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2025 Offseason Season Thread Vol. 2

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Post#281 » by Beenie » Sun Jun 15, 2025 9:37 pm

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Vertical Limit wrote:I dont even want two firsts for Herro.. ill take one first.. but if someones willing to overpay, it dont even have to be at the level of overpay orlando just made, it would be 2 firsts and its a no brainer

If hornets called, offered brandon miller, nurkic and a top 20 protected first, im sending his ass packing.


You’re not getting Brandon Miller for Herro straight up lol


Can almost certainly get Miles Bridges

Don’t know if I love the fit next to KD hypothetically tho
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Post#282 » by HeatFan_NC » Sun Jun 15, 2025 9:38 pm

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We should! I think he could be a pivotal asset for MIN, SAS, or HOU.
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Post#283 » by MettaWorldPanda » Sun Jun 15, 2025 9:41 pm

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This why need to keep Ware in order to counter this front line with Bam and KD
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Post#284 » by jbsays » Sun Jun 15, 2025 9:47 pm

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This why need to keep Ware in order to counter this front line with Bam and KD


He'll also be on his rookie deal for 4-5 more years. That makes it possible to pay 3 guys $30 million plus a year.
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Post#285 » by MartyCONLONNN » Sun Jun 15, 2025 9:58 pm

feels like a team is going to come our of the blue for KD super similar to Dame
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Post#286 » by Wiltside » Sun Jun 15, 2025 10:06 pm

Sheesh, hell of a haul for Desmond Bane, who is a guy I’ve always liked. He’s a good fit in Orlando, underrated playmaker and can really shoot it.
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Post#287 » by SA37 » Sun Jun 15, 2025 10:08 pm

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This why need to keep Ware in order to counter this front line with Bam and KD


Ware was useless against Mobley/Allen. What makes you think he'd do any better against a more mobile, much better offensive frontcourt?
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Post#288 » by MettaWorldPanda » Sun Jun 15, 2025 10:08 pm

MartyCONLONNN wrote:feels like a team is going to come our of the blue for KD super similar to Dame

I don’t think so. Dame and KD are not similar at all. KD has alot more in common with Butler’s situation. We tried to flex on Butler in the beginning as well. KD and Kleiman i would like to think have a bit more flex than Bernie Lee and Butler. All depends on how ugly Suns want to make this for themselves. Last year rumors came out of Butler to the Grizz as a done deal until Butler came out saying he’s not playing for them.
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Post#289 » by MettaWorldPanda » Sun Jun 15, 2025 10:10 pm

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This why need to keep Ware in order to counter this front line with Bam and KD


Ware was useless against Mobley/Allen. What makes you think he'd do any better against a more mobile, much better offensive frontcourt?

He was just a baby last year. Don’t you believe in kids getting stronger and developing?
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Post#290 » by Wiltside » Sun Jun 15, 2025 10:11 pm

Ware showed plenty in his rookie year. He’s going to be a quality 5 in this league. Just needs to add weight and strength and not lose a lot of his mobility.
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Post#291 » by MettaWorldPanda » Sun Jun 15, 2025 10:17 pm

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Post#292 » by SA37 » Sun Jun 15, 2025 10:17 pm

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This why need to keep Ware in order to counter this front line with Bam and KD


Ware was useless against Mobley/Allen. What makes you think he'd do any better against a more mobile, much better offensive frontcourt?

He was just a baby last year. Don’t you believe in kids getting stronger and developing?


I just don't get what makes you think he's going to make that jump so soon. Outside of a handful of games, Ware was fairly pedestrian and his impact was marginal. It's like all the hype with Jovic who continues to struggle to establish himself as a start or as someone with a major role on the team.

His last 2 months, he averaged ~11 and 10 on ~55fg% and ~25 3pt% with wild swings in his minutes. And he went from ~25-30mpg to 18-20 in the play-in and playoffs v Cavs.

Nothing here makes me think Ware is going to suddenly break out.

Edit: I'll also point out this coincided with Miami's big losing streak. Over these last 2 months, Miami went 8-13.
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Post#293 » by batterybro42 » Sun Jun 15, 2025 10:21 pm

Vertical Limit wrote:I dont even want two firsts for Herro.. ill take one first.. but if someones willing to overpay, it dont even have to be at the level of overpay orlando just made, it would be 2 firsts and its a no brainer

If hornets called, offered brandon miller, nurkic and a top 20 protected first, im sending his ass packing.


Glad you aren’t the GM of the team

Dumb take

Tyler Herro is a far better talent than Mr Olympia Phil Heath with a 3 point jump shot
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Post#294 » by 3ammy3uck3ts » Sun Jun 15, 2025 10:34 pm

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Re: 2025 Offseason Season Thread Vol. 2 

Post#295 » by 3ammy3uck3ts » Sun Jun 15, 2025 10:34 pm

batterybro42 wrote:
Vertical Limit wrote:I dont even want two firsts for Herro.. ill take one first.. but if someones willing to overpay, it dont even have to be at the level of overpay orlando just made, it would be 2 firsts and its a no brainer

If hornets called, offered brandon miller, nurkic and a top 20 protected first, im sending his ass packing.


Glad you aren’t the GM of the team

Dumb take

Tyler Herro is a far better talent than Mr Olympia Phil Heath with a 3 point jump shot


I wish the rest of the league shared your opinion on Tyler.
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Re: 2025 Offseason Season Thread Vol. 2 

Post#296 » by Hoops3355 » Sun Jun 15, 2025 10:35 pm

Wiltside wrote:Ware showed plenty in his rookie year. He’s going to be a quality 5 in this league. Just needs to add weight and strength and not lose a lot of his mobility.


Yurt and Jovic transformations should show that it's coming.



I cannot fathom how low some of you valued Ware. Dude improve extensively and then hit a wall + SPO doing w/e with getting Kyle Anderson reps (the man sometimes can't help his desire to win at our dev expense). That Jovic, Bam, and Ware lineup was excellent in spurts before Jovic got hurt. There's next to no chance we trade him.
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Re: 2025 Offseason Season Thread Vol. 2 

Post#297 » by Wiltside » Sun Jun 15, 2025 10:43 pm

Hoops3355 wrote:
Wiltside wrote:Ware showed plenty in his rookie year. He’s going to be a quality 5 in this league. Just needs to add weight and strength and not lose a lot of his mobility.


Yurt and Jovic transformations should show that it's coming.



I cannot fathom how low some of you valued Ware. Dude improve extensively and then hit a wall + SPO doing w/e with getting Kyle Anderson reps (the man sometimes can't help his desire to win at our dev expense). That Jovic, Bam, and Ware lineup was excellent in spurts before Jovic got hurt. There's next to no chance we trade him.


Imagine we don’t deal Jovic and Ware in this KD deal and can roll out that lineup with KD at the 2.
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Re: 2025 Offseason Season Thread Vol. 2 

Post#298 » by Hallstar » Sun Jun 15, 2025 10:45 pm

SA37 wrote:
MettaWorldPanda wrote:
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Ware was useless against Mobley/Allen. What makes you think he'd do any better against a more mobile, much better offensive frontcourt?

He was just a baby last year. Don’t you believe in kids getting stronger and developing?


I just don't get what makes you think he's going to make that jump so soon. Outside of a handful of games, Ware was fairly pedestrian and his impact was marginal. It's like all the hype with Jovic who continues to struggle to establish himself as a start or as someone with a major role on the team.

His last 2 months, he averaged ~11 and 10 on ~55fg% and ~25 3pt% with wild swings in his minutes. And he went from ~25-30mpg to 18-20 in the play-in and playoffs v Cavs.

Nothing here makes me think Ware is going to suddenly break out.

Edit: I'll also point out this coincided with Miami's big losing streak. Over these last 2 months, Miami went 8-13.

Lol, so who a player is as a rookie, one that showed clear flashes is who they will be the rest of their career? There's really no fan base that's as contrarian on their own prospects as the Heat. A player like Giannis would have never developed here.
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Re: 2025 Offseason Season Thread Vol. 2 

Post#299 » by batterybro42 » Sun Jun 15, 2025 10:55 pm

3ammy3uck3ts wrote:
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Vertical Limit wrote:I dont even want two firsts for Herro.. ill take one first.. but if someones willing to overpay, it dont even have to be at the level of overpay orlando just made, it would be 2 firsts and its a no brainer

If hornets called, offered brandon miller, nurkic and a top 20 protected first, im sending his ass packing.


Glad you aren’t the GM of the team

Dumb take

Tyler Herro is a far better talent than Mr Olympia Phil Heath with a 3 point jump shot


I wish the rest of the league shared your opinion on Tyler.


The Miami Heat clearly do which is why he hasn’t been traded or truly involved in trade talks. Are you going to sit here and with a straight face claim that Desmond Bane is a better basketball player than Tyler Herro?
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Re: 2025 Offseason Season Thread Vol. 2 

Post#300 » by Kobewade11 » Sun Jun 15, 2025 10:57 pm

batterybro42 wrote:The Miami Heat clearly do which is why he hasn’t been traded or truly involved in trade talks. Are you going to sit here and with a straight face claim that Desmond Bane is a better basketball player than Tyler Herro?

Everybody better than Herro to a segment of fans bro dont waste your time going back and forth

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