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Re: NBA Draft Thread 2023 

Post#261 » by MettaWorldPanda » Wed May 17, 2023 2:52 am

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RexBoyWonder wrote:Leonard Miller and Sasser are 2 of my favorites,

we need to nail this pick


Leif said heat are highly interested in Sasser. As of right now I’m leaning on a combo of Hood-Shifino and Kobe Brown or Noah Clowney and Keyontae Johnson or Reece Beckman or Mike Miles

I believe Johnson could give starting quality play his rookie season

Hood-Schifino really growing on me especially with the prospect of Vincent getting a decent bag from another team. 6’6 213 from the PG spot is really impressive size. Would be a perfect match with Herro in the backcourt if no major trade materializes. Prefer him over Bufkin now because he’s the more pure PG. Jovic has to be given every opportunity next year to prove himself as the backup 4/5.
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Re: NBA Draft Thread 2023 

Post#262 » by twix2500 » Wed May 17, 2023 3:50 am

Former RealGm Heat board poster Jon G, given his post-lottery mock draft for ESPN. Has both my 1st round options drafted before the Heats pick. If the first 18 falls like this I would trade down to pick up additional picks. Note worthy he has GG Jackson falling out the first round


With the San Antonio Spurs winning the lottery ahead of the Charlotte Hornets at No. 2, Portland Trail Blazers at No. 3 and Houston Rockets at No. 4, Jonathan Givony of ESPN has published an update mock draft.

San Antonio Spurs: Victor Wembanyama
Charlotte Hornets: Brandon Miller
Portland Trail Blazers: Scoot Henderson
Houston Rockets: Amen Thompson
Detroit Pistons: Ausar Thompson
Orlando Magic: Cam Whitmore
Indiana Pacers: Jarace Walker
Washington Wizards: Anthony Black
Utah Jazz: Gradey Dick
Dallas Mavericks: Taylor Hendericks
Orlando Magic (via Bulls): Jordan Hawkins
Oklahoma City Thunder: Cason Wallace
Toronto Raptors: Keyonte George
New Orleans Pelicans: Nick Smith Jr.
Atlanta Hawks: Jalen Hood-Schifino
Utah Jazz (via Wolves): Noah Clowney
Los Angeles Lakers: Jett Howard
Miami Heat: Rayan Rupert
Golden State Warriors: Kobe Bufkin
Houston Rockets (via Clippers): Brice Sensabaugh
Brooklyn Nets (via Suns): Leonard Miller
Brooklyn Nets: Bilal Coulibaly
Portland Trail Blazers (via Knicks): James Nnaji
Sacramento Kings: Kris Murray
Memphis Grizzlies: Dereck Lively II
Indiana Pacers (via Cavaliers): Dariq Whitehead
Charlotte Hornets (via Nuggets): Maxwell Lewis
Utah Jazz (via Sixers): Colby Jones
Indiana Pacers (via Celtics): Andre Jackson
Los Angeles Clippers (via Bucks): Jaime Jaquez Jr.
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Re: NBA Draft Thread 2023 

Post#263 » by RexBoyWonder » Wed May 17, 2023 5:29 am

Portland picking Scoot Henderson = end of the Lilard era

could be big for us
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Re: NBA Draft Thread 2023 

Post#264 » by RexBoyWonder » Wed May 17, 2023 5:33 am

MettaWorldPanda wrote:
twix2500 wrote:
RexBoyWonder wrote:Leonard Miller and Sasser are 2 of my favorites,

we need to nail this pick


Leif said heat are highly interested in Sasser. As of right now I’m leaning on a combo of Hood-Shifino and Kobe Brown or Noah Clowney and Keyontae Johnson or Reece Beckman or Mike Miles

I believe Johnson could give starting quality play his rookie season

Hood-Schifino really growing on me especially with the prospect of Vincent getting a decent bag from another team. 6’6 213 from the PG spot is really impressive size. Would be a perfect match with Herro in the backcourt if no major trade materializes. Prefer him over Bufkin now because he’s the more pure PG. Jovic has to be given every opportunity next year to prove himself as the backup 4/5.

i like the size, but Sasser is also a very good POA defender, and his elite 3 point shooting is so so unbelievably important for a team with jimmy and bam
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Post#265 » by Pokuokic » Wed May 17, 2023 9:19 am

Why wouldn't the Hornets take Henderson to pair with LeMelo?
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Post#266 » by MettaWorldPanda » Wed May 17, 2023 10:22 am

Pokuokic wrote:Why wouldn't the Hornets take Henderson to pair with LeMelo?

Scoot and Lamelo backcourt is not a good fit at all. Miller is exactly who they need to fill the void for them as a dynamic scoring SF. Oubre is a F/A and Hayward is going into his last year.
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Post#267 » by DayofMourning » Wed May 17, 2023 10:56 am

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DayofMourning wrote:Spurs did it again. I shouldve put money on that one lol.

Felt so rigged lol. Anyways Wemby will be there Tim Duncan and then some.


Admiral, Duncan and Wembenyama. Thats some other wordly type of luck.

I think the league knows they need to have Victor in the right situation with a stable environment.

Some years you jist know whats going to happen. Lebron to Cleveland. Yao to Houston. Victor to SA.
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Post#268 » by IceColdCubano » Wed May 17, 2023 11:20 am

RexBoyWonder wrote:Portland picking Scoot Henderson = end of the Lilard era

could be big for us

Maybe they want to make the team competitive around Damien Lillard, and we offer them 2 FRP's, this years #18 & Tyler Herro for their #3 pick in this years draft.
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Post#269 » by IceColdCubano » Wed May 17, 2023 11:22 am

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Pokuokic wrote:Why wouldn't the Hornets take Henderson to pair with LeMelo?

Scoot and Lamelo backcourt is not a good fit at all. Miller is exactly who they need to fill the void for them as a dynamic scoring SF. Oubre is a F/A and Hayward is going into his last year.

Lamelo is injury prone, you want to take Scoot, and move Lamelo Always take the best available player. If thats the case then trade the #2 pick for the #3 pick and get an additional asset and you can take Miller at that spot.
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Re: NBA Draft Thread 2023 

Post#270 » by MettaWorldPanda » Wed May 17, 2023 12:49 pm

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Pokuokic wrote:Why wouldn't the Hornets take Henderson to pair with LeMelo?

Scoot and Lamelo backcourt is not a good fit at all. Miller is exactly who they need to fill the void for them as a dynamic scoring SF. Oubre is a F/A and Hayward is going into his last year.

Lamelo is injury prone, you want to take Scoot, and move Lamelo Always take the best available player. If thats the case then trade the #2 pick for the #3 pick and get an additional asset and you can take Miller at that spot.

Miller is deserving of the #2 pick. I don’t think the Hornets are interested in moving Ball either as he puts butts in the seats. I just don’t see them going for a PG. Could they trade the pick? Absolutely

https://www.cbssports.com/nba/news/2023-nba-draft-lottery-hornets-face-scoot-henderson-vs-brandon-miller-question-after-landing-no-2-pick/
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Re: NBA Draft Thread 2023 

Post#271 » by MettaWorldPanda » Wed May 17, 2023 12:52 pm

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RexBoyWonder wrote:Portland picking Scoot Henderson = end of the Lilard era

could be big for us

Maybe they want to make the team competitive around Damien Lillard, and we offer them 2 FRP's, this years #18 & Tyler Herro for their #3 pick in this years draft.

If they want to trade the 3rd pick for a vet it’s not going to be for Tyler Herro. They have Shaedon Sharpe ready to take off for them and also have Simons. I think the stage is set for them to take Scoot as Lillard’s successor. If someone trades up for Scoot they will take Miller.
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Post#272 » by MettaWorldPanda » Wed May 17, 2023 1:05 pm

PG hungry Wiz sitting at 8 might be willing to trade Beal for the 2 in order to get Scoot. Then they could reup Porzingis and Kuzma with no issues and take Beal’s replacement at 8. Beal is apart of Jordan brand and would give Ball a star running mate in the backcourt. Hornets have Hayward’s expiring to dangle to give the Wiz salary relief.
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Post#273 » by DayofMourning » Wed May 17, 2023 1:27 pm

MettaWorldPanda wrote:PG hungry Wiz sitting at 8 might be willing to trade Beal for the 2 in order to get Scoot. Then they could reup Porzingis and Kuzma with no issues and take Beal’s replacement at 8. Beal is apart of Jordan brand and would give Ball a star running mate in the backcourt. Hornets have Hayward’s expiring to dangle to give the Wiz salary relief.


Cant do it MWP. Id say trading the 2nd for Beal would be a franchise crippling move. The ultimate goal of winning a chip doesnt get any better by adding Beal. Scoot or Miller needs to be the choice.
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Post#274 » by MettaWorldPanda » Wed May 17, 2023 1:39 pm

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MettaWorldPanda wrote:PG hungry Wiz sitting at 8 might be willing to trade Beal for the 2 in order to get Scoot. Then they could reup Porzingis and Kuzma with no issues and take Beal’s replacement at 8. Beal is apart of Jordan brand and would give Ball a star running mate in the backcourt. Hornets have Hayward’s expiring to dangle to give the Wiz salary relief.


Cant do it MWP. Id say trading the 2nd for Beal would be a franchise crippling move. The ultimate goal of winning a chip doesnt get any better by adding Beal. Scoot or Miller needs to be the choice.

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Yeah guessing Hornets should just stay put and continue building. Miller would be a great pick for them. Very interesting if Scoot is sitting at 3 what Portland does. Especially if they are looking for another star player to tandem with Lillard. Maybe Beal to Portland? Simons to the Wiz?
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Post#275 » by DayofMourning » Wed May 17, 2023 2:07 pm

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MettaWorldPanda wrote:PG hungry Wiz sitting at 8 might be willing to trade Beal for the 2 in order to get Scoot. Then they could reup Porzingis and Kuzma with no issues and take Beal’s replacement at 8. Beal is apart of Jordan brand and would give Ball a star running mate in the backcourt. Hornets have Hayward’s expiring to dangle to give the Wiz salary relief.


Cant do it MWP. Id say trading the 2nd for Beal would be a franchise crippling move. The ultimate goal of winning a chip doesnt get any better by adding Beal. Scoot or Miller needs to be the choice.

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Yeah guessing Hornets should just stay put and continue building. Miller would be a great pick for them. Very interesting if Scoot is sitting at 3 what Portland does. Especially if they are looking for another star player to tandem with Lillard. Maybe Beal to Portland? Simons to the Wiz?


I can understand Portland having a viewpoint that they should try and get a chip with Lillard. Reality is, I dont see that happening unless a top five player joined him. I dont see that happening. If it did, theyd have Dame and top five player and a bunch of G Leaguers.

I think theyre full of **** and will trade his ass after putting out speculation he will stay to increase the return they get when they "mutually" agree to trade him.
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Post#276 » by twix2500 » Wed May 17, 2023 2:14 pm

Do you all want GG Jackson? From all indications he will be easily available for the Heat

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Post#277 » by DayofMourning » Wed May 17, 2023 2:22 pm

twix2500 wrote:Do you all want GG Jackson? From all indications he will be easily available for the Heat

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From what ive read, hes a few bricks short of a Lego set. Cant invest in that if true.
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Post#278 » by MettaWorldPanda » Wed May 17, 2023 2:27 pm

twix2500 wrote:Do you all want GG Jackson? From all indications he will be easily available for the Heat

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Draft.net has him going 11 and tankathon 23. With that being said i’d roll the dice on his talent as i think his game will translate well at the next level. Frank Martin recruited him heavily to South Carolina before getting fired and heading to Umass. He’s the youngest player in the draft and a rebuilding team might take him higher then many expect.
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Post#279 » by MettaWorldPanda » Wed May 17, 2023 3:09 pm

3ammy3uck3ts wrote:We need to trade 18 to the nets or Pacers for their 2 later 1st round picks and flip those in a deal for a star. We’re probably not drafting this year if we finally decide it’s time to go all in

If Portland don't budge with Lillard I don't see much materializing. I do think we make deals but it will be to round out the all around depth with the salaries of Lowry and Duncan. Portland management and Lillard are just stubborn.
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Post#280 » by greg4012 » Wed May 17, 2023 3:12 pm

GG Jackson's appeal is that he has length and has enough of a handle and enough athleticism to create open looks for himself around the court. And he's young.

But, if he can't hit any shots then what good is it to add a blackhole that only tries to take them. His shooting numbers and decisionmaking were BAD BAD.

His wingspan is subpar for his size (6'10), so he's kind of a mediocre-sized 4 that tries to play like a 2. His assist to turnover ratio was putrid (0.8 assists to 2.7 turnovers) and his usage was massive.

Seems like a blackhole that doesn't have a skillset to do the things you want someone his size or position to do and needs the ball in his hands to try to make an impact but isn't efficient enough to warrant having the ball in his hands.

I see the upside appeal. But when chasing upside, I want to at least see some baseline skills to function as a role player. That's what I like about D'ariq Whitehead (baseline as 3&D role player) and Leonard Miller (baseline as rim-runner and modern PF).

I may be a broken record on my Leonard Miller hype, but to me he is the real version of what GG Jackson is hyped to be.

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