Miami Heat Regular Season Thread 21-22 Vol. 2 - Can we get to first place?

[twix2500]

This room has OPP i mean OPRP "Other People's Role Player" obsessive disorder. Heat have shown they have quality complementary role players to Bam and Butler. Give themselves a chance to prove it in the playoffs.

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[gom]

Oh. Now Ira has discovered the Caleb Martin salary issue we were discussing last week:

https://www.sun-sentinel.com/sports/miami-heat/fl-sp-miami-heat-main-sunday-20220123-4rk2bctkvfax5msucmpzrtfw4q-story.html

yep... that's a problem, Ira. Duh.

[harlem_ball]

http://www.espn.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=ybpk9y4x

Trade Tucker and Vincent for Caruso. Tucker and Vincent’s value has never been higher. Bulls are desperate for depth especially at PF too. Caruso is an elite perimeter defender in his prime. Caruso is 27 yrs old and Tucker is 36. Vincent is much improved now to add good value.

I think the Bulls might do this trade now that Caruso is out 2 months. Their starting PF, Williams, is injured and out for the season also. You might as well take advantage of the Heat’s depth and get some value from desperate teams. Oladipo and Morris should be back soon. Tucker and Caruso would be going to contenders still so they won’t be too upset.

HEAT
Lowry / Caruso / Guy
Strus / Herro / Oladipo
Butler / Martin / Duncan
Bam / Morris / Okpala
Yurt / Dedmon / Haslem

BULLS
Ball / Vincent
LaVine / White / Dosunmu
DeRozan / Jones / Green
Tucker / (Williams*)
Vucevic / Bradley

*out for season

[Bhut Jolokia]

http://www.espn.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=ybpk9y4x

Trade Tucker and Vincent for Caruso. Tucker and Vincent’s value has never been higher. Bulls are desperate for depth especially at PF too. Caruso is an elite perimeter defender in his prime. Caruso is 27 yrs old and Tucker is 36. Vincent is much improved now to add good value.

I think the Bulls might do this trade now that Caruso is out 2 months. Their starting PF, Williams, is injured and out for the season also. You might as well take advantage of the Heat’s depth and get some value from desperate teams. Oladipo and Morris should be back soon. Tucker and Caruso would be going to contenders still so they won’t be too upset.

HEAT
Lowry / Caruso / Guy
Strus / Herro / Oladipo
Butler / Martin / Duncan
Bam / Morris / Okpala
Yurt / Dedmon / Haslem

BULLS
Ball / Vincent
LaVine / White / Dosunmu
DeRozan / Jones / Green
Tucker / (Williams*)
Vucevic / Bradley

*out for season

I actually think Caruso’s contract is pretty cheap seeing how well he’s played this year especially. It was a fair contract at the time of signing but now it’s really cheap. I’m just throwing ideas around like I see a lot of other posters do here just for fun. I hope nobody takes it personally. Tucker is definitely valuable however long he can keep it up (36 yrs old). I just think a team like the Bulls would overpay in whatever way for him this year.

Funny thing is seeing how many people here want to trade Duncan which might be more ridiculous. I think Caruso is much better than Duncan this year too. Caruso is getting paid half what Duncan is. It’s probably dumb trading Duncan now since you basically have to attach him to somebody more valuable.

[al bondiga]

Do you guys think that by now spo realizes that the nba is not build for small ball all the time?

[Bhut Jolokia]

It’s hard to keep track of everybody’s opinions here, I guess since I’m not on regularly. Some people want Yurt starting, some people want Tucker starting, some people want to trade Duncan, some people don’t want to trade Duncan, etc. I can’t keep track of who thinks what anymore. Most think their opinion is obviously, without a doubt, the right one too.

[al bondiga]

It’s hard to keep track of everybody’s opinions here, I guess since I’m not on regularly. Some people want Yurt starting, some people want Tucker starting, some people want to trade Duncan, some people don’t want to trade Duncan, etc. I can’t keep track of who thinks what anymore. Most think their opinion is obviously, without a doubt, the right one too.

yes... my opinion that is right 90 to 95% of the time... don't rub it in because it a curse sometimes...ja... spo, please limit your small balls... jeje

[DayofMourning]

It’s hard to keep track of everybody’s opinions here, I guess since I’m not on regularly. Some people want Yurt starting, some people want Tucker starting, some people want to trade Duncan, some people don’t want to trade Duncan, etc. I can’t keep track of who thinks what anymore. Most think their opinion is obviously, without a doubt, the right one too.

I've always been the the guy who believes in chemistry over stars and starting.

I'd have Yurt, Bam, Duncan, Strus and Lowry as starters. I'd have Dedmon, Tucker, Butler, Herro and Gabe as my bench.

[Bhut Jolokia]

It’s hard to keep track of everybody’s opinions here, I guess since I’m not on regularly. Some people want Yurt starting, some people want Tucker starting, some people want to trade Duncan, some people don’t want to trade Duncan, etc. I can’t keep track of who thinks what anymore. Most think their opinion is obviously, without a doubt, the right one too.

I've always been the the guy who believes in chemistry over stars and starting.

I'd have Yurt, Bam, Duncan, Strus and Lowry as starters. I'd have Dedmon, Tucker, Butler, Herro and Gabe as my bench.

I kind of like that idea. It gives the team a lot of balance!

[AirP.]

It’s hard to keep track of everybody’s opinions here, I guess since I’m not on regularly. Some people want Yurt starting, some people want Tucker starting, some people want to trade Duncan, some people don’t want to trade Duncan, etc. I can’t keep track of who thinks what anymore. Most think their opinion is obviously, without a doubt, the right one too.

I've always been the the guy who believes in chemistry over stars and starting.

I'd have Yurt, Bam, Duncan, Strus and Lowry as starters. I'd have Dedmon, Tucker, Butler, Herro and Gabe as my bench.

I've always believed in stars and chemistry, just because you have stars doesn't mean you can't have chemistry.

[oreon]

Do you guys think that by now spo realizes that the nba is not build for small ball all the time?

We are no 1 seed in the East with Bam, Lowry and Butler each missing some chunks of games. Spo knows what he's doing.

[3ammy3uck3ts]

To answer the title of the thread….YES!!! At least until the Bulls take it back tomorrow after they beat OKC.

[3ammy3uck3ts]

Spo is easily Coach of the year. Herro is easily 6 man of the year.

Had we been healthy all season Jimmy would worst case be a finalist for MVP and same for Bam for DPOY. We should be well decorated to end the season.

[marson]

We're officially number 1 again. Thanks to the wolves.

Now we need to beat our sons Knicks to widen it a bit.

[3ammy3uck3ts]

Gobert was played off the floor tonight because of his defense against the warriors in a loss

As I was saying…..

[rate_]

Spo is easily Coach of the year. Herro is easily 6 man of the year.

Had we been healthy all season Jimmy would worst case be a finalist for MVP and same for Bam for DPOY. We should be well decorated to end the season.

I disagree. Even if both were healthy throughout the season, Jimmy wouldn't have the raw numbers to compete with an Embiid/Jokic/Giannis and Bam wouldn't get enough respect from the media to be a DPOY finalist unless maybe if the Heat were campaigning for Bam earlier than they did last season and if Miami was within the TOP 3 in DRTG. Giannis/Draymond/Embiid/Gobert would still be prioritized before Bam.

The national media thinks of Miami Heat as a team full of role players with minimal talent but 100% grit/effort, including Jimmy. Those type of players never win individual awards unless it's defense based. Spoelstra/Riley are the only individuals within the Heat organization that gets real national respect/recognition.

[al bondiga]

Do you guys think that by now spo realizes that the nba is not build for small ball all the time?

We are no 1 seed in the East with Bam, Lowry and Butler each missing some chunks of games. Spo knows what he's doing.

yes spo knows what he's doing, agreed... but come playoff of time we need a bigger starting lineup or we are going to get bullied... how about start preparing for it???

[3ammy3uck3ts]

Spo is easily Coach of the year. Herro is easily 6 man of the year.

Had we been healthy all season Jimmy would worst case be a finalist for MVP and same for Bam for DPOY. We should be well decorated to end the season.

I disagree. Even if both were healthy throughout the season, Jimmy wouldn't have the raw numbers to compete with an Embiid/Jokic/Giannis and Bam wouldn't get enough respect from the media to be a DPOY finalist unless maybe if the Heat were campaigning for Bam earlier than they did last season and if Miami was within the TOP 3 in DRTG. Giannis/Draymond/Embiid/Gobert would still be prioritized before Bam.

The national media thinks of Miami Heat as a team full of role players with minimal talent but 100% grit/effort, including Jimmy. Those type of players never win individual awards unless it's defense based. Spoelstra/Riley are the only individuals within the Heat organization that gets real national respect/recognition.

Jimmy was a leader for quite a bit of the early season, Bam was top 4 last year he would’ve got recognition. Team success plays a major part too

[3ammy3uck3ts]

Spo is easily Coach of the year. Herro is easily 6 man of the year.

Had we been healthy all season Jimmy would worst case be a finalist for MVP and same for Bam for DPOY. We should be well decorated to end the season.

I disagree. Even if both were healthy throughout the season, Jimmy wouldn't have the raw numbers to compete with an Embiid/Jokic/Giannis and Bam wouldn't get enough respect from the media to be a DPOY finalist unless maybe if the Heat were campaigning for Bam earlier than they did last season and if Miami was within the TOP 3 in DRTG. Giannis/Draymond/Embiid/Gobert would still be prioritized before Bam.

The national media thinks of Miami Heat as a team full of role players with minimal talent but 100% grit/effort, including Jimmy. Those type of players never win individual awards unless it's defense based. Spoelstra/Riley are the only individuals within the Heat organization that gets real national respect/recognition.

We’re 4th in DRTG tied with Utah and the bucks with our top 2 defenders missing major time

[Riftur]

http://www.espn.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=ybpk9y4x

Trade Tucker and Vincent for Caruso. Tucker and Vincent’s value has never been higher. Bulls are desperate for depth especially at PF too. Caruso is an elite perimeter defender in his prime. Caruso is 27 yrs old and Tucker is 36. Vincent is much improved now to add good value.

I think the Bulls might do this trade now that Caruso is out 2 months. Their starting PF, Williams, is injured and out for the season also. You might as well take advantage of the Heat’s depth and get some value from desperate teams. Oladipo and Morris should be back soon. Tucker and Caruso would be going to contenders still so they won’t be too upset.

HEAT
Lowry / Caruso / Guy
Strus / Herro / Oladipo
Butler / Martin / Duncan
Bam / Morris / Okpala
Yurt / Dedmon / Haslem

BULLS
Ball / Vincent
LaVine / White / Dosunmu
DeRozan / Jones / Green
Tucker / (Williams*)
Vucevic / Bradley

*out for season

I actually think Caruso’s contract is pretty cheap seeing how well he’s played this year especially. It was a fair contract at the time of signing but now it’s really cheap. I’m just throwing ideas around like I see a lot of other posters do here just for fun. I hope nobody takes it personally. Tucker is definitely valuable however long he can keep it up (36 yrs old). I just think a team like the Bulls would overpay in whatever way for him this year.

Funny thing is seeing how many people here want to trade Duncan which might be more ridiculous. I think Caruso is much better than Duncan this year too. Caruso is getting paid half what Duncan is. It’s probably dumb trading Duncan now since you basically have to attach him to somebody more valuable.

I think PJ is to important to our team right now to trade him. If we were not true contenders, I would agree with you. Dedmon and Vincent are tradable since we have Yurt and a few players that can replace Vincent (even though I love the guy and the energy he plays with). As far as Robinson, now that he seems to have gotten out of his shooting funk, he is worth the money we are paying him. His game outside of 3 pt shooting keeps improving also.