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Miami Heat Regular Season Thread 21-22 Vol. 1

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Re: Miami Heat Regular Season Thread 21-22 Vol. 1 

Post#301 » by AirP. » Fri Nov 12, 2021 3:22 am

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puppa bear wrote:The thing that gets missed is that we couldn’t just spend that money elsewhere. We only were able to spend that because we had his bird rights. We signed him to a deal that will be tradable and will work as a filler.

When he gets used to this ball he won’t look as bad and he’ll win us a game in a series or two in the PO. Then we’ll all be singing. A different tune.

If not, Pat will ship his arse at the deadline.

Well, if there was a demand for Robinson's services a S&T may have been available since Miami had his Bird rights.

The thing that gets forgotten in this theory is that he would be subject to BYC conditions (http://www.cbafaq.com/salarycap.htm#Q93) and would have only counted as a minimum salary going out. Now we have a Jan 15 trade restriction for him (rather than the usual Dec 15), because he meets the BYC conditions.

We really only could have gotten anything for him if we were a cap team, at which point we couldn’t have gotten Lowry. For both him & Nunn signing either to keep them or to trading them later were really the only options.

Sure, Miami could have taken back small salary of someone they liked and a draft pick or had him in a package, there were some options other than instantly signing him for 90 mil over 5 years.

If he's going to be utilized as filler and maybe somewhat of an asset in a trade I'm fine with that, I'm just not sure that's whats going to happen this season (maybe in the offseason). If Oladipo looks good by this next offseason, he's going to have to be paid and they year after Herro's going to get paid.
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Re: Miami Heat Regular Season Thread 21-22 Vol. 1 

Post#302 » by MettaWorldPanda » Fri Nov 12, 2021 5:30 pm

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He’ll be our backup PG sometime at the end of December. Team will package out Vincent and KZ
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Post#303 » by Bhut Jolokia » Fri Nov 12, 2021 7:56 pm

I wouldn’t worry too much about Duncan’s shooting slump. He is shooting 31.2% 3s with 109 attempts. There are other high volume 3 point shooters that are struggling as well. Lillard is shooting 25.4% 3s at 114 attempts, Jordan Clarkson 23.4% 3s with 111 attempts, Donovan Mitchell 32.2% 3s with 115 attempts, Tatum is shooting 32.9% with 85 attempts, Malik Beasley is at 31.9% with 72 attempts and Brogdon at 28.3% 3s. All much worse than last year
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Post#304 » by MorbidHEAT » Fri Nov 12, 2021 8:03 pm

Bhut Jolokia wrote:I wouldn’t worry too much about Duncan’s shooting slump. He is shooting 31.2% 3s with 109 attempts. There are other high volume 3 point shooters that are struggling as well. Lillard is shooting 25.4% 3s at 114 attempts, Jordan Clarkson 23.4% 3s with 111 attempts, Donovan Mitchel with 32.2% 3s with 115 attempts, Tatum is shooting 32.9% with 85 attempts, Malik Beasley is at 31.9% with 72 attempts. All much worse than last year


Have to consider whether that new ball is a factor..
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Re: Miami Heat Regular Season Thread 21-22 Vol. 1 

Post#305 » by Heat3 » Fri Nov 12, 2021 8:05 pm

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He’ll be our backup PG sometime at the end of December. Team will package out Vincent and KZ


I didn’t realize Trey Mourning played there. And people were going on about Wade signing his son to their g-league team. I guess this is the move.
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Post#306 » by HEATVols865 » Sat Nov 13, 2021 2:44 am

So the NBA is about to hammer us with $10M and a loss of draft picks as well as suspending Riley and Ellisburg?

They can’t stand Miami’s success!


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Post#307 » by SerialChiller » Sat Nov 13, 2021 3:34 am

HEATVols865 wrote:So the NBA is about to hammer us with $10M and a loss of draft picks as well as suspending Riley and Ellisburg?

They can’t stand Miami’s success!


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Post#308 » by Heat_Down_Under » Sat Nov 13, 2021 4:09 am

Bhut Jolokia wrote:I wouldn’t worry too much about Duncan’s shooting slump. He is shooting 31.2% 3s with 109 attempts. There are other high volume 3 point shooters that are struggling as well. Lillard is shooting 25.4% 3s at 114 attempts, Jordan Clarkson 23.4% 3s with 111 attempts, Donovan Mitchell 32.2% 3s with 115 attempts, Tatum is shooting 32.9% with 85 attempts, Malik Beasley is at 31.9% with 72 attempts and Brogdon at 28.3% 3s. All much worse than last year


It’s not so much his shooting the 3 I’m worried about.. he offers nothing else and he’s a foul magnet. Most of the players you mentioned can do a lot more than just shoot the 3.
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Post#309 » by eddieheatfan » Sat Nov 13, 2021 4:20 am

HEATVols865 wrote:So the NBA is about to hammer us with $10M and a loss of draft picks as well as suspending Riley and Ellisburg?

They can’t stand Miami’s success!


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Post#310 » by SerialChiller » Sat Nov 13, 2021 4:28 am

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HEATVols865 wrote:So the NBA is about to hammer us with $10M and a loss of draft picks as well as suspending Riley and Ellisburg?

They can’t stand Miami’s success!


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Post#311 » by eddieheatfan » Sat Nov 13, 2021 4:33 am

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eddieheatfan wrote:
HEATVols865 wrote:So the NBA is about to hammer us with $10M and a loss of draft picks as well as suspending Riley and Ellisburg?

They can’t stand Miami’s success!


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wait what?


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Post#312 » by contract » Sat Nov 13, 2021 5:45 pm

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HEATVols865 wrote:So the NBA is about to hammer us with $10M and a loss of draft picks as well as suspending Riley and Ellisburg?

They can’t stand Miami’s success!


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I doubt anything much happens. They are just making a big show of it. If anything happened it was with the consent of all parties involved.
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Post#313 » by eddieheatfan » Sat Nov 13, 2021 6:50 pm

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eddieheatfan wrote: wait what?


Read on Twitter

I doubt anything much happens. They are just making a big show of it. If anything happened it was with the consent of all parties involved.
hope you are correct
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Post#314 » by AirP. » Sat Nov 13, 2021 8:41 pm

eddieheatfan wrote:
contract wrote:
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Read on Twitter

I doubt anything much happens. They are just making a big show of it. If anything happened it was with the consent of all parties involved.
hope you are correct

In that story it says...

The league could reveal its findings and any penalties in the near future.

To me that wording points to possibly no penalties.

They did throw in what the max penalties that was instituted in 2019 is for teams also...
The NBA instituted more stringent penalties in these cases in 2019, including raising the maximum fine for teams to $10 million and including the possibility of suspending team executives, forfeiting draft picks and even the voiding of contracts. The possibility of the contracts being voided is the least likely scenario if punishment is rendered.


If Miami or Chicago gets hit even semi-hard with penalties, I HOPE EVERY SINGLE TEAM THAT COULD HAVE A GRIPE demands an investigation for anyone they wanted that signs in the first few hours of free agency. Both Miami and Chicago probably had enough talks at the deadline to know what would be required in a sign and trade and if their players made it clear where they wanted to go the trade was easy to do.

To me, I think there should be no penalty for either team since these teams/players had already talked about a trade a few months before. If you hammer the teams, you're going to have to start coming down on the players conspiring also which will make things way more complicated.
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Post#315 » by 3ammy3uck3ts » Sat Nov 13, 2021 9:27 pm

Please get Knight or Garrett called up ASAP. I don’t want to see Gabe play another minute. Dipo can’t get back soon enough.

This investigation stuff is BS, crack down on Riley and he is going to sabotage the damn league and everyone is getting violations next summer for tampering.
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Post#316 » by contract » Sat Nov 13, 2021 9:49 pm

3ammy3uck3ts wrote:Please get Knight or Garrett called up ASAP. I don’t want to see Gabe play another minute. Dipo can’t get back soon enough.

This investigation stuff is BS, crack down on Riley and he is going to sabotage the damn league and everyone is getting violations next summer for tampering.

I can't think of a single fan that wants to see Gabe play. But apparently he's got a fan is Spo.
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Re: Miami Heat Regular Season Thread 21-22 Vol. 1 

Post#317 » by 3ammy3uck3ts » Sat Nov 13, 2021 9:56 pm

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3ammy3uck3ts wrote:Please get Knight or Garrett called up ASAP. I don’t want to see Gabe play another minute. Dipo can’t get back soon enough.

This investigation stuff is BS, crack down on Riley and he is going to sabotage the damn league and everyone is getting violations next summer for tampering.

I can't think of a single fan that wants to see Gabe play. But apparently he's got a fan is Spo.


If I want to see any of these young projects in the game it’s Yurt and to a lesser extent, Garrett. Gabe and KZ have had their chances, it’s time to see you can’t hit on 100% of your projects and move to the next. Yurt may not be there yet defensively but I’ve never not been impressed when I’ve watched him. He impressed again in 4 short minutes against the lakers with the and 1 over AD and being a +8. Just some confusing rotations going on right now imo but who am I to Spo lol
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Re: Miami Heat Regular Season Thread 21-22 Vol. 1 

Post#318 » by Bhut Jolokia » Sat Nov 13, 2021 11:13 pm

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Bhut Jolokia wrote:I wouldn’t worry too much about Duncan’s shooting slump. He is shooting 31.2% 3s with 109 attempts. There are other high volume 3 point shooters that are struggling as well. Lillard is shooting 25.4% 3s at 114 attempts, Jordan Clarkson 23.4% 3s with 111 attempts, Donovan Mitchell 32.2% 3s with 115 attempts, Tatum is shooting 32.9% with 85 attempts, Malik Beasley is at 31.9% with 72 attempts and Brogdon at 28.3% 3s. All much worse than last year


It’s not so much his shooting the 3 I’m worried about.. he offers nothing else and he’s a foul magnet. Most of the players you mentioned can do a lot more than just shoot the 3.


That’s what makes half those other players star / superstars. If Duncan was stronger at other areas of his game he would have probably got even more $ in the off season too. Heat knew exactly who they were signing for the money they offered. I’m sure they took the necessary signing precautions after previous misfires too.
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Re: Miami Heat Regular Season Thread 21-22 Vol. 1 

Post#319 » by Flash4thewin » Sun Nov 14, 2021 12:35 am

HEATVols865 wrote:So the NBA is about to hammer us with $10M and a loss of draft picks as well as suspending Riley and Ellisburg?

They can’t stand Miami’s success!


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If we where that stupid and incompetent to get caught we deserve what we get. Right now it’s just speculation.
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Re: Miami Heat Regular Season Thread 21-22 Vol. 1 

Post#320 » by harlem_ball » Sun Nov 14, 2021 2:00 am

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