Miami Heat 22-23 Regular Season Thread 2.0

[Shootit]

It sucks we are seeing Bam being that force we all know he can be, yet the team is still under .500 due to other players not living up to what's expected.

[DayofMourning]

You know you're a bball nerd when you look at Bams 86% free throw shooting and you get excited.

[MettaWorldPanda]

Issue is that if he plays well in G league he can easily be poached.

I don't think team will into the luxury tax to sign Johnson. So that means unless we create salary cap space through a trade, team cannot sign him until March or so.

We could easily release Highsmith before his next guarantee kicks in and use those funds and roster spot to sign him if need be. Feel like we have other plans in mind to free up money via trade in the next few weeks. Dec 15th things should start to get interesting.

[3ammy3uck3ts]

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Numbers to go with this:

Bam when taking 18+ shots: 27.9-10.3-3.3 on 58% shooting

Bam when taking 20+ shots: 33.7-10-2.7 on 67% shooting

It’s really not rocket science at this point lol dude puts up Embiid numbers when he shoots 20 shots a game (Embiids average). Now I’m sure that won’t be consistent but if Bam gets the touches and shoots 18-20 shots a game he’s going to average anywhere from 26-30 a night

[MettaWorldPanda]

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Numbers to go with this:

Bam when taking 18+ shots: 27.9-10.3-3.3 on 58% shooting

Bam when taking 20+ shots: 33.7-10-2.7 on 67% shooting

It’s really not rocket science at this point lol dude puts up Embiid numbers when he shoots 20 shots a game (Embiids average). Now I’m sure that won’t be consistent but if Bam gets the touches and shoots 18-20 shots a game he’s going to average anywhere from 26-30 a night

Bam has been absolutely amazing. Could not ask for more at this point. Now I just hope we could get him significant help in the front court in order to give him a breather when he needs it.

[3ammy3uck3ts]

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Numbers to go with this:

Bam when taking 18+ shots: 27.9-10.3-3.3 on 58% shooting

Bam when taking 20+ shots: 33.7-10-2.7 on 67% shooting

It’s really not rocket science at this point lol dude puts up Embiid numbers when he shoots 20 shots a game (Embiids average). Now I’m sure that won’t be consistent but if Bam gets the touches and shoots 18-20 shots a game he’s going to average anywhere from 26-30 a night

Bam has been absolutely amazing. Could not ask for more at this point. Now I just hope we could get him significant help in the front court in order to give him a breather when he needs it.

We’re really a deeper bench and legit starting 4 away from being actual contenders. No way Pat can watch Jimmy and Bam and not want to get the right team around them soon but only time will tell.

I’m looking into the numbers and I’m really curious to see what Bam would average getting the same amount of shots and same amount of love from the refs for free throws as guys like Giannis, Embiid, and AD.

Bam: 15.5 FGA 5.3 FTA with a 26.3 usage

AD: 17.5 FGA 7.5 FTA with a 28.6 usage

Embiid: 20.2 FGA 12.1 FTA with a 37.7 usage

Giannis: 21.5 FGA 12.2 FTA with a 39.0 usage

Pretty solid sample size 25+ games into the season and that’s with Bam having a very slow start to the year. Things could get pretty wild if he starts getting a few more shots and starts getting respect from the officials

[3ammy3uck3ts]

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[3ammy3uck3ts]

Yes I know it doesn’t work like this but just fun to look at, Bams scoring adjusted to AD Embiid & Giannis shot and free throw rates:

AD: 27.3 PPG
Bam: 25.1 PPG

Embiid: 31.9 PPG
Bam: 32 PPG

Giannis: 32.1 PPG
Bam: 33.5 PPG

[twix2500]

Watching this Clipper game, Martin has become a very very good role player. Extremely underpaid, luckily no one believed in him besides the Heat. Hell defenders still don't respect him. They never defend his jumper they just stare at him when he shoots.

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[twix2500]

Watching Clippers game, Spo pair Herro with Oladipo at point. This is a tandem Iv been pounding the table to play together. Even when Vincent return this pairing needs to play together often. If Oladipo legs was trust worthy, Vincent should be a trade pawn.

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[twix2500]

The more I watched this team the more I think its its best to start building for next year. Too many of the right mix of complementary role players missing. I see 3 to 4 moves needed and can't see all of it happening this season. This is including the idea of Jovic and Yurtseven becoming stable rotation players.



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[twix2500]

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[heatwillbeback]

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If team has no intention on giving him regular minutes, just leave him in g league imo. At least he will be playing and hopefully improving.

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If team has no intention on giving him regular minutes, just leave him in g league imo. At least he will be playing and hopefully improving.

This feels like they want him integrating into the team with the intuition for him to play later this year once they feel he's figured some things out or... once there's room (consolidation trade, looking at the cheaper players for next year like Highsmith) but they want him also getting reps against some talent until then, hoping to see the game slow down and get easy for him at the D/G-League level.

[rate_]

He's getting the KZ treatment. Bam/Winslow/Herro as rookies stayed firmly in the rotation. Even rookie Precious got more consistent minutes. And among pre draft versions of these guys, Jovic got more experience playing against grown men in professional leagues than all of them.

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If team has no intention on giving him regular minutes, just leave him in g league imo. At least he will be playing and hopefully improving.

This feels like they want him integrating into the team with the intuition for him to play later this year once they feel he's figured some things out or... once there's room (consolidation trade, looking at the cheaper players for next year like Highsmith) but they want him also getting reps against some talent until then, hoping to see the game slow down and get easy for him at the D/G-League level.

Its more about plays. He needs to learn the plays that Spo wants to utilize. That is why player go to certain g-league teams to learn how to play in the team system. Precious was a failure his rookie season because he could only run two plays. Its not about Jovic skill set but learning how to apply his skill set to the plays Spo wants to use him in.

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[AirP.]

If team has no intention on giving him regular minutes, just leave him in g league imo. At least he will be playing and hopefully improving.

This feels like they want him integrating into the team with the intuition for him to play later this year once they feel he's figured some things out or... once there's room (consolidation trade, looking at the cheaper players for next year like Highsmith) but they want him also getting reps against some talent until then, hoping to see the game slow down and get easy for him at the D/G-League level.

Its more about plays. He needs to learn the plays that Spo wants to utilize. That is why player go to certain g-league teams to learn how to play in the team system. Precious was a failure his rookie season because he could only run two plays. Its not about Jovic skill set but learning how to apply his skill set to the plays Spo wants to use him in.

Right, Jovic already has a solid skill set at this age/size but yes, like almost every young player he has to learn the plays and running them in games/practices helps greatly. The point was why are they yo-yoing him, it feels like they expect to use him later in the season because if they weren't I think you'd leave him in the g-league for much longer chucks of time.

[Beenie]

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Kinda feels like when Mia got Nemanja Bjelica.

Different circumstances but a general neglect of a multi skilled Euro big with defensive limitations, none the less.

[twix2500]

This feels like they want him integrating into the team with the intuition for him to play later this year once they feel he's figured some things out or... once there's room (consolidation trade, looking at the cheaper players for next year like Highsmith) but they want him also getting reps against some talent until then, hoping to see the game slow down and get easy for him at the D/G-League level.

Its more about plays. He needs to learn the plays that Spo wants to utilize. That is why player go to certain g-league teams to learn how to play in the team system. Precious was a failure his rookie season because he could only run two plays. Its not about Jovic skill set but learning how to apply his skill set to the plays Spo wants to use him in.

Right, Jovic already has a solid skill set at this age/size but yes, like almost every young player he has to learn the plays and running them in games/practices helps greatly. The point was why are they yo-yoing him, it feels like they expect to use him later in the season because if they weren't I think you'd leave him in the g-league for much longer chucks of time.

I think its a mixture of injuries and curiosity like many fans. But they did say the plan was g-league for him at the end of preseason. Personally I thought it has been a mistake how they are moving him back and forth. At the very least the first two months he should of stayed in the g-league.

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[carnageta]

Yes I know it doesn’t work like this but just fun to look at, Bams scoring adjusted to AD Embiid & Giannis shot and free throw rates:

AD: 27.3 PPG
Bam: 25.1 PPG

Embiid: 31.9 PPG
Bam: 32 PPG

Giannis: 32.1 PPG
Bam: 33.5 PPG

He honestly has all the tools to average 24-25ppg a night this season.

It's all on Spo at this point. Bam has made it known both vocally and through his play on the court that he's willing and capable of being the volume scorer that they need. In all previous scenarios similar to this throughout the past 3 years, Spo has always forced the team to return to the mean in terms of how the offense runs - which is sharing the rock equally and ensuring our d-league affiliates get their shots up.

Hopefully this time it's different.