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Off-Season Volume 6 - The One Where Someone (Darius Days) Signs

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Re: Off-Season Volume 6 - The One Where Someone Signs 

Post#301 » by HeatFanLifer » Sat Jul 16, 2022 9:42 pm

I’m curious what team out there would actually give Herro a max contract. The Heat often bid against themselves for their own FA’s. Case in point: James Johnson, Dion Waiters, Whiteside, and most recently D-Rob.
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Re: Off-Season Volume 6 - The One Where Someone Signs 

Post#302 » by Flash4thewin » Sat Jul 16, 2022 9:45 pm

HeatFanLifer wrote:I’m curious what team out there would actually give Herro a max contract. The Heat often bid against themselves for their own FA’s. Case in point: James Johnson, Dion Waiters, Whiteside, and most recently D-Rob.


Whiteside had teams after him. I dont remember JJ. The Waiter and Duncan signings were no comment :evil:

It should be noted that Waiters did win a championship ring while on his contract :lol:

As for Herro a it seems a few teams will have max cap space next offseason so we are just playing with fire. All it takes is one team to screw it all up.
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Re: Off-Season Volume 6 - The One Where Someone Signs 

Post#303 » by Vertical Limit » Sat Jul 16, 2022 9:48 pm

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contract wrote:We can save more by trading him rather than paying him. Signing a bad contract always bites you on the ass. He isn't a guy to build around. Don't pay him like he is.

If it were me im calling ainge and im like listen, forget mitchell for now.. you got other players you want to offload..

Im trading him straight up for beverly and clarkson..he can be someone else’s max contract slot.. not ours..


That would be an awful lot of guards to find playing time for...

Lowry/Beverly/Vincent
Strus/Oladipo/Clarkson

They can do bojan and clarkson, that will address two needs for us..

Herro is not in the long term plans, if someone else wants to pay then let them pay.

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Re: Off-Season Volume 6 - The One Where Someone Signs 

Post#304 » by 3ammy3uck3ts » Sat Jul 16, 2022 9:48 pm

Hopefully Herro isn’t here next season but if so just do a sign and trade next summer or match his 4 year offer like with Ayton
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Re: Off-Season Volume 6 - The One Where Someone Signs 

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Re: Off-Season Volume 6 - The One Where Someone Signs 

Post#306 » by Hallstar » Sat Jul 16, 2022 9:55 pm

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Unfortunately that number is not realistic. If we are dumb enough to let the market set the price, we will be paying him the max. Dumb teams always pay more. If we are smart we should be trying to get Herro to sign now a little below the max. Say his max is 35 mil, sign him for 30 mil. Thats the same price we are paying Lowry and we save millions, and since hes not on the max it makes him more attractive trade bait.

We can save more by trading him rather than paying him. Signing a bad contract always bites you on the ass. He isn't a guy to build around. Don't pay him like he is.

If it were me im calling ainge and im like listen, forget mitchell for now.. you got other players you want to offload..

Im trading him straight up for beverly and clarkson..he can be someone else’s max contract slot.. not ours..

So the option is to get worse for no reason. You realize how many game Bam and Jimmy missed last year? We don't even have homecourt if we did that trade.
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Re: Off-Season Volume 6 - The One Where Someone Signs 

Post#307 » by HeatFanLifer » Sat Jul 16, 2022 9:58 pm

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HeatFanLifer wrote:I’m curious what team out there would actually give Herro a max contract. The Heat often bid against themselves for their own FA’s. Case in point: James Johnson, Dion Waiters, Whiteside, and most recently D-Rob.


Whiteside had teams after him. I dont remember JJ. The Waiter and Duncan signings were no comment :evil:

It should be noted that Waiters did win a championship ring while on his contract :lol:

As for Herro a it seems a few teams will have max cap space next offseason so we are just playing with fire. All it takes is one team to screw it all up.


I say let them screw it all up Lol. Maybe the Heat can do a S&T so Herro gets even more money to f up some scrub team’s cap space
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Re: Off-Season Volume 6 - The One Where Someone Signs 

Post#308 » by jcaponio » Sat Jul 16, 2022 10:05 pm

Vertical Limit wrote:If it were me im calling ainge and im like listen, forget mitchell for now.. you got other players you want to offload..

Im trading him straight up for beverly and clarkson..he can be someone else’s max contract slot.. not ours..


Oooof, thank God you're not in the front office. Clarkson is just an older, smaller version of Herro.
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Re: Off-Season Volume 6 - The One Where Someone Signs 

Post#309 » by Flash4thewin » Sat Jul 16, 2022 10:06 pm

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HeatFanLifer wrote:I’m curious what team out there would actually give Herro a max contract. The Heat often bid against themselves for their own FA’s. Case in point: James Johnson, Dion Waiters, Whiteside, and most recently D-Rob.


Whiteside had teams after him. I dont remember JJ. The Waiter and Duncan signings were no comment :evil:

It should be noted that Waiters did win a championship ring while on his contract :lol:

As for Herro a it seems a few teams will have max cap space next offseason so we are just playing with fire. All it takes is one team to screw it all up.


I say let them screw it all up Lol. Maybe the Heat can do a S&T so Herro gets even more money to f up some scrub team’s cap space


It all depends if team X wants to play along. The bigger ramification would be losing our best asset for nothing vs getting destroyed with the tax. If we can see this a mile away, one can imagine people actually paid to do this realize the same. Then again we gladly spent 180 million dollars on Duncan and Lowry, so who knows man, who knows.
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Re: Off-Season Volume 6 - The One Where Someone Signs 

Post#310 » by twix2500 » Sat Jul 16, 2022 10:06 pm

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IceColdCubano wrote:Miami may go the Phoenix route perhaps, let him play out the season, earn the max. If he comes out putting up 22-25PPG on good efficiency as a starter, chances are he will get that Max. However they will let another team bid on him and see what the market is offering.
Those statistics are 35 mill per and up players. You guys are on the 2000 teens salary expectations.

That's what a max contract for Herro would be. ~ $40m per :noway:


His max is 32 mill. However I am not suggesting that. People on here are suggesting 20 and lower per. That's ridiculous. The Heat likely offer a little or equal to Bam contract. Between 25-30. I say basically what Lowry getting but for 5 years.

You guys are slowly realizing when I said this year roster was built to last for one year or 2 years max. That is why I mocked many on here talking about these players 3 plus years from now. Only Bam is projected to be here long term.
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Post#311 » by G R E Y » Sat Jul 16, 2022 10:11 pm

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Happy for Darius that if we couldn't secure his services he'd land in a good situation. We worked him out twice pre-draft and I'd hoped we could retain him on our second two-way contract.

He's unmovable in the post. Kuminga drove into him and just... dropped to the floor lol That said, Days moves well into the right spaces off ball, can make a 3 well, switches, guards 3-5, moves well doing it. Plays within himself and has an excellent attitude. I think your team will love him.
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Re: Off-Season Volume 6 - The One Where Someone Signs 

Post#312 » by HeatFanLifer » Sat Jul 16, 2022 10:11 pm

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Whiteside had teams after him. I dont remember JJ. The Waiter and Duncan signings were no comment :evil:

It should be noted that Waiters did win a championship ring while on his contract :lol:

As for Herro a it seems a few teams will have max cap space next offseason so we are just playing with fire. All it takes is one team to screw it all up.


I say let them screw it all up Lol. Maybe the Heat can do a S&T so Herro gets even more money to f up some scrub team’s cap space


It all depends if team X wants to play along. The bigger ramification would be losing our best asset for nothing vs getting destroyed with the tax. If we can see this a mile away, one can imagine people actually paid to do this realize the same. Then again we gladly spent 180 million dollars on Duncan and Lowry, so who knows man, who knows.


I used to share that perspective, but now with Drobs contract being so toxic that it would take at least 1 FRP plus other bad things like taking a different bad contract just to move the guy… I am leaning towards the philosophy of let em walk.

As another example of when it’s best to just let a player walk, I still remember that poison pill contract for Tyler Johnson too. The Heat ended up having to trade him for Ryan Anderson and then they had to stretch Anderson’s contract just to sign Yimmy. The Heat were paying that contract until this offseason when it finally came off the books.
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Re: Off-Season Volume 6 - The One Where Someone Signs 

Post#313 » by eddieheatfan » Sat Jul 16, 2022 10:12 pm

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Happy for Darius that if we couldn't secure his services he'd land in a good situation. We worked him out twice and I'd hoped we could retain him for our second two-way contract.

He's unmovable in the post. Kuminga drove into him and just... dropped to the floor lol That said, Days moves well into the right spaces off ball, can make a 3 well, switches, guards 3-5, moves well doing it. Plays within himself and has an excellent attitude. I think your team will love him.
i just want him to defend well and rebound with tucker's departure the heat needs someone to fill that void and maybe just maybe this kid will be it
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Post#314 » by G R E Y » Sat Jul 16, 2022 10:35 pm

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Happy for Darius that if we couldn't secure his services he'd land in a good situation. We worked him out twice and I'd hoped we could retain him for our second two-way contract.

He's unmovable in the post. Kuminga drove into him and just... dropped to the floor lol That said, Days moves well into the right spaces off ball, can make a 3 well, switches, guards 3-5, moves well doing it. Plays within himself and has an excellent attitude. I think your team will love him.
i just want him to defend well and rebound with tucker's departure the heat needs someone to fill that void and maybe just maybe this kid will be it

3s, D, rebounds. Very strong, low center of gravity. Excellent attitude. Hope he gets a chance to make the most of it.
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Post#315 » by HEATVols865 » Sat Jul 16, 2022 10:37 pm

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twix2500 wrote:Those statistics are 35 mill per and up players. You guys are on the 2000 teens salary expectations.

That's what a max contract for Herro would be. ~ $40m per :noway:


His max is 32 mill. However I am not suggesting that. People on here are suggesting 20 and lower per. That's ridiculous. The Heat likely offer a little or equal to Bam contract. Between 25-30. I say basically what Lowry getting but for 5 years.

You guys are slowly realizing when I said this year roster was built to last for one year or 2 years max. That is why I mocked many on here talking about these players 3 plus years from now. Only Bam is projected to be here long term.

You’re crazy if you think Herro has earned a contract higher than $20M per year.


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Post#316 » by DayofMourning » Sat Jul 16, 2022 10:38 pm

G R E Y wrote:
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G R E Y wrote:Happy for Darius that if we couldn't secure his services he'd land in a good situation. We worked him out twice and I'd hoped we could retain him for our second two-way contract.

He's unmovable in the post. Kuminga drove into him and just... dropped to the floor lol That said, Days moves well into the right spaces off ball, can make a 3 well, switches, guards 3-5, moves well doing it. Plays within himself and has an excellent attitude. I think your team will love him.
i just want him to defend well and rebound with tucker's departure the heat needs someone to fill that void and maybe just maybe this kid will be it

3s, D, rebounds. Very strong, low center of gravity. Excellent attitude. Hope he gets a chance to make the most of it.


How does he move laterally? We switch everyone on every play so I'm guessing he's got that covered as well?
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Re: Off-Season Volume 6 - The One Where Someone Signs 

Post#317 » by G R E Y » Sat Jul 16, 2022 10:42 pm

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eddieheatfan wrote: i just want him to defend well and rebound with tucker's departure the heat needs someone to fill that void and maybe just maybe this kid will be it

3s, D, rebounds. Very strong, low center of gravity. Excellent attitude. Hope he gets a chance to make the most of it.


How does he move laterally? We switch everyone on every play so I'm guessing he's got that covered as well?

Surprisingly well for a guy his size. He's a cube. I mean that in the best way in terms of strength. And he'll benefit from your fitness program. But the caveat is that it's Summer League, right? Still, he stood out as a smart player knowing where to be and what to do consistently. Really nice shooting touch to boot.
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Re: Off-Season Volume 6 - The One Where Someone Signs 

Post#318 » by Hallstar » Sat Jul 16, 2022 10:43 pm

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contract wrote:That's what a max contract for Herro would be. ~ $40m per :noway:


His max is 32 mill. However I am not suggesting that. People on here are suggesting 20 and lower per. That's ridiculous. The Heat likely offer a little or equal to Bam contract. Between 25-30. I say basically what Lowry getting but for 5 years.

You guys are slowly realizing when I said this year roster was built to last for one year or 2 years max. That is why I mocked many on here talking about these players 3 plus years from now. Only Bam is projected to be here long term.

You’re crazy if you think Herro has earned a contract higher than $20M per year.


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