Miami Heat Regular Season Thread Vol. Iggy

[AirP.]

PG: Nunn, Dragic
SG: Jimmy, Herro, GV
SF: Robinson, DJJ, KZ, SHill
PF: Bam, Crowder, Haslem
C: leonard, KO, Silva

Not Bad!

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Did we waive Iggy?

Naaaa but can he play right away?

He's going to come off the bench to play defense, he'll have enough offense around him on the 2nd unit with Dragic, Herro, and Crowder. I wouldn't be surprised to see him playing in the next few games(if not in Sacramento), he was expecting to be moved by the trade deadline so he's known to be ready.

[oreon]

Only one bad contract on the team now in Oinkie, amazing. Winslow had to go, he failed here. Bottom line he was a lottery pick and didn't make an all-star game. Caron made it, Wade made it, Bam made it, Herro probably will make it. Beasley is the only other failure.

Dude. He wasn't a top 3 pick. He was the 10th pick, and Winslow is what you expected out of the 10th pick. If you re draft his draft he is 9 - 10 pick. This is not a Michael Bealsy situation. He didn't fail he just didn't overperform as some had hoped he would.

[MettaWorldPanda]

I have always wanted Crowder on this team. Glad we got him. Our perimeter defense has improved over night.

[twix2500]

Give Jimmy some rest and let Nunn and Bam carry the team.

PG: Nunn
SG: Robinson
SF: Crowder
PF: Abedayo
Ce: Olynyk

[oreon]

I’ve let the dust settle on this one. Don’t think I like it.

Bottom line is we gave up the best player in the deal. 2020 cap space doesn’t mean much when we are planning for 2021 anyway, unless we can get big one year commitments from good players.

Basketball wise, it remains to be seen how much Iggy and Crowder will play. Spo has been going 8-9 deep for a while. It adds healthy reinforcements, but are they actually difference makers?

Winslow was 23 and on a team friendly deal. Yes we got out of the JJ and Dion contracts, but as I said, if we were gunning for 2021 they weren’t really that big of a hindrance at this point.

I would’ve understood it and agreed if the Gallinari deal went through. That makes us materially better, and Winslow is unlikely to reach Gallo’s level realistically. That didn’t eventuate though.

Dunno. Jury is out for mine. Initial impression not thrilled.

I agree with you. I think as some have suggested the disagreement between him and FO on his injury may have contributed to him getting traded.

[AirP.]

Only one bad contract on the team now in Oinkie, amazing. Winslow had to go, he failed here. Bottom line he was a lottery pick and didn't make an all-star game. Caron made it, Wade made it, Bam made it, Herro probably will make it. Beasley is the only other failure.

Dude. He wasn't a top 3 pick. He was the 10th pick, and Winslow is what you expected out of the 10th pick. If you re draft his draft he is 9 - 10 pick. This is not a Michael Bealsy situation. He didn't fail he just didn't overperform as some had hoped he would.

Right, 82games did an analysis on draft positions around 10 years ago(2008).

So at a glance you can see the first five picks tend towards stars and solid types with no complete busts.

The 6-10 range show about 1/3 of the picks reaching star status, but lots of role players as well.

The mid first round (11-20) is much more a crap shoot with as many busts as stars.

http://www.82games.com/nbadraftpicks.htm

[oreon]

I have always wanted Crowder on this team. Glad we got him. Our perimeter defense has improved over night.

I'd still would like to get a backup big. Someone like Nene. We need someone who can play 5 to 6 mins against Embiid and not absolutely torched if Bam gets into foul trouble.

[Cmon_Son-_-]

Only one bad contract on the team now in Oinkie, amazing. Winslow had to go, he failed here. Bottom line he was a lottery pick and didn't make an all-star game. Caron made it, Wade made it, Bam made it, Herro probably will make it. Beasley is the only other failure.

Dude. He wasn't a top 3 pick. He was the 10th pick, and Winslow is what you expected out of the 10th pick. If you re draft his draft he is 9 - 10 pick. This is not a Michael Bealsy situation. He didn't fail he just didn't overperform as some had hoped he would.

Based on expectations set by fans he definitely fell way short of that. I remember fans turning down trades of Blake Griffin or Jimmy butler for Winslow as the centerpiece on our side.

Winslow pre draft was getting top 5 hype. He "fell" to 10 and was considered the steal of the draft. I always had him in that 10-15 range but he didnt hold expectations of a guy picked in that range he had higher expectations. Tho I cant talk I wanted Stanley Johnson in that draft lol

[HeatingUp3]

Who are the top free agents this summer and the next one?

[MettaWorldPanda]

I have always wanted Crowder on this team. Glad we got him. Our perimeter defense has improved over night.

I'd still would like to get a backup big. Someone like Nene. We need someone who can play 5 to 6 mins against Embiid and not absolutely torched if Bam gets into foul trouble.

Have to hope Silva is that guy. We committed to him we have to let him play.

[twix2500]

Who are the top free agents this summer and the next one?

Reexplore Danilo, and start negotiating with the Wizards for Beal.

[HEATVols865]

Only one bad contract on the team now in Oinkie, amazing. Winslow had to go, he failed here. Bottom line he was a lottery pick and didn't make an all-star game. Caron made it, Wade made it, Bam made it, Herro probably will make it. Beasley is the only other failure.

When does KO’s deal expire?


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[Bourne85]

Guys Winslow wasn’t cutting it. Maybe if we didn’t have Jimmy, maybe he could’ve done something. But we have Jimmy, Nunn, Dragic, Herro etc all handling the ball, all hitting shots. Justise became expendable, and subsequently was dealt along with Weighters and the supplier.

Besides all that Justise hasn’t even played this year and with Back problems he probably isn’t gonna play this season again. We had 3 THREE guys just sitting on the bench collecting over 40mil. Now we got 2 defensive bodies that can actually contribute.

Bustise OUT

[Wiltside]

Only one bad contract on the team now in Oinkie, amazing. Winslow had to go, he failed here. Bottom line he was a lottery pick and didn't make an all-star game. Caron made it, Wade made it, Bam made it, Herro probably will make it. Beasley is the only other failure.

When does KO’s deal expire?


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Think he has a Player Option for next season. So he could theoretically opt out this summer.

[DayofMourning]

I'm not even going to miss him much if I'm being honest. Maybe it's because we never saw enough. I do remember flipping out when we drafted him. That was a great day. He will likely get healthy and be damn good for Memphis.

Regardless, we have Crowder now and cap space to be a player in the off-season. I know that the only dude is Davis and there's negative chance he's leaving LA but at least we have some financial freedom if a unique opportunity presents itself.

[Umbooki]

Read on Twitter

He tweets in all caps, y’all. Those all-defensive lineups are about to be duuuumb.

[Wiltside]

Only one bad contract on the team now in Oinkie, amazing. Winslow had to go, he failed here. Bottom line he was a lottery pick and didn't make an all-star game. Caron made it, Wade made it, Bam made it, Herro probably will make it. Beasley is the only other failure.

Dude. He wasn't a top 3 pick. He was the 10th pick, and Winslow is what you expected out of the 10th pick. If you re draft his draft he is 9 - 10 pick. This is not a Michael Bealsy situation. He didn't fail he just didn't overperform as some had hoped he would.

Based on expectations set by fans he definitely fell way short of that. I remember fans turning down trades of Blake Griffin or Jimmy butler for Winslow as the centerpiece on our side.

Winslow pre draft was getting top 5 hype. He "fell" to 10 and was considered the steal of the draft. I always had him in that 10-15 range but he didnt hold expectations of a guy picked in that range he had higher expectations. Tho I cant talk I wanted Stanley Johnson in that draft lol

Remember that Caron Butler also had similar pre draft hype. He was supposed to go top 3. Then the Warriors took Mike Dunleavy, and he fell all the way to us at 10.

Winslow was considered a steal, but his stock was dropping closer to the draft. His workouts weren’t as impressive as other guys, which makes sense when you watch him in game. He hasn’t got the pure stroke. He doesn’t have the vert. What he does have is a great feel for the game, passing instincts, defensive intensity and blue collar work ethic. Those things don’t shop up in individual workouts.

While it would be nice if he blew up, bottom line is at pick 10 you are hoping for a long term rotation player with starter potential. He is that. He didn’t get to deliver on it fully here for a multitude of reasons, hoping chapter 2 works out for him. I’ll always be in his corner.

[Zasterror]

ITS NOT A COINCIDENCE THAT BAM AND JIMMY WERE PICKED BY GIANNIS...ya bish

[Spacely]

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He tweets in all caps, y’all. Those all-defensive lineups are about to be duuuumb.

Jimmy
Iggy
Crowder
DJJ
Bam

This is the clamp we need

[Wiltside]

ITS NOT A COINCIDENCE THAT BAM AND JIMMY WERE PICKED BY GIANNIS...ya bish

Oh it’s on.

Bam and Giannis share an agent don’t they?