Fire Spoelstra

[Iputsomepantson]

An outside jumpshot for Lebron after the timeout. That's the best play Spo could come up with. A frickin shot almost at the 3 point line on an isolation play.

[BlueCafe]

That's what we're dealing with. I wonder if the team is still favorites in Vegas? I might put a whole months paycheck on Boston to win it all cause we're not going anywhere against the better teams.

[BronBron06]

Isn't it true that Larry Brown didnt sign an extension with the Bobcats?

NO Fkin LARRY BROWN

His DOUCHENESS on Amare LeBron Melo Wade cost USA Bronze trophy

[MadPT]

No way at JVG being our coach, Zo took a dump on him and Riley took on a dump on his brother. The Van Babies hate the Heat and they can suck it, JVG is a bitch.

[Tim_Hardawayy]

I'd feel a lot better about our coach if he just came out and said we need to work on the offense for a change. But instead its always "defense, defense, defense".

Erik Spoelstra, Dave Wannstedt, I can't tell the difference. Except this is like if you gave Dave a prime Peyton Manning, Randy Moss and LaDainian Tomlinson and we still underperformed.

One thing Spoelstra's not recognizing, good offense makes it easier to play defense. When you're making shots, you get more motivated to play D, and you have more time to get back without putting as much stress on transition D. When teams are doubling you in points in the paint just about nightly, you have a poor offense.

I just keep thinking back to 10 years ago or so, when the Dolphins would lose a game with a score of like 10-7 or something, and all Dave could talk about was how the defense needs to work a little harder. So FRUSTRATING.

[salqaddoumi]

I'd feel a lot better about our coach if he just came out and said we need to work on the offense for a change. But instead its always "defense, defense, defense".

I don't know if you watch the postgame coverage on Sun Sports with the Spoelstra press conferences but this is always mentioned and was mentioned tonight too: "I keep telling the guys, we need to learn to just continue to grind games out defensively."

Hey you know what, the whole 'grind it out' mentality was great for last years team as it gave them the best shot at winning but that is not the case for this team. I'm sick of hearing that we have to win ugly or win a grind it out game.

[Tim_Hardawayy]

I'd feel a lot better about our coach if he just came out and said we need to work on the offense for a change. But instead its always "defense, defense, defense".

I don't know if you watch the postgame coverage on Sun Sports with the Spoelstra press conferences but this is always mentioned and was mentioned tonight too: "I keep telling the guys, we need to learn to just continue to grind games out defensively."

Hey you know what, the whole 'grind it out' mentality was great for last years team as it gave them the best shot at winning but that is not the case for this team. I'm sick of hearing that we have to win ugly or win a grind it out game.

I saw it, and it makes me sick. The parallels between Spo and Wannstedt are obvious and make me depressed as a fan, because I've never been so depressed over a consistent 9-11 win playoff team as I was with the Dolphins when Dave was there.

In a way, Pat is almost like Jimmy in this case.. was the mentor, set the team up for him, and handed it over to him. And while Jimmy and Pat both had defensive backgrounds, they understood how to coach flashy offense as well. But Dave and Erik, well, they're just not head coach material... they can try to cling to the defensive philosophies, but don't have a clue how to get the offense to perform.

At least in this case, we know there's still a chance Pat comes back and the talent level is a bit higher. Those Dolphins teams were never that offensively talented (although part of the blame falls on the front office for over emphasizing defense) and Jimmy was definitely gone for good when he left. Pat Riley's a better coach than Jimmy, anyways.

But damn, its just a shame. I have this sick feeling in my gut like I just know we won't go anywhere with Erik as our coach.

Both of these coaches want to have their teams play "not to lose", rather than play to win. And I hate it. Because what it really boils down to, is coaching "not to get fired".

[nonemus]

Honestly, all those people who are sporting the Fire Spo sigs should hyperlink the images to the http://www.firespo.com site.

This can be done by inserting the following code in your sig:

Code: Select all

[url=http://firespo.com/][img]http://pictures.picasion.com/pic33/43834b41ddb564d04da77b9893f9fb9f.gif[/img][/url]

It should look like this:

[Miami's Finest]

If you get a chance read the Israel Gutierrez article in the herald today about Spo making excuses. (http://www.miamiherald.com/2010/11/14/1925133/heat-not-doing-much-to-lessen.html)

And maybe that's the problem at this early stage. All the talk of the Heat's development being this long process -- the estimates getting longer every time you ask how long it might take -- seems to have seeped into the team's mentality.

It's almost becoming a self-fulfilling prophecy. If you keep saying it's going to take long, then you're convincing yourself that it can't come quicker. It's practically a built-in excuse, and one you figure is eating up Heat president Pat Riley.

Riley never believed in settling. Never believed in that phrase ``pick your poison,'' because he wanted his team to stop everything the opposition did.

He once compared Eddie Jones and Brian Grant to John Stockton and Karl Malone because he was convinced he could make a championship caliber team around those two.

He had high standards and held himself and his team to them.

This Heat team started the season with the highest standard any newly assembled team in NBA history has ever had. And, yet, early struggles have Dwyane Wade joking that they're the best 5-4 team in the league after the loss to Boston.

Riley used to have a simple answer to scenarios like this.
Do better. Play harder. Make something happen. No excuses.

[DWadeno3]

If you get a chance read the Israel Gutierrez article in the herald today about Spo making excuses. (http://www.miamiherald.com/2010/11/14/1925133/heat-not-doing-much-to-lessen.html)

And maybe that's the problem at this early stage. All the talk of the Heat's development being this long process -- the estimates getting longer every time you ask how long it might take -- seems to have seeped into the team's mentality.

It's almost becoming a self-fulfilling prophecy. If you keep saying it's going to take long, then you're convincing yourself that it can't come quicker. It's practically a built-in excuse, and one you figure is eating up Heat president Pat Riley.

Riley never believed in settling. Never believed in that phrase ``pick your poison,'' because he wanted his team to stop everything the opposition did.

He once compared Eddie Jones and Brian Grant to John Stockton and Karl Malone because he was convinced he could make a championship caliber team around those two.

He had high standards and held himself and his team to them.

This Heat team started the season with the highest standard any newly assembled team in NBA history has ever had. And, yet, early struggles have Dwyane Wade joking that they're the best 5-4 team in the league after the loss to Boston.

Riley used to have a simple answer to scenarios like this.
Do better. Play harder. Make something happen. No excuses.

That's basically what I think.

[AllBall]

Article is spot on.

[ssenbonzakura]

Article is spot on

[nonemus]

Article is spot on

you forgot the last end bracket in your sig....

[Iputsomepantson]

Yeah the article is great. I like the fact that he talks about the effort of this team and how it compares to Boston's effort. Boston has never been criticized for their effort, nor have the Lakers in the Gasol-Bryant era, but Spoelstra's team has repeatedly showed a lack of effort. That's not on the players, that's on the coach for not holding them accountable and making them want to achieve greater things. The players don't have faith in Spo's ability to lead them to greatness, he's just a guy along for the cruise in their boat.

[Guardia]

Spoelstra wont be coaching the christmas game in La.

[Flash3]

Spoelstra wont be coaching the christmas game in La.

I beg to differ.

"Pat Riley isn’t returning to the bench, because that would be a sign of panic. Greatness doesn’t panic."

[Miami's Finest]

Yeah the article is great. I like the fact that he talks about the effort of this team and how it compares to Boston's effort. Boston has never been criticized for their effort, nor have the Lakers in the Gasol-Bryant era, but Spoelstra's team has repeatedly showed a lack of effort. That's not on the players, that's on the coach for not holding them accountable and making them want to achieve greater things. The players don't have faith in Spo's ability to lead them to greatness, he's just a guy along for the cruise in their boat.

Exactly, perfect example was in his postgame speech vs. Boston. He should have flat out told them the effort was unacceptable. But all he did was say not to worry its a process.

[WD]

I'd feel a lot better about our coach if he just came out and said we need to work on the offense for a change. But instead its always "defense, defense, defense".

I don't know if you watch the postgame coverage on Sun Sports with the Spoelstra press conferences but this is always mentioned and was mentioned tonight too: "I keep telling the guys, we need to learn to just continue to grind games out defensively."

Hey you know what, the whole 'grind it out' mentality was great for last years team as it gave them the best shot at winning but that is not the case for this team. I'm sick of hearing that we have to win ugly or win a grind it out game.

We have too much talent to "grind out games" these are the statements that make it so hard to defend this guy.

[Tim_Hardawayy]

I keep thinking back to the last couple seasons, how everyone would complain that we're not working on our offense, and the justification would be that we are, but Spoelstra just doesn't mention it as much as he does the defense.

I don't believe that anymore. I honestly think we've put offense on the back burner, and am beginning to question Spoelstra's ability to manage an efficient offense.

Even the past few games despite scoring over 100, if you actually watched the games, you'd see we still run very basic or no offensive sets. We're getting by on pure talent.

Btw, Beasley with another good game (10/16, 4/7 from the line, 25 points, 4 boards, 3 assists, 1 steal, 1 block). He still isn't rebounding (though next to Love it'll be tough), but his efficiency is staying hot. Even if he never becomes the all-around player we tried to make him into, if he stays efficient on offense, it'll be clear to me we misused him.

[nonemus]

Even on the defensive side of things, it's been subpar against good teams. [except Orlando]