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Re: Game 1: Miami @ Orlando 10/22 7 PM EST 

Post#281 » by DayofMourning » Thu Oct 23, 2025 1:56 am

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SerialChiller wrote:Spo is a stubborn fool what else is new...
His lack of evolution in his style of coaching boggles the mind. It's always about everyone not his dog house getting a measure of equal playing time even when the game doesn't call for it.

I missed the first half, but everyone in this thread was saying Spo sat Norman even after he had it rolling shooting the ball...and in the 4th up 7 he prematurely axed the lineup that got us there & put Jovic in (who was bad all night).

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The lineups are just science experiments. There has to be some understanding of compensatory skillsets.
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Re: Game 1: Miami @ Orlando 10/22 7 PM EST 

Post#282 » by contract » Thu Oct 23, 2025 1:57 am

Heat_Down_Under wrote:It’s only a 7 game losing streak..

We got the next one. Guaranteed! :nod:
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Re: Game 1: Miami @ Orlando 10/22 7 PM EST 

Post#283 » by fishfuego. » Thu Oct 23, 2025 1:57 am

Enso wrote:Bam gave up some crucial rebounds

Offensive rebounds at that.
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Re: Game 1: Miami @ Orlando 10/22 7 PM EST 

Post#284 » by Sign5 » Thu Oct 23, 2025 1:58 am

Not surprised, this is the same guy that it took 6 games to realize Bibby was a corpse and to start Chalmers over him in the '11 finals but by then it was too late.

He used to be dubbed 'Spobot' circa 2010 but success and winning quelled that moniker a bit. However, whatever you want to rank Spo, the best, 2nd best, 3rd best coach, w.e the dude can be annoyingly stubborn and frustrating to watch.

Heat looked their best and most fluid with Norm/Fontecchio/Ware etc and one little miscue made by Ware and boom he's benched. Bam looked woeful to start last year and then Ware starts next to him and all of sudden he looks like... a formidable POWER FORWARD. Again, despite his plea to play pf spo dismisses his wishes and bam is back to looking discombobulated at times.

Ironically, Heat beat this Magic team last year trotting out jovic at the 3, Bam at 4 and Ware at the 5 and instead of simply re-trying the roster out for some minutes.. spo refuses and goes to his patented small ball lineup where the likes of Wendell Carter can look like Dennis Rodman, as he's facing off against 6-4-6'6 guys on the boards. :noway:
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Re: Game 1: Miami @ Orlando 10/22 7 PM EST 

Post#285 » by Tony15 » Thu Oct 23, 2025 2:02 am

DayofMourning wrote:
Tony15 wrote:
SerialChiller wrote:Spo is a stubborn fool what else is new...
His lack of evolution in his style of coaching boggles the mind. It's always about everyone not his dog house getting a measure of equal playing time even when the game doesn't call for it.

I missed the first half, but everyone in this thread was saying Spo sat Norman even after he had it rolling shooting the ball...and in the 4th up 7 he prematurely axed the lineup that got us there & put Jovic in (who was bad all night).

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The lineups are just science experiments. There has to be some understanding of compensatory skillsets.
Makes sense theoretically, but the experiments are endless with Spo year after year. You can get away with that more I feel if you have KD to pair with Bam/Herro at all times (or the better years, LeBron/Wade/Bosh).

I know it's just Game 1....I merely see the future where I'm ranting about this again by Game 53 lol.

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Re: Game 1: Miami @ Orlando 10/22 7 PM EST 

Post#286 » by Wiltside » Thu Oct 23, 2025 2:03 am

Things I liked:
- Davion Mitchell. He looks like a legit starting PG. Could be in for a breakout year.
- Norman Powell. We’ll need this kind of offensive production with Herro out. He’s a bucket.
- Jaime Jaquez: rediscovering his mojo.

Things I didn’t like:
- rotations. Against a team with size like Orlando, we should’ve seen more of our big lineup.
- Ware being in the shadow realm.
- Minimal opportunity for Larsson. If he isn’t going to get mins with Herro out, it ain’t looking good for him this season.
- If Davion is starting, Ware should replace Jovic. Second unit needs ball handling - get Niko on the second unit initiating. Had zero assists today.
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Re: Game 1: Miami @ Orlando 10/22 7 PM EST 

Post#287 » by Crazy-Canuck » Thu Oct 23, 2025 2:08 am

Story of the game was rebounding.

Can't play wiggs or Jaime at pf against the bigger and stronger magic Frontline.

Jovic need to learn how to box out. I don't care if he can't get a rebound, just as long he boxes out. He only gravitates to freebies.

Bam is so active on the glass, but it's a chaotic active. He needs a stable guy who will just box out. That's the biggest need next to Bam right now. (And spacing).
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Re: Game 1: Miami @ Orlando 10/22 7 PM EST 

Post#288 » by Voltron914 » Thu Oct 23, 2025 2:10 am

SerialChiller wrote:14 minutes for Ware is just ridiculous especially for this matchup.



Spo is like that strict father that wont listen to reason even it benefits the team. if its not on his terms then its a no go. im glad JJJ played well today but rewarded him with being the small ball 4 is not the answer
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Re: Game 1: Miami @ Orlando 10/22 7 PM EST 

Post#289 » by Wiltside » Thu Oct 23, 2025 2:10 am

Crazy-Canuck wrote:Story of the game was rebounding.

Can't play wiggs or Jaime at pf against the bigger and stronger magic Frontline.

Jovic need to learn how to box out. I don't care if he can't get a rebound, just as long he boxes out. He only gravitates to freebies.

Bam is so active on the glass, but it's a chaotic active. He needs a stable guy who will just box out. That's the biggest need next to Bam right now. (And spacing).


It’s one of the reasons why I’m advocating for Ware to start and Niko to be 6th man. Give Bam more assistance against the bigger front line, plus if Mitchell and Powell are going to get most of the on ball reps, it doesn’t make a huge amount of sense having Niko just stand in a corner. He should be facilitating, but he didn’t get a lot of reps today.

Playing in the second unit gives him that opportunity. Dru can pass but he looked shaky at times today.
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Re: Game 1: Miami @ Orlando 10/22 7 PM EST 

Post#290 » by DayofMourning » Thu Oct 23, 2025 2:11 am

Sign5 wrote:Not surprised, this is the same guy that it took 6 games to realize Bibby was a corpse and to start Chalmers over him in the '11 finals but by then it was too late.

He used to be dubbed 'Spobot' circa 2010 but success and winning quelled that moniker a bit. However, whatever you want to rank Spo, the best, 2nd best, 3rd best coach, w.e the dude can be annoyingly stubborn and frustrating to watch.

Heat looked their best and most fluid with Norm/Fontecchio/Ware etc and one little miscue made by Ware and boom he's benched. Bam looked woeful to start last year and then Ware starts next to him and all of sudden he looks like... a formidable POWER FORWARD. Again, despite his plea to play pf spo dismisses his wishes and bam is back to looking discombobulated at times.

Ironically, Heat beat this Magic team last year trotting out jovic at the 3, Bam at 4 and Ware at the 5 and instead of simply re-trying the roster out for some minutes.. spo refuses and goes to his patented small ball lineup where the likes of Wendell Carter can look like Dennis Rodman, as he's facing off against 6-4-6'6 guys on the boards. :noway:


Wasnt that Wendell flexing when he grabbed the board and scored on our center, Davion?
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Re: Game 1: Miami @ Orlando 10/22 7 PM EST 

Post#291 » by al bondiga » Thu Oct 23, 2025 2:15 am

spo... I know you're good... Everybody knows you're good... Please, stubbornness has to stop.
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Re: Game 1: Miami @ Orlando 10/22 7 PM EST 

Post#292 » by twix2500 » Thu Oct 23, 2025 2:23 am

Jovic was pulled because he wasn't executing. I seen teammates yelling at going up and down the court
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Re: Game 1: Miami @ Orlando 10/22 7 PM EST 

Post#293 » by Sign5 » Thu Oct 23, 2025 2:24 am

DayofMourning wrote:
Sign5 wrote:Not surprised, this is the same guy that it took 6 games to realize Bibby was a corpse and to start Chalmers over him in the '11 finals but by then it was too late.

He used to be dubbed 'Spobot' circa 2010 but success and winning quelled that moniker a bit. However, whatever you want to rank Spo, the best, 2nd best, 3rd best coach, w.e the dude can be annoyingly stubborn and frustrating to watch.

Heat looked their best and most fluid with Norm/Fontecchio/Ware etc and one little miscue made by Ware and boom he's benched. Bam looked woeful to start last year and then Ware starts next to him and all of sudden he looks like... a formidable POWER FORWARD. Again, despite his plea to play pf spo dismisses his wishes and bam is back to looking discombobulated at times.

Ironically, Heat beat this Magic team last year trotting out jovic at the 3, Bam at 4 and Ware at the 5 and instead of simply re-trying the roster out for some minutes.. spo refuses and goes to his patented small ball lineup where the likes of Wendell Carter can look like Dennis Rodman, as he's facing off against 6-4-6'6 guys on the boards. :noway:


Wasnt that Wendell flexing when he grabbed the board and scored on our center, Davion?

Lmao yup, I was pretty emotionless the whole game outside some stretches because I know the magic just have our number anyways. However, that play pissed me off because it could've easily been prevented. :banghead:
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Re: Game 1: Miami @ Orlando 10/22 7 PM EST 

Post#294 » by Crazy-Canuck » Thu Oct 23, 2025 2:30 am

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Crazy-Canuck wrote:Story of the game was rebounding.

Can't play wiggs or Jaime at pf against the bigger and stronger magic Frontline.

Jovic need to learn how to box out. I don't care if he can't get a rebound, just as long he boxes out. He only gravitates to freebies.

Bam is so active on the glass, but it's a chaotic active. He needs a stable guy who will just box out. That's the biggest need next to Bam right now. (And spacing).


It’s one of the reasons why I’m advocating for Ware to start and Niko to be 6th man. Give Bam more assistance against the bigger front line, plus if Mitchell and Powell are going to get most of the on ball reps, it doesn’t make a huge amount of sense having Niko just stand in a corner. He should be facilitating, but he didn’t get a lot of reps today.

Playing in the second unit gives him that opportunity. Dru can pass but he looked shaky at times today.


If this is the Mitchell we are getting, I'm 100% with you.

Ware also doesnt have the awareness to rebound at a high level nor box out, but he does have the physical gifts to swallow up those rebounds.

Dru needs his minutes cut until he gets his feel back. I was almost hoping rozier would eat some of those minutes tonight.
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Re: Game 1: Miami @ Orlando 10/22 7 PM EST 

Post#295 » by HeatFanLifer » Thu Oct 23, 2025 2:51 am

DayofMourning wrote:
Tony15 wrote:
SerialChiller wrote:Spo is a stubborn fool what else is new...
His lack of evolution in his style of coaching boggles the mind. It's always about everyone not his dog house getting a measure of equal playing time even when the game doesn't call for it.

I missed the first half, but everyone in this thread was saying Spo sat Norman even after he had it rolling shooting the ball...and in the 4th up 7 he prematurely axed the lineup that got us there & put Jovic in (who was bad all night).

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The lineups are just science experiments. There has to be some understanding of compensatory skillsets.


Spo will get it right by game 14, but by then the team will be playing catchup the whole time.
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Re: Game 1: Miami @ Orlando 10/22 7 PM EST 

Post#296 » by heatwillbeback » Thu Oct 23, 2025 2:56 am

Preseason is meaningless....for the most part.

But going back to last year. This preseason. Today. This team just finds ways to lose close, competitive games.
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Re: Game 1: Miami @ Orlando 10/22 7 PM EST 

Post#297 » by TroubleS0me » Thu Oct 23, 2025 2:58 am

Just finished watching. Yea we had a meltdown in the 4th QTR and liked what I saw from Fontecchio ,Mitchell (12 ast and 1 TO) and Powell. Ware still needs to work on his defensive awareness/positioning.
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Re: Game 1: Miami @ Orlando 10/22 7 PM EST 

Post#298 » by Crazy-Canuck » Thu Oct 23, 2025 3:05 am

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DayofMourning wrote:
Tony15 wrote:His lack of evolution in his style of coaching boggles the mind. It's always about everyone not his dog house getting a measure of equal playing time even when the game doesn't call for it.

I missed the first half, but everyone in this thread was saying Spo sat Norman even after he had it rolling shooting the ball...and in the 4th up 7 he prematurely axed the lineup that got us there & put Jovic in (who was bad all night).

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The lineups are just science experiments. There has to be some understanding of compensatory skillsets.


Spo will get it right by game 14, but by then the team will be playing catchup the whole time.


In the 1H, I think the wiggins foul trouble messed up spos rotations.

Then he got stuck with Wiggins, dru, pelle, fontecchio, and ware for an extended stretch. And during this stretch the offense was run though dru and fontecchio. And the defense was even worse.

In the 2h, I think this was the rotation that spo wanted. He had 2 starters with 3 bench at all times. I think he was staggering Powell and wiggins.

Do you know who the lightest player on the floor was to close the game from either side? It was wiggins (he's 10 lbs lighter than suggs and 2 lbs lighter than mitchell), yet he was the pf banging with Carter and Paolo.

If spo won't play ware or jovic doesnt improve, rebounding will be a problem all year
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Re: Game 1: Miami @ Orlando 10/22 7 PM EST 

Post#299 » by HeatFanLifer » Thu Oct 23, 2025 3:11 am

Crazy-Canuck wrote:
HeatFanLifer wrote:
DayofMourning wrote:
The lineups are just science experiments. There has to be some understanding of compensatory skillsets.


Spo will get it right by game 14, but by then the team will be playing catchup the whole time.


In the 1H, I think the wiggins foul trouble messed up spos rotations.

Then he got stuck with Wiggins, dru, pelle, fontecchio, and ware for an extended stretch. And during this stretch the offense was run though dru and fontecchio. And the defense was even worse.

In the 2h, I think this was the rotation that spo wanted. He had 2 starters with 3 bench at all times. I think he was staggering Powell and wiggins.

Do you know who the lightest player on the floor was to close the game from either side? It was wiggins (he's 10 lbs lighter than suggs and 2 lbs lighter than mitchell), yet he was the pf banging with Carter and Paolo.

If spo won't play ware or jovic doesnt improve, rebounding will be a problem all year


Bam is a PF, if Spo refuses to play him at PF he should be traded. Small ball means nothing during the regular season. Just an easy way to get injuries from players playing out if position. I forgot this aspect of Spo really frustrates me. Go big or go home.
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Re: Game 1: Miami @ Orlando 10/22 7 PM EST 

Post#300 » by Wiltside » Thu Oct 23, 2025 4:17 am

There's a lot of teams playing BIG frontlines at the moment.

How long until we can roll out Ware/Adebayo/Jovic as the 5/4/3?
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