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Post#281 » by wadenation305 » Thu Oct 31, 2024 1:04 pm

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They give us two of their picks. In each of those years, they have a pick from another team which will likely be much better than their own, so it shouldn't be too hard for them to release those. They have a glut of SFs on the roster. We take Dillion, they have Cam Whitmore who has shown more than Amen. So we take a chance on Amen. IDK if it can be done, and we would also need to loop someone in to dump some of our people on there or reroute some players from this trade for some more picks
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Post#282 » by Dmcdani6 » Thu Oct 31, 2024 1:09 pm

Im with AirP, I think Jimmy has been silently quitting/protesting for awhile now.

He almost seems disinterested, which is concerning. Or maybe he knows something? His play is off to
Me.

Bam will be fine. Im guessing hes a bit tired from all the hooping this year.

I think patience is key W/ Jovic. Hes not some star, but hes not as bad as ppl say be is.

Tyler is who he is. Im ok w/ Tyler. Just watching the games, Rozier is blaaah at best. Not a fan
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Post#283 » by MettaWorldPanda » Thu Oct 31, 2024 1:09 pm

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Highly doubt we get Amen in this deal. Keep in mind anybody dealing for Butler most likely comes with having to extend him or risk him either opting out or playing on a one year deal. Don't have a ton of leverage to be asking for blue chip young prospects for a 35 year old player on the downside looking for big money that takes him into his age 38 year.
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Post#284 » by MettaWorldPanda » Thu Oct 31, 2024 1:19 pm

The Spurs could also be a good option for Jimmy and thinking matching him up with Pop and Paul for a run with Wemby might not be such a bad idea. Keldon Johnson who's friends with Herro could be a good fit. Probably better then getting Dillon Brooks from the Rockets. Spurs also have a stupid abundance of picks to play around with. Johnson, Sochan, and Collins could be a basis of a deal with picks that could work for both us and the Spurs.
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Re: 2024-25 Regular Season Thread Vol. 1 

Post#285 » by wadenation305 » Thu Oct 31, 2024 1:21 pm

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Highly doubt we get Amen in this deal. Keep in mind anybody dealing for Butler most likely comes with having to extend him or risk him either opting out or playing on a one year deal. Don't have a ton of leverage to be asking for blue chip young prospects for a 35 year old player on the downside looking for big money that takes him into his age 38 year.


Most likely, but not a deal breaker to me. Figured with them wanting Jimmy, they know if they would extend him for what he wants before committing to the trade. And that already having Yimmy and Cam (which in my opinion Cam has shown more flashes than Amen) would make Amen redundant and easier to acquire from them in this trade. But if they want to figure something else out where we get one more pick instead. I am all ears lol
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Post#286 » by MettaWorldPanda » Thu Oct 31, 2024 1:24 pm

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Highly doubt we get Amen in this deal. Keep in mind anybody dealing for Butler most likely comes with having to extend him or risk him either opting out or playing on a one year deal. Don't have a ton of leverage to be asking for blue chip young prospects for a 35 year old player on the downside looking for big money that takes him into his age 38 year.


Most likely, but not a deal breaker to me. Figured with them wanting Jimmy, they know if they would extend him for what he wants before committing to the trade. And that already having Yimmy and Cam (which in my opinion Cam has shown more flashes than Amen) would make Amen redundant and easier to acquire from them in this trade. But if they want to figure something else out where we get one more pick instead. I am all ears lol

I've been looking over the Spurs roster and think a better deal could be made with them. Butler would also look good there for the next few years running with Wemby. Keldon Johnson, Jeremy Sochan, and Collins would be good fits here as we transition into a younger developing team.
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Post#287 » by wadenation305 » Thu Oct 31, 2024 2:03 pm

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MettaWorldPanda wrote:Highly doubt we get Amen in this deal. Keep in mind anybody dealing for Butler most likely comes with having to extend him or risk him either opting out or playing on a one year deal. Don't have a ton of leverage to be asking for blue chip young prospects for a 35 year old player on the downside looking for big money that takes him into his age 38 year.


Most likely, but not a deal breaker to me. Figured with them wanting Jimmy, they know if they would extend him for what he wants before committing to the trade. And that already having Yimmy and Cam (which in my opinion Cam has shown more flashes than Amen) would make Amen redundant and easier to acquire from them in this trade. But if they want to figure something else out where we get one more pick instead. I am all ears lol

I've been looking over the Spurs roster and think a better deal could be made with them. Butler would also look good there for the next few years running with Wemby. Keldon Johnson, Jeremy Sochan, and Collins would be good fits here as we transition into a younger developing team.


What type of package are you looking at?
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Post#288 » by MettaWorldPanda » Thu Oct 31, 2024 2:12 pm

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Most likely, but not a deal breaker to me. Figured with them wanting Jimmy, they know if they would extend him for what he wants before committing to the trade. And that already having Yimmy and Cam (which in my opinion Cam has shown more flashes than Amen) would make Amen redundant and easier to acquire from them in this trade. But if they want to figure something else out where we get one more pick instead. I am all ears lol

I've been looking over the Spurs roster and think a better deal could be made with them. Butler would also look good there for the next few years running with Wemby. Keldon Johnson, Jeremy Sochan, and Collins would be good fits here as we transition into a younger developing team.


What type of package are you looking at?


Well it's going to have to start with Keldon Johnson and Zach Collins for starters. Couple of 1st and 2nd's. I was looking into the possibility of Sochan but he's been playing really well for them. Maybe get a PG like Tre Jones who's expiring.

Butler
J Rich
Bryant

for

Keldon Johnson
Zach Collins
Tre Jones
2 1st rd picks
2 2nd rd picks


C Zach Collins C Kelel Ware C Kevin Love
PF Bam Adebayo PF Nikola Jovic PF Keshad Johnson
SF Keldon Johnson SF Jaime Jaquez Jr SF Haywood Highsmith SF Pelle Larrson
SG Tyler Herro SG Alec Burks SG Duncan Robinson
PG Terry Rozier PG Tre Jones PG Dru Smith
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Post#289 » by 3ammy3uck3ts » Thu Oct 31, 2024 2:33 pm

MartyConlonJr wrote:Devils advocate here, but Herro is shooting 0.477 FG%, 0.432 3PT%, and 0.917 FT%, for an eFG% of .600 and a TS% of 0.633.

Jimmy has only once in his career hit a TS% that high and never an eFG% that high. Bam has never hit either efficiency markers.


And I hope he keeps it up, history says he won’t though. Also his TS% was at a career low before last night, that’s how quick things can change here early.

First 6 games last year he averaged 26-6-5 on 45/45/98 shooting splits and we saw how that ended up.
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Post#290 » by 3ammy3uck3ts » Thu Oct 31, 2024 2:34 pm

Pat Riley failed at his job so bad that we now have fans actively looking for Jimmy dumps smfh.
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Post#293 » by MettaWorldPanda » Thu Oct 31, 2024 2:55 pm

3ammy3uck3ts wrote:Pat Riley failed at his job so bad that we now have fans actively looking for Jimmy dumps smfh.

Yup. It's time to dump but then again they always wait a year too late that even puts a player like Butler due to contract and age into somewhat of a dump category. Our front office is behind the times
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Post#294 » by RexBoyWonder » Thu Oct 31, 2024 3:00 pm

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3ammy3uck3ts wrote:Pat Riley failed at his job so bad that we now have fans actively looking for Jimmy dumps smfh.

Yup. It's time to dump but then again they always wait a year too late that even puts a player like Butler due to contract and age into somewhat of a dump category. Our front office is behind the times



Not being able to accept that sometimes you need to go young and rebuild will result in us spending more time then needed on the rebuild phase.

If they didn't want to extend Jimmy, they needed to trade him.

If we're going to be a play-in team year, we better not waste playing time on Bryant, Love, J-Rich and Burks. Speed dial Ware/Larsson and K.Johnson, add a pick in the #5 range instead of in the #13 range.

where is the vision of planing ahead
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Post#295 » by MettaWorldPanda » Thu Oct 31, 2024 3:10 pm

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3ammy3uck3ts wrote:Pat Riley failed at his job so bad that we now have fans actively looking for Jimmy dumps smfh.

Yup. It's time to dump but then again they always wait a year too late that even puts a player like Butler due to contract and age into somewhat of a dump category. Our front office is behind the times



Not being able to accept that sometimes you need to go young and rebuild will result in us spending more time then needed on the rebuild phase.

If they didn't want to extend Jimmy, they needed to trade him.

If we're going to be a play-in team year, we better not waste playing time on Bryant, Love, J-Rich and Burks. Speed dial Ware/Larsson and K.Johnson, add a pick in the #5 range instead of in the #13 range.

where is the vision of planing ahead

It's really sad that I had more fun watching this team during the James Johnson and Dion Waiters years than I do now in this slop of purgatory this organization keeps running with. At the same time this team has totally lost it's HEAT DNA identity of being a tough no nonsense defensive team and is relegated to playing small on a nightly basis with no rhyme or reason. The small ball players can barely even score.
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Post#296 » by al bondiga » Thu Oct 31, 2024 3:47 pm

I think people don't need to worry immediately about bam... Yes he has learned the bad habit of turning the volume up by the END, from JB i guess... I think herro hasn't learned... People don't screw him up that Easily... i think... Herro Just doesn't show the high level of play that bam can display... But on the other hand, can see clearly that bam is not a leader, i think Herro can be... It is A REAL CONUNDRUM what This team. faces

for JB I'm starting to feel sorry since last night, He knows deep inside that his game is not aging well.
And he is trying, I guess.

spo or pat Better do something radical in the next few months though because We are not gelling like a thought We where even though we had Mediocre pieces And a few stars.

In other words, I thought that we Where Good-mediocre...now I think we can only Aspire to be mediocre by the end of the season.
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Post#297 » by 3ammy3uck3ts » Thu Oct 31, 2024 3:50 pm

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Re: 2024-25 Regular Season Thread Vol. 1 

Post#298 » by AirP. » Thu Oct 31, 2024 3:53 pm

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RexBoyWonder wrote:
MettaWorldPanda wrote:Yup. It's time to dump but then again they always wait a year too late that even puts a player like Butler due to contract and age into somewhat of a dump category. Our front office is behind the times



Not being able to accept that sometimes you need to go young and rebuild will result in us spending more time then needed on the rebuild phase.

If they didn't want to extend Jimmy, they needed to trade him.

If we're going to be a play-in team year, we better not waste playing time on Bryant, Love, J-Rich and Burks. Speed dial Ware/Larsson and K.Johnson, add a pick in the #5 range instead of in the #13 range.

where is the vision of planing ahead

It's really sad that I had more fun watching this team during the James Johnson and Dion Waiters years than I do now in this slop of purgatory this organization keeps running with. At the same time this team has totally lost it's HEAT DNA identity of being a tough no nonsense defensive team and is relegated to playing small on a nightly basis with no rhyme or reason. The small ball players can barely even score.


It's almost like they're going 2 different directions(which they've basically done the whole Butler/Miami run), trying to compete while building towards the future. Kinda like a house divided.
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Post#299 » by twix2500 » Thu Oct 31, 2024 4:37 pm

Lineups vs the Knicks 10/31/24

Starting Lineup
Rozier - Herro - Butler - Jovic - Adebayo
18 mins, 100.0 OffRtg, 125.7 DefRtg

Next most played Lineup
Smith - Butler - Jaquez - Robinson - Bryant
6 mins, 100.0 OffRtg, 176.9 DefRtg

Rozier - Herro - Butler - Jaquez - Adebayo
4 mins, 157.1 OffRtg, 157.1 DefRtg

Rozier - Herro - Jaquez - Jovic - Adebayo
4 mins, 142.9 OffRtg, 171.4 DefRtg
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Post#300 » by DayofMourning » Thu Oct 31, 2024 5:41 pm

Shocked that anyone would point at herro. hes been fine.

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