Official "Damn Bam" Adebayo thread

[KingDavid]

Not getting carried away...
http://www.espn.com/nba/news/story?page=080707orlsummerleaguemiachi

Beasley, whose work ethic and off-court focus was questioned in the days before the draft,

Stop it with the Beasley comparisons, please. He always had the talent but never had the focus or work ethic until it was way too late. This is not a problem for bam. He came into the league with a 5.3 body fat percentage. I am not at all concerned with his work ethic or focus.

[Bishop45]

Tristan Thompson didn't have a Bam-like summer league for starters...

Thompson: 10.0 pts | 3.8 trb | 0.5 ast | 0.5 stl | 0.5 blk
Adebayo: 19.0 pts | 10.0 trb | 1.3 ast | 1.3 stl | 2.3 blk

free throw draw power goes to Bam handily:

Thompson: 2.8 fta (55% ft shooter)
Adebayo: 9.3 fta (75% ft shooter)

Bam is better defender, rebounder & offensive player in general. Bam can take the ball from coast to coast and euro the opposing team. His ability to draw fouls are on another level

C'mon

[DWadeno3]

Some here are really getting carried away regarding Adebayo.

Greatest 19 year old I've ever seen.

Thank you, finally somebody who is a bit more realistic in here.

[greg4012]

Bish you're killing me with the Tristan Thompson comparisons.

Bish pls.

The deeper I go, the scarier it gets. They're really similar, I didn't watch/scout TT much in college but I get a sense of why he went at 4

Firstly, Tristan is a solid NBA starter. So, if that's what Bam turns into I won't complain at all.

WIth that said, while Tristan and Bam did have very similar college stats/impact and were used in a similar role at that level, in just about every way Bam is an upgraded version of TT with regards to upside.

Bam is longer than TT (more than 1 inch taller; more than 1 inch more wingspan)

Bam is bigger and stronger with a frame to add more weight naturally (Bam weighs more now than TT does presently, and 16 pounds heavier than when TT was drafted). It's also worth noting that Bam is leaner and less filled out at his current weight than TT is. Bam will easily be a 260+ pound athlete with the same explosiveness he has now.

Bam is more explosive than TT can ever dream to be. Bam has 3.5 inch greater vert than TT. Bam is clearly a quick-twitch athlete with how he moves, changes directions, etc. While TT has some solid feet to switch on P-n-Rs, Bam's athletic profile is greater in this regard. Bam is a true above-the-rim player. I can't say the same for TT. TT isn't displaying monstrous dunks and running the court like Bam.

So, if you want to say Bam is just another version of TT, please specify that he is a longer, stronger, faster, more explosive and agile version of TT.

TT has no discernable jump shot. Too early to tell on Bam, but if the small flashes we have seen can be built upon then that takes him to a whole new level.

In sum, Bam has way too much upside to get stuck on a comparison to TT at this juncture.

[Bishop45]

Bish you're killing me with the Tristan Thompson comparisons.

Bish pls.

The deeper I go, the scarier it gets. They're really similar, I didn't watch/scout TT much in college but I get a sense of why he went at 4

Firstly, Tristan is a solid NBA starter. So, if that's what Bam turns into I won't complain at all.

WIth that said, while Tristan and Bam did have very similar college stats/impact and were used in a similar role at that level, in just about every way Bam is an upgraded version of TT with regards to upside.

Bam is longer than TT (more than 1 inch taller; more than 1 inch more wingspan)

Bam is bigger and stronger with a frame to add more weight naturally (Bam weighs more now than TT does presently, and 16 pounds heavier than when TT was drafted). It's also worth noting that Bam is leaner and less filled out at his current weight than TT is. Bam will easily be a 260+ pound athlete with the same explosiveness he has now.

Bam is more explosive than TT can ever dream to be. Bam has 3.5 inch greater vert than TT. Bam is clearly a quick-twitch athlete with how he moves, changes directions, etc. While TT has some solid feet to switch on P-n-Rs, Bam's athletic profile is greater in this regard. Bam is a true above-the-rim player. I can't say the same for TT. TT isn't displaying monstrous dunks and running the court like Bam.

So, if you want to say Bam is just another version of TT, please specify that he is a longer, stronger, faster, more explosive and agile version of TT.

TT has no discernable jump shot. Too early to tell on Bam, but if the small flashes we have seen can be built upon then that takes him to a whole new level.

In sum, Bam has way too much upside to get stuck on a comparison to TT at this juncture.

Nothing wrong with the TT comparison, I've been saying that all along. It's far more brass than any of the other comparison but not like they're one in the same

So, if you want to say Bam is just another version of TT, please specify that he is a longer, stronger, faster, more explosive and agile version of TT.

This is reaching fam, if Bam had the same season TT had in college he wouldn't be perceived as a reach and likely a top 10 pick over Zach Collins. It's a good comparison for him, we don't need to insult TT to prop him up

I have some hope in Bam's jumper but not going to get carried away

[greg4012]

So, if you want to say Bam is just another version of TT, please specify that he is a longer, stronger, faster, more explosive and agile version of TT.

This is reaching fam, if Bam had the same season TT had in college he wouldn't be perceived as a reach and likely a top 10 pick over Zach Collins. It's a good comparison for him, we don't need to insult TT to prop him up

I have some hope in Bam's jumper but not going to get carried away

I'm not insulting TT at all. Objectively, Bam is longer stronger, more explosive and more athletic. So, while their production and skillsets were very similar coming out of college, I clearly see the higher upside on Bam. Just for an athleticism comparison, go watch HS highlights for each prospect. It's not comparable in regards to flashes of elite athleticism.

But, you say Bam didn't have the same type of college season as TT. I'm not gonna pretend I watched TT's 2011 season at Texas. But, the numbers speak for themselves

TT: 13.1 ppg (17.1 per 40); 7.8 rpg (10.2 per 40); 2.4 bpg (3.1 per 40); 1.3 apg; 1.8 TOV
Bam: 13 ppg (17.3 per 40); 8 rpg (10.6 per 40); 1.5 bpg (2.0 per 40); 0.8 apg; 1.7 TOV

TT: 54.6% fg; 48.7% FT; 53.6% TS; 54.6% efg
Bam: 59.9% fg; 65.3% ft; 62.4% TS; 59.9% efg

TT: 24.2 PER; 112.5 ORTG; 89.3 DRTG
Bam: 22.0 PER; 123.6 ORTG; 95.7 DRTG

Extremely similar types of season IMO. Bam seems to be the more efficient offensive option, while TT was the better rim protector.

Their college impacts were very similar, but Bam has more upside IMO

[Bishop45]

So, if you want to say Bam is just another version of TT, please specify that he is a longer, stronger, faster, more explosive and agile version of TT.

This is reaching fam, if Bam had the same season TT had in college he wouldn't be perceived as a reach and likely a top 10 pick over Zach Collins. It's a good comparison for him, we don't need to insult TT to prop him up

I have some hope in Bam's jumper but not going to get carried away

I'm not insulting TT at all. Objectively, Bam is longer stronger, more explosive and more athletic. So, while their production and skillsets were very similar coming out of college, I clearly see the higher upside on Bam. Just for an athleticism comparison, go watch HS highlights for each prospect. It's not comparable in regards to flashes of elite athleticism.

But, you say Bam didn't have the same type of college season as TT. I'm not gonna pretend I watched TT's 2011 season at Texas. But, the numbers speak for themselves

TT: 13.1 ppg (17.1 per 40); 7.8 rpg (10.2 per 40); 2.4 bpg (3.1 per 40); 1.3 apg; 1.8 TOV
Bam: 13 ppg (17.3 per 40); 8 rpg (10.6 per 40); 1.5 bpg (2.0 per 40); 0.8 apg; 1.7 TOV

TT: 54.6% fg; 48.7% FT; 53.6% TS; 54.6% efg
Bam: 59.9% fg; 65.3% ft; 62.4% TS; 59.9% efg

TT: 24.2 PER; 112.5 ORTG; 89.3 DRTG
Bam: 22.0 PER; 123.6 ORTG; 95.7 DRTG

Extremely similar types of season IMO. Bam seems to be the more efficient offensive option, while TT was the better rim protector.

Their college impacts were very similar, but Bam has more upside IMO

You said Bam was a longer, faster, more agile version than TT, that's implying he's better or was better. The comparison is fine but we don't need to call him a better version just for keep's sake. TT was the better prospect out of college because he was more impactful in the paint (By OREB%, BLK% and FT%) which is relative to where they both will be playing in the league. We're arguing over semantics and you don't find it silly that this rife is over him being compared to TT and being called TT with more upside?

He can't be compared to TT and have similar upside? Has he proven as much, are we discontent because he has?

[greg4012]

This is reaching fam, if Bam had the same season TT had in college he wouldn't be perceived as a reach and likely a top 10 pick over Zach Collins. It's a good comparison for him, we don't need to insult TT to prop him up

I have some hope in Bam's jumper but not going to get carried away

I'm not insulting TT at all. Objectively, Bam is longer stronger, more explosive and more athletic. So, while their production and skillsets were very similar coming out of college, I clearly see the higher upside on Bam. Just for an athleticism comparison, go watch HS highlights for each prospect. It's not comparable in regards to flashes of elite athleticism.

But, you say Bam didn't have the same type of college season as TT. I'm not gonna pretend I watched TT's 2011 season at Texas. But, the numbers speak for themselves

TT: 13.1 ppg (17.1 per 40); 7.8 rpg (10.2 per 40); 2.4 bpg (3.1 per 40); 1.3 apg; 1.8 TOV
Bam: 13 ppg (17.3 per 40); 8 rpg (10.6 per 40); 1.5 bpg (2.0 per 40); 0.8 apg; 1.7 TOV

TT: 54.6% fg; 48.7% FT; 53.6% TS; 54.6% efg
Bam: 59.9% fg; 65.3% ft; 62.4% TS; 59.9% efg

TT: 24.2 PER; 112.5 ORTG; 89.3 DRTG
Bam: 22.0 PER; 123.6 ORTG; 95.7 DRTG

Extremely similar types of season IMO. Bam seems to be the more efficient offensive option, while TT was the better rim protector.

Their college impacts were very similar, but Bam has more upside IMO

You said Bam was a longer, faster, more agile version than TT, that's implying he's better or was better. The comparison is fine but we don't need to call him a better version just for keep's sake. TT was the better prospect out of college because he was more impactful in the paint (By OREB%, BLK% and FT%) which is relative to where they both will be playing in the league. We're arguing over semantics and you don't find it silly that this rife is over him being compared to TT and being called TT with more upside?

He can't be compared to TT and have similar upside? Has he proven as much, are we discontent because he has?

The only implication I made is that there's a good chance he can be better. Everything else is you reading into my posts stuff that isn't there.

Even if Bam's numbers were worse. His stand-out athleticism would have me optimistic about his upside under good coaching

[Heat3]

Not getting carried away...
http://www.espn.com/nba/news/story?page=080707orlsummerleaguemiachi

Beasley, whose work ethic and off-court focus was questioned in the days before the draft,

Stop it with the Beasley comparisons, please. He always had the talent but never had the focus or work ethic until it was way too late. This is not a problem for bam. He came into the league with a 5.3 body fat percentage. I am not at all concerned with his work ethic or focus.

My point is having big games in summer league means nothing. It's almost like evaluating an NFL player in no contact drills.

[FinNasty]

This is reaching fam, if Bam had the same season TT had in college he wouldn't be perceived as a reach and likely a top 10 pick over Zach Collins. It's a good comparison for him, we don't need to insult TT to prop him up

I have some hope in Bam's jumper but not going to get carried away

I'm not insulting TT at all. Objectively, Bam is longer stronger, more explosive and more athletic. So, while their production and skillsets were very similar coming out of college, I clearly see the higher upside on Bam. Just for an athleticism comparison, go watch HS highlights for each prospect. It's not comparable in regards to flashes of elite athleticism.

But, you say Bam didn't have the same type of college season as TT. I'm not gonna pretend I watched TT's 2011 season at Texas. But, the numbers speak for themselves

TT: 13.1 ppg (17.1 per 40); 7.8 rpg (10.2 per 40); 2.4 bpg (3.1 per 40); 1.3 apg; 1.8 TOV
Bam: 13 ppg (17.3 per 40); 8 rpg (10.6 per 40); 1.5 bpg (2.0 per 40); 0.8 apg; 1.7 TOV

TT: 54.6% fg; 48.7% FT; 53.6% TS; 54.6% efg
Bam: 59.9% fg; 65.3% ft; 62.4% TS; 59.9% efg

TT: 24.2 PER; 112.5 ORTG; 89.3 DRTG
Bam: 22.0 PER; 123.6 ORTG; 95.7 DRTG

Extremely similar types of season IMO. Bam seems to be the more efficient offensive option, while TT was the better rim protector.

Their college impacts were very similar, but Bam has more upside IMO

You said Bam was a longer, faster, more agile version than TT, that's implying he's better or was better. The comparison is fine but we don't need to call him a better version just for keep's sake. TT was the better prospect out of college because he was more impactful in the paint (By OREB%, BLK% and FT%) which is relative to where they both will be playing in the league. We're arguing over semantics and you don't find it silly that this rife is over him being compared to TT and being called TT with more upside?

He can't be compared to TT and have similar upside? Has he proven as much, are we discontent because he has?

TT is just a poor comparison IMO, that's all. Athletically, they are different types of players. Not saying Bam > TT... just that they are different and not good comparisons IMO.

[shanedude]

Does Bam play tonight? 4 games in a row would be tough.

[twix2500]

Bishop stil trying to make Bam into something not to be hyped about. LOL

[RJM]

Not getting carried away...
http://www.espn.com/nba/news/story?page=080707orlsummerleaguemiachi

Beasley, whose work ethic and off-court focus was questioned in the days before the draft,

Stop it with the Beasley comparisons, please. He always had the talent but never had the focus or work ethic until it was way too late. This is not a problem for bam. He came into the league with a 5.3 body fat percentage. I am not at all concerned with his work ethic or focus.

My point is having big games in summer league means nothing. It's almost like evaluating an NFL player in no contact drills.

I say this as well, with one caveat--like the way I evaluate prospects, I take a look at HOW a player gets the numbers they do, and from there, I see if it can translate to the NBA. Bam's motor, physique, and skills will do him well in the league, provided he continues to work at what works (as well as what doesn't). His style of play will serve him well within this team's scheme. Activity, skill, and hustle are always rewarded on this team, and Bam does all three.

[dshearn]

we are so blessed to have gotten Bam, its going to be so awesome to watch this 19 year old grow in to his NBA future.

his 29 today was a pretty "cheap" 29. Those calls likely don't happen against NBA starters....but the calls where the calls.....how about the big increase on his FT% over what he did in college!

13-17 from the line, that alone got my boner going.

His shot is smooth looking, he's already showing nice touch. FT% are the best indicator for shooting potential.

A guy his size, his age, shooting in the ~80% FT - that's potential.

A pure backup C they said. Get TJ Leaf they said.

His shot IS so SMOOTH....

That's was boggling.... how could he look that good and slipped down the draft like he did.... its like perfect small ball 5

[dshearn]

Not getting carried away...
http://www.espn.com/nba/news/story?page=080707orlsummerleaguemiachi

Beasley, whose work ethic and off-court focus was questioned in the days before the draft,

Stop it with the Beasley comparisons, please. He always had the talent but never had the focus or work ethic until it was way too late. This is not a problem for bam. He came into the league with a 5.3 body fat percentage. I am not at all concerned with his work ethic or focus.

My point is having big games in summer league means nothing. It's almost like evaluating an NFL player in no contact drills.

Its nothing like that.....

IF you had a TE that was forced to play OT in college, and you got him in to a game and saw that he had naturally soft hands....you might be like....oooo..... thats new....... He has something that shows he can play TE in the pros....

That is EXACTLY what we have here in Bam. We had a physical freak that was put in a tiny box in college. Now we are taking him out of that box.
No one here cares about the numbers, we care about how he LOOKS getting the numbers. These games are important because we never got to see Bam do some of this stuff in college ball....


If your point is that these games don't matter, take that up with the NBA....somebody thinks they have merits. Your fight is not with your fellow Heat fans. We are just here to cheer on our shared team and its newest player.

He is by the way.....outstanding for an end of the lottery pick.

Miami struck gold with Bam.

[SCHeat]

Not getting carried away...
http://www.espn.com/nba/news/story?page=080707orlsummerleaguemiachi

Man, I miss those old Chalmers/Rose battles.

[KingDavid]

This is reaching fam, if Bam had the same season TT had in college he wouldn't be perceived as a reach and likely a top 10 pick over Zach Collins. It's a good comparison for him, we don't need to insult TT to prop him up

I have some hope in Bam's jumper but not going to get carried away

I'm not insulting TT at all. Objectively, Bam is longer stronger, more explosive and more athletic. So, while their production and skillsets were very similar coming out of college, I clearly see the higher upside on Bam. Just for an athleticism comparison, go watch HS highlights for each prospect. It's not comparable in regards to flashes of elite athleticism.

But, you say Bam didn't have the same type of college season as TT. I'm not gonna pretend I watched TT's 2011 season at Texas. But, the numbers speak for themselves

TT: 13.1 ppg (17.1 per 40); 7.8 rpg (10.2 per 40); 2.4 bpg (3.1 per 40); 1.3 apg; 1.8 TOV
Bam: 13 ppg (17.3 per 40); 8 rpg (10.6 per 40); 1.5 bpg (2.0 per 40); 0.8 apg; 1.7 TOV

TT: 54.6% fg; 48.7% FT; 53.6% TS; 54.6% efg
Bam: 59.9% fg; 65.3% ft; 62.4% TS; 59.9% efg

TT: 24.2 PER; 112.5 ORTG; 89.3 DRTG
Bam: 22.0 PER; 123.6 ORTG; 95.7 DRTG

Extremely similar types of season IMO. Bam seems to be the more efficient offensive option, while TT was the better rim protector.

Their college impacts were very similar, but Bam has more upside IMO

You said Bam was a longer, faster, more agile version than TT, that's implying he's better or was better. The comparison is fine but we don't need to call him a better version just for keep's sake. TT was the better prospect out of college because he was more impactful in the paint (By OREB%, BLK% and FT%) which is relative to where they both will be playing in the league. We're arguing over semantics and you don't find it silly that this rife is over him being compared to TT and being called TT with more upside?

He can't be compared to TT and have similar upside? Has he proven as much, are we discontent because he has?

Wait what the ****? A coherent paragraph from bish?!

[KingDavid]

Not getting carried away...
http://www.espn.com/nba/news/story?page=080707orlsummerleaguemiachi

Man, I miss those old Chalmers/Rose battles.

That ankle injury ruined Rio.

Then this achillies injury occurred at the worst possible time in his career. He should be raking money right now. Feel bad for him.

[KingDavid]

Bam is missing his jumpers but the form is smooth and consistent. It looks like he just needs reps to get the feel for distance.

Has he attempted or made any 3s yet?

[Mos_Heat]

You said Bam was a longer, faster, more agile version than TT, that's implying he's better or was better. The comparison is fine but we don't need to call him a better version just for keep's sake. TT was the better prospect out of college because he was more impactful in the paint (By OREB%, BLK% and FT%) which is relative to where they both will be playing in the league. We're arguing over semantics and you don't find it silly that this rife is over him being compared to TT and being called TT with more upside?

He can't be compared to TT and have similar upside? Has he proven as much, are we discontent because he has?

Wait what the ****? A coherent paragraph from bish?!

lmao