Official Off-Season Trade/Rumor Thread 2.0

[DWadeno3]

This locker room cancer thing is so blown out of proportion. Rio used to smoke with Beas is he a locker room cancer??Rashard got caught doping is a cheater who takes short cuts the type of guy we want on our team?? Wades gotten better off ball but his jump shooting and free throw shooting hasnt improved despite multiple years of off season promises is that type of work ethic the kind we want on our team?? Haslem got caught with marijuana a few years ago is that the type of guy we want around our young guys like Cole and Oden??

Its crazy how once the media creates an idea of your reputation its damn near impossible to change it.


I'll always wish the best for Beas from him dropping 28 on the knicks and cheering on the floor after driving his first charge.Hes a young kid who got caught with weed 3 months before the season starts, stop acting like were trying to bring George Zimmerman into the locker room.

The difference is, , Rio, UD, Wade and even Lewis have worked their asses off to be somebody in this league, whereas Beasley has not shown any improvements, whether it's basketball or maturity wise. That's the reason I don't want him on this team.
If he wants to change that reputation, he needs to have a good season. He was with two teams where he could've done anything he wanted, yet he managed to drive himself out of those situations.

[puppa bear]

If Beasley was given the keys to a franchise like Melo was he COULD have turned out like Melo is now, or more likely a Rudy Gay level player with more of a post game. Miami had a plan for him, and it didn't work out ... for either side. Beasley is now a tweener floating around the NBA & Miami had to salary dump a #2 pick.

People pointing out all the player we could have got are fooling themselves. Beasley was #1-2 material right up until Rose had a breakout tourney, then it became Rose-Beasley.

[NorrisColeWorld]

This locker room cancer thing is so blown out of proportion. Rio used to smoke with Beas is he a locker room cancer??Rashard got caught doping is a cheater who takes short cuts the type of guy we want on our team?? Wades gotten better off ball but his jump shooting and free throw shooting hasnt improved despite multiple years of off season promises is that type of work ethic the kind we want on our team?? Haslem got caught with marijuana a few years ago is that the type of guy we want around our young guys like Cole and Oden??

Its crazy how once the media creates an idea of your reputation its damn near impossible to change it.


I'll always wish the best for Beas from him dropping 28 on the knicks and cheering on the floor after driving his first charge.Hes a young kid who got caught with weed 3 months before the season starts, stop acting like were trying to bring George Zimmerman into the locker room.

The difference is, , Rio, UD, Wade and even Lewis have worked their asses off to be somebody in this league, whereas Beasley has not shown any improvements, whether it's basketball or maturity wise. That's the reason I don't want him on this team.
If he wants to change that reputation, he needs to have a good season. He was with two teams where he could've done anything he wanted, yet he managed to drive himself out of those situations.

The last time Beasely was healthy and getting starters minutes was 2010-11 and he dropped 19/5/2 on 45% from the floor and 36% from three.

He also had a PER of 17.2 higher than every Heat player besides the Big 3 and Birdman.

It's hard for some guy to find the right situation for them, it took Z-Bo years of going through what Beasely is going through before he found the perfect situation for him.

[SmushedPennies]

The idea that Beasley would have a pernicious affect on the lockerroom is insane. He's a goofball, but no one player is going into there and swaying the collective character. I wanted him back last offseason, now...I don't know. I like the kid, but I'm losing faith he can be a successful rotation player.

Absolutely floored I'm seeing support for signing SJax. Are those of you aware of why he left SA? He's not even good enough for that headache anymore.

I can't imagine anything more humbling than getting cut from a team that went to a G7 in the NBA Finals where you hypothetically could have been what tipped the sides onto their favor.

Also this isnt the type of "headcase" where he fights team mates,gets a ton of techs, or he has legal issues.The dude loves basketball and felt like he could contribute and didnt like riding the bench.I can respect a guy who as one of the 500 or so best players in the world has a problem with not seeing any court time while he can still help a team.

He doesnt want to start or put up numbers, he just wants to be able to come in and get his 10 15 min a game and get to compete.

Still not getting it...Where are these 10-15 minutes coming from? Mike Miller requested a trade midseason because we couldn't get him minutes. You really want to promise a guy 10-15 mins a night who might go AWOL if he's gone away from in the rotation? You know Spo. Everyone outside of the Big 3, Rio, and Ray is susceptible to falling out of the rotation for stretches.

[homecourtloss]

Rio plays defense, can knock down the 3.

Remind me what Beasley will do that could positively affect our squad?
Heat are known for DEFENSE. something Beasley isn't known for.


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Our line up of D Wade/Bosh and the bench get outscored by 4.8 points per 100 possessions. Beasley could help with scoring punch off the bench so we don't have our leads trimmed half the time LeBron hits the bench.

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I know this is slightly tangential here, but the fact that Wade/Bosh were often being outscored by 2nd units is just horrible. I feel confident that Spo/Riles have a plan to better utilize Bosh in these situations because Bosh against 2nd units (for a good chunk of those early 2nd quarter minutes) should.be hugely in our favor. I think we'll see Bosh play more minutes since I think he'll enter games earlier in the 2nd than he often did last year.

[plowking]

I'd love to know how Beasley would somehow break this team down from the inside and how hes a terrible locker room presence. Hes a kid, and from the looks of it (since none of us know), the Heat locker room seems easy going, and gets serious when they need to. As far as the bad defender thing, we already have a few on our team, and they do fine getting minutes.

Hes a chucker? So what. Every team needs one. They are sparks off the bench. We really don't have anyone that can create for themselves off the bench apart from Cole at times. Another young player to provide some youth and energy wouldn't be a bad thing.

Apart from Beasley, I wouldn't mind looking at Maggette. He's still a free agent and can give some offense off the bench too.

[twozeroMM]

Well it's official, the Arizona Sports Page says the Suns will release Beasley. I would personally love Beasley back in Miami. I know most are thinking about defense but I think he'll actually put in effort due to our roster now. So sign me up for Beas, bring him back home Pat.

[orangeparka]

Beasley's just not that good... His "scoring ability" is overrated. He can get hot with his jumper, but that's it. He's a decent finisher but just a bad ball-handler and he's not very quick. He doesn't have a post game either and really hasn't improved at all since coming in, the way I see it.

Maybe if he were developed better as a stretch four, and worked on defense and rebounding. Honestly as a four, his weaknesses are actually advantages (good handles, quickness, jumper for a 4) but his defense and rebounding are too weak to actually play him there.

[Mundo]

Beasley's just not that good... His "scoring ability" is overrated. He can get hot with his jumper, but that's it. He's a decent finisher but just a bad ball-handler and he's not very quick. He doesn't have a post game either and really hasn't improved at all since coming in, the way I see it.

Maybe if he were developed better as a stretch four, and worked on defense and rebounding. Honestly as a four, his weaknesses are actually advantages (good handles, quickness, jumper for a 4) but his defense and rebounding are too weak to actually play him there.

For some reason, Beasley always seemed to shut down David West when he played against him. Maybe bring him back as a West stopper.

[HIF]

Bring Beasley home Riles.

[weouthere]

oh yall wouldn't take Michael Beasley for the minimum? ooooooooh ok cool

Wow.. Who gives a **** how much we sign him for? He won't fit for the team, I wouldn't wanna get him even if he was free.
I don't get what's so hard to comprehend? It's not about monetary value but about cohesion, defense, and a solid locker room guy.

Beasley's game negatively affects us imo so regardless of how much of a discount we could possible get him at, WE SHOULDN'T SIGN HIM.
**** this isn't rocket science.


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You're way too emotional, chill

Locker room cancer, bad guy blah blah, he smokes weed. Mad people do, I don't care.

He can ball, this team is full of vets who may have great influence on him. The kid might finally get it. I'd take the risk

[BIRDMAN BIRDMAN]

Bring Beasley home Riles.

But.....but......but.......he'll single-handedly destroy a locker room of a back-to-back championship team! It's not like LeBron, Wade, Bosh, Zo, Timmy, Juwan, Riles exists around the team or something.

[DWadeno3]

This locker room cancer thing is so blown out of proportion. Rio used to smoke with Beas is he a locker room cancer??Rashard got caught doping is a cheater who takes short cuts the type of guy we want on our team?? Wades gotten better off ball but his jump shooting and free throw shooting hasnt improved despite multiple years of off season promises is that type of work ethic the kind we want on our team?? Haslem got caught with marijuana a few years ago is that the type of guy we want around our young guys like Cole and Oden??

Its crazy how once the media creates an idea of your reputation its damn near impossible to change it.


I'll always wish the best for Beas from him dropping 28 on the knicks and cheering on the floor after driving his first charge.Hes a young kid who got caught with weed 3 months before the season starts, stop acting like were trying to bring George Zimmerman into the locker room.

The difference is, , Rio, UD, Wade and even Lewis have worked their asses off to be somebody in this league, whereas Beasley has not shown any improvements, whether it's basketball or maturity wise. That's the reason I don't want him on this team.
If he wants to change that reputation, he needs to have a good season. He was with two teams where he could've done anything he wanted, yet he managed to drive himself out of those situations.

The last time Beasely was healthy and getting starters minutes was 2010-11 and he dropped 19/5/2 on 45% from the floor and 36% from three.

He also had a PER of 17.2 higher than every Heat player besides the Big 3 and Birdman.

It's hard for some guy to find the right situation for them, it took Z-Bo years of going through what Beasely is going through before he found the perfect situation for him.

Empty stats on a 17 win team with miserable win shares don't mean much to me. It only goes to prove that his production isn't worth a thing.

[Heat_Fan_87]

kyler

RT @suuiluap: what's next for Stephen Jackson? ---> heard he was talking with Miami.. they have 14 guys, 13 with guarantees

[weouthere]

kyler

RT @suuiluap: what's next for Stephen Jackson? ---> heard he was talking with Miami.. they have 14 guys, 13 with guarantees

If we get Stephen. Yuuuup

I also think we need another big, just in case.... Oden...

[Heat_Fan_87]

Spurs had to release jackson right before the playoffs because he was unhappy with his play time.

[xMADEinDADEx]

oh yall wouldn't take Michael Beasley for the minimum? ooooooooh ok cool

Wow.. Who gives a **** how much we sign him for? He won't fit for the team, I wouldn't wanna get him even if he was free.
I don't get what's so hard to comprehend? It's not about monetary value but about cohesion, defense, and a solid locker room guy.

Beasley's game negatively affects us imo so regardless of how much of a discount we could possible get him at, WE SHOULDN'T SIGN HIM.
**** this isn't rocket science.


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You're way too emotional, chill

Locker room cancer, bad guy blah blah, he smokes weed. Mad people do, I don't care.

He can ball, this team is full of vets who may have great influence on him. The kid might finally get it. I'd take the risk

Have you ever seen Beasley play in your life? He cannot ball. He has potential, and takes ill advised shots.
It's hard not being emotional when some of y'all type the dumbest **** and then argue nonstop as if you're right.

Beasley can't play defense, takes ill advised shots, doesn't rebound well for someone his size, has questionable determination.. His off court antics are just the cherry on the top.


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[xMADEinDADEx]

Lol @ every team needs a chucker. Smh

We lead the league in fg 2 years ago and I'm sure we were high up on the list this past season as well..
We need players who compliment wade, bosh and bron, not some ransoms and make up stupid ass **** like he can ball or his the team needs his chuckin abilities as if it would help the team more lmao

Maybe if he played defense I'd take a shot at him even with his ill advised shot selection..but here on planet earth, Beasley = no bueno, at least to this miami heat team and the way we're constructed.


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[weouthere]

Wow.. Who gives a **** how much we sign him for? He won't fit for the team, I wouldn't wanna get him even if he was free.
I don't get what's so hard to comprehend? It's not about monetary value but about cohesion, defense, and a solid locker room guy.

Beasley's game negatively affects us imo so regardless of how much of a discount we could possible get him at, WE SHOULDN'T SIGN HIM.
**** this isn't rocket science.


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You're way too emotional, chill

Locker room cancer, bad guy blah blah, he smokes weed. Mad people do, I don't care.

He can ball, this team is full of vets who may have great influence on him. The kid might finally get it. I'd take the risk

Have you ever seen Beasley play in your life? He cannot ball. He has potential, and takes ill advised shots.
It's hard not being emotional when some of y'all type the dumbest **** and then argue nonstop as if you're right.

Beasley can't play defense, takes ill advised shots, doesn't rebound well for someone his size, has questionable determination.. His off court antics are just the cherry on the top.


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Again you on here actin all emo like a lil bitch.

I believe that given the right situation certain players can turn it around. The kid smokes weed and likely has some emotional issues but a the other talk of him being a cancer is overreaction.

He wouldn't worry me at all on this team, he acts up he won't get played, simple.

[heat4life]

Besides the basketball reasons and off the court issues, the last two pages on this thread is another reason why I wouldn't want Beasley back on the team. Gives me flashbacks of the Beasley lovers prior 2010.

Can you imagine the irrational posting if Bosh has a bad nigh? Haslem? Bird? Oden? Even Joel - who I think would play ahead of Beasley in this fantasy scenario - would get chewed to death!

"Beasley has talent", "is only weed", "Pat Riley, LeBron or Wade will keep him in line". Really? Are we, the champions, that desperate that would want to get into all the extracurricular stuff Beasley brings to the table? Has he shown anything to warrant hiring a full time nanny like Phoenix did? (which didn't work by the way). You saw how hard Minny worked to resign him last off-season. I mean, he is such a game changer that he's about to be dumped for the 3rd time in his short career. Let's bring that on-board.

Sometimes I wonder if Beasley is the only high around here