Miami Heat Regular Season/Speculation Thread 2021 Part 3

[AirP.]

Ethan just stated that MRI didn't show any NEW injury however Dipo is still having pain in his knee.

From personal experience MRI do not reveal everything. An injury can be blocked from view in an MRI. Sometimes they need to go inside and look.

Not getting a significant answer can be worse than finding a new injury. Because you can't fix something you do not know.

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I'm listening to Ethan and Ira this morning talk on their radio show, so this is what I think is going on.

- Oladipo felt pain/discomfort and wants to find out why which ultimately will decide when he plays again.

- Nothing bad showed up on the x-ray or MRI but there could be things those 2 may have missed which is why Oladipo is going to a specialist for a second opinion.

- Seems that Oladipo "could" play at anytime with whatever pain/discomfort he has, but Oladipo wants a second opinion on what that pain/discomfort actually is. My guess, Miami is ok saying it's scar tissue, Oladipo's side wants to be sure with another opinion since he's not under contract next season. Ira mentioned a possible small surgery to clean up some scar tissue if that's the issue for pain/discomfort. Could play after the 4 game roundtrip, might shut it down or basically anything in-between. I think it's more of one of the extremes of coming back somewhat quickly or it being a long time.

- On retaining Oladipo, the more realistic contract off came from IRA saying 3 years around 20 mil per with the 3rd year only guaranteed based in games played in the previous season. Oladipo's current contract was signed in OKC at 4 years 21 mil per.

- Sounds like Oladipo playing again is all on him. He has to think about his long term career and impending free agency and also making Miami happy who he wants to be retained by. If Oladipo were signed for one more season rather then being a free agent, I think he'd be way better with coming back sooner.

[MettaWorldPanda]

Would have loved for Oladipo to work. He came at such a low cost that we can't really complain. Most likely we were going to let KO walk in the offseason anyway. The pick swap was the only real loss but whatever. Keeping Nunn throughout the entire ordeal as the insurance policy was one of the better non moves we made. Our main crutch all season has been in the low post. If Dedmon can give us anything down there this team will be in a good spot. Okpala coming back could also prove to be another sneaky addition at least defensively on the wings. We have a motivated Nunn playing for a big contract. I think we can still make some noise in the playoffs. Maybe not as loud as last year but make it interesting.

[AirP.]

Would have loved for Oladipo to work. He came at such a low cost that we can't really complain. Most likely we were going to let KO walk in the offseason anyway. The pick swap was the only real loss but whatever. Keeping Nunn throughout the entire ordeal as the insurance policy was one of the better non moves we made. Our main crutch all season has been in the low post. If Dedmon can give us anything down there this team will be in a good spot. Okpala coming back could also prove to be another sneaky addition at least defensively on the wings. We have a motivated Nunn playing for a big contract. I think we can still make some noise in the playoffs. Maybe not as loud as last year but make it interesting.

Right now, Miami has a few options to get "better' this offseason.
- Retain Oladipo if he's ok or will be ok starting next season.
- Kawhi?
- Go after 35 year old Lowry, either sign him straight up or S&T.
- CP3? He "could" opt out of his player option for an extension since he's still playing as a high level player, think Stockton career.
- S&Ts with someone like J.Collins, L.Ball, L.Markkanen, J.Allen
- FA? DeRozan, Drummond, N.Powell, Oubre Jr., Dinwiddie, Schroder

With Miami going after Dinwiddie that shows Miami is looking past this season, Oladipo may have been the best of both worlds getting someone for this season and future.

[MettaWorldPanda]

Would have loved for Oladipo to work. He came at such a low cost that we can't really complain. Most likely we were going to let KO walk in the offseason anyway. The pick swap was the only real loss but whatever. Keeping Nunn throughout the entire ordeal as the insurance policy was one of the better non moves we made. Our main crutch all season has been in the low post. If Dedmon can give us anything down there this team will be in a good spot. Okpala coming back could also prove to be another sneaky addition at least defensively on the wings. We have a motivated Nunn playing for a big contract. I think we can still make some noise in the playoffs. Maybe not as loud as last year but make it interesting.

Right now, Miami has a few options to get "better' this offseason.
- Retain Oladipo if he's ok or will be ok starting next season.
- Kawhi?
- Go after 35 year old Lowry, either sign him straight up or S&T.
- CP3? He "could" opt out of his player option for an extension since he's still playing as a high level player, think Stockton career.
- S&Ts with someone like J.Collins, L.Ball, L.Markkanen, J.Allen
- FA? DeRozan, Drummond, N.Powell, Oubre Jr., Dinwiddie, Schroder

With Miami going after Dinwiddie that shows Miami is looking past this season, Oladipo may have been the best of both worlds getting someone for this season and future.

Oladipo was a risk free move. If he worked out great and if he did not we could easily move on. This recent injury means we could probably retain him super cheap this offseason without a big commitment. Not a bad spot to be in for the Heat. When healthy Oladipo is still a very good player. We polished up Tim Hardaway with cadaver knees when we got him and got some of his best years on the cheap. We could do the same with Dipo.

[AirP.]

Spoiler:

Would have loved for Oladipo to work. He came at such a low cost that we can't really complain. Most likely we were going to let KO walk in the offseason anyway. The pick swap was the only real loss but whatever. Keeping Nunn throughout the entire ordeal as the insurance policy was one of the better non moves we made. Our main crutch all season has been in the low post. If Dedmon can give us anything down there this team will be in a good spot. Okpala coming back could also prove to be another sneaky addition at least defensively on the wings. We have a motivated Nunn playing for a big contract. I think we can still make some noise in the playoffs. Maybe not as loud as last year but make it interesting.

Right now, Miami has a few options to get "better' this offseason.
- Retain Oladipo if he's ok or will be ok starting next season.
- Kawhi?
- Go after 35 year old Lowry, either sign him straight up or S&T.
- CP3? He "could" opt out of his player option for an extension since he's still playing as a high level player, think Stockton career.
- S&Ts with someone like J.Collins, L.Ball, L.Markkanen, J.Allen
- FA? DeRozan, Drummond, N.Powell, Oubre Jr., Dinwiddie, Schroder

With Miami going after Dinwiddie that shows Miami is looking past this season, Oladipo may have been the best of both worlds getting someone for this season and future.

Oladipo was a risk free move. If he worked out great and if he did not we could easily move on. This recent injury means we could probably retain him super cheap this offseason without a big commitment. Not a bad spot to be in for the Heat. When healthy Oladipo is still a very good player. We polished up Tim Hardaway with cadaver knees when we got him and got some of his best years on the cheap. We could do the same with Dipo.

Can't wait till the 2022 draft when people finally realize what Miami gave up in the Oladipo trade, instead of getting someone they wanted at #21-23(in the 2022 draft), they get swapped back 4-7 spots and miss that player. Brooklyn's pick is going to be very close to the last pick in the first round with a full year or Harden, KD, possibly Irving and a better fitting supporting cast.

Still a good trade.

Can't wait till a team gets twice the value out of draft pick by trading the asset of swapping picks and then later just trading the pick also. If you're a team not looking to tank or be horrible, why not get as much value out of the pick as you can.

[jaseda510]

Can't wait till the 2022 draft when people finally realize what Miami gave up in the Oladipo trade, instead of getting someone they wanted at #21-23(in the 2022 draft), they get swapped back 4-7 spots and miss that player. Brooklyn's pick is going to be very close to the last pick in the first round with a full year or Harden, KD, possibly Irving and a better fitting supporting cast.

Still a good trade.

Can't wait till a team gets twice the value out of draft pick by trading the asset of swapping picks and then later just trading the pick also. If you're a team not looking to tank or be horrible, why not get as much value out of the pick as you can.

Is this how the pick swap works? I thought the swap was only between the Rockets own and Heat picks

[AirP.]

Can't wait till the 2022 draft when people finally realize what Miami gave up in the Oladipo trade, instead of getting someone they wanted at #21-23(in the 2022 draft), they get swapped back 4-7 spots and miss that player. Brooklyn's pick is going to be very close to the last pick in the first round with a full year or Harden, KD, possibly Irving and a better fitting supporting cast.

Still a good trade.

Can't wait till a team gets twice the value out of draft pick by trading the asset of swapping picks and then later just trading the pick also. If you're a team not looking to tank or be horrible, why not get as much value out of the pick as you can.

Is this how the pick swap works? I thought the swap was only between the Rockets own and Heat picks

The Houston Rockets today announced they have traded guard Victor Oladipo to Miami in exchange for guard Avery Bradley and forward Kelly Olynyk (O-lin-ick). The Rockets also receive the right to swap first round picks with Miami in 2022, using their own pick or the one owed to Houston by Brooklyn.

https://www.nba.com/rockets/news/rockets-complete-trade-miami

That earlier 2022 pick could have been used to draft for another team in a trade package. It has the potential to be a decent asset to have given up for Oladipo depending on who is still available at that time in the draft.

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Mannnnn many of yall till qnd some till this day wanted to sacrifice all this for Justise Winslow hair

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[IggieCC]

Jimmy is simply the best human being

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It's so weird man lol

[MettaWorldPanda]

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Sounds like Patellar tendinitis or jumper’s knee. He can probably play through the pain but maybe afraid of injuring further with free agency in balance. Supposedly a 4-6 week injury to fully recover from.

[carnageta]

Yimmy is the best thing that has happened to Miami since the Josh McJesus signing.

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Yimmy is the best thing that has happened to Miami since the Josh McJesus signing.

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Yimmy is the best thing that has happened to Miami since the Josh McJesus signing.

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[ThaFranchize84]

So I was wondering who everyone thought would be the perfect realistic player the Heat could get via F/A to go with this starting lineup and play next to Bam. If we kept everyone it would probably be for MLE or less.

Bam
PF
DRob
Dipo
Butler

Herro
Dragic
Precious
Beli
Nunn
KZ

I think the perfect options are guys like O. Porter Jr and D. Theis.


A few other low key great pickups would guys like N. Noel even though he doesn’t give you the floor spacing and JaMachal Green or B. Portis who both are more offensive minded bigs.

I have always also been a fan of moving Butler to the PF spot and signing a true PG.


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