you're trading for and maxing Sexton, that's pretty much your core for the rest of Jimmy's good years..so you better be sure he's "the guy". I've got no interest in a chihuahua backcourt of Lowry/Sexton either.

Yeah I think if you get Sexton there is no Lowry. That means Butler will be point. Which is fine because Sexton is a scorer, that relieved Butler from some of the scoring responsibilities. Not ideal but ok.

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[RexBoyWonder]

Listening to 5 guys podcast now. Regarding Sexton: "I think all indications are that the Heat are interested and that the player in interested".

One fairly good point brought up by Adam, whom I don't mind. If you're trading for and maxing Sexton, that's pretty much your core for the rest of Jimmy's good years..so you better be sure he's "the guy". I've got no interest in a chihuahua backcourt of Lowry/Sexton either.

Sometimes in life and basketball, you need to take the best you can get, not to best you want.

I'd rather get Lilard and Booker, but I'll take a Sexton/Lowry backcourt over Nunn/Duncan.

We have very few assets and the market is very dry. Got to Do the best we can with that.