Miami Heat Offseason Thread Vol. 4: Fraudfather Snoozin 2.0

[MettaWorldPanda]

Kelel Ware and Bam better be the opening night front court starting lineup or else we carrying end of the bench 5 Center dead weight again

Trading Niko?

C Bam C Ware C Love C Bryant
PF Niko

What in the phuckin boneheaded roster construction is this?

[MettaWorldPanda]

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[Grumpy Heat Fan]

The oversimplification of things to drive your narrative is hilarious. It doesn't matter that Shaq wanted to play with D-Wade....him being traded to Miami was because Heat was able to make a great offer because Riley previously signed Lamar Odom and drafted Caron Butler.

LeBron and Bosh joined Wade here because the Heat were the only team with the cap space to sign all three. Those players were shopping themselves around to other teams including Chicago, but the Big 3 could only be formed in Miami. Riley cleared the cap space through years of planning and made that a possibility.

Yes, Wade was in Butler's ear about Miami. However, he pitched him on the culture and environment instilled by Riley and Spo.

You see, I can easily push another narrative

But, without Wade, you don't get LeBron, you don't get Butler. You can create a great environment and never get high level players unless you have a voice of a top tier player advocating for that environment, but Miami's FO did execute the plans that Wade basically created.

Riley was in Miami 7 years before Wade was drafted, one ECF happened, Wade shows up and it's 2nd round, ECF, NBA Finals the next 3 years, Wade, LeBron and Bosh talk about playing together and are willing to take less to do it and Riley/Miami work the roster/trades to make it happen easier than just taking huge salary cuts. Miami was going nowhere after Wade left, Butler shows up and then Miami makes the ECF 3 times in 5 years. MJ made Chicago into a winner although Krause took any credit he could, the misses by the FO during that era was huge. Players run the league.

Riley has been successful everywhere he's been....LA, New York, Miami. Of course a coach/GM needs elite players to win, and Riley has been blessed with more than his fair share of them...Magic/Kareem, Ewing, Zo/Wade/Shaq/LeBron. Phil Jackson is another legendary figure who has been blessed with GOAT talent throughout his career. Does that mean Riley and Phil were just along for the ride?

I think we've lost sight of the point

We don't have that Riley anymore

We have Sleepy Pat that has been bad for a while now. This is the Pat we are talking about. Not 20 years ago pat.

[Rapaz]

I really didn't expect much this offseason, we don't have much option. I want to rebuild and go young, and I understand we couldn't get a star.

But this Dru Smith and T.Bryant signings...

Man this chit is just getting Weird AF.
We can't really be ran by a demented 80 YO..right?!?

Demented octogenarian leaders are in vogue

And though Uncle Jerry is nearing 90, your Fraudfather is no match for the vitality and vigor of this absolute geriatric stud.

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[Grumpy Heat Fan]

Thank God Riley took all the information and drafted Wade then. Say whatever you want about Riley's recent missteps, but trying to erase his importance to the Heat dating that far back is honestly pathetic.

I give him full credit for drafting Wade.

But acting like Miami fans are in for a huge awakening when Riley is gone, because we had it so good? No.

All of our real success came from Dwyane Wade in a Heat jersey, recruiting players for us, and being an all time HOF'er on the court.


Outside of that, Riley builds treadmill teams. Fact.

It's not a fact. It's the rumblings of a delusional/entitled fan.

Name one team that Riley built, that won a championship, without Dwyane Wade on it.

But we've lost sight of the point

Ya'll get too sensitive and start bringing up Riley's past, and we are talking about Riley in this current version of himself. Not the same.

[Grumpy Heat Fan]

We can't really be ran by a demented 80 YO..right?!?

reminds me of the presidential debate a week ago

[MettaWorldPanda]

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No trade protection

[Rapaz]

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It takes a world-class bozo to sign Thomas Bryant to a trade-protected contract.

[lastb1ckman]

let's be real. Who has Riley actually lured to Miami without Dwyane Wade?

He drafted Wade, best thing Riley ever did as FO, and he had to be convinced to do it. Correct me if I am wrong, but I remember that Riley wanted Chris Kaman? lol



comparing us to charlotte teams lol. We are Miami, we can attract good coaches and execs because South Florida is attractive.

I mean, what team lures anyone without having a star already?

The Nets did it with KD and Kyrie.
The Clippers did it with Kawhi and George.
The Lakers did it with LeBron.

Those are true, but I think those are exceptions to the rule. They did A LOT of losing before then to build up assets and gave up the farm and control of the entire future of the orgs to those players. It really only paid off for the lakers.

[Beenie]

Kelel Ware and Bam better be the opening night front court starting lineup or else we carrying end of the bench 5 Center dead weight again

Trading Niko?

C Bam C Ware C Love C Bryant
PF Niko

What in the phuckin boneheaded roster construction is this?

Love can play PF, Tbf

But I agree in general. Didn’t like the Ware pick and would of preferred a guard or De Silva

Gladly eat crow though if Ware pans out

[Lennyzinho]

Kelel Ware and Bam better be the opening night front court starting lineup or else we carrying end of the bench 5 Center dead weight again

Trading Niko?

C Bam C Ware C Love C Bryant
PF Niko

What in the phuckin boneheaded roster construction is this?

Either incoming trade. Or heat are really committed to Bam at the 4 or at the very least playing part of the game at 4 if Ware or Love or Bryant are at the 5.

This surprised me but Bryant is a career 35.5% 3pt shooter with multiple seasons in the 40%'s. Ofc low volume but still impressed.

So I mean. Love Ware Bryant can all shoot 3's. We could be seeing Bam at the 4 and jovic backing him up and maybe getting some run at the 5 small ball or the 3, big lineup ala Orlando Magic or OKC.

[SoFlaKingReal]

I give him full credit for drafting Wade.

But acting like Miami fans are in for a huge awakening when Riley is gone, because we had it so good? No.

All of our real success came from Dwyane Wade in a Heat jersey, recruiting players for us, and being an all time HOF'er on the court.


Outside of that, Riley builds treadmill teams. Fact.

It's not a fact. It's the rumblings of a delusional/entitled fan.

Name one team that Riley built, that won a championship, without Dwyane Wade on it.

But we've lost sight of the point

Ya'll get too sensitive and start bringing up Riley's past, and we are talking about Riley in this current version of himself. Not the same.

You brought up the past. Going all the way back to early 2000s saying Riley hasn't done squat. I agree that the current situation is not good.

[Grumpy Heat Fan]

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No trade protection

Why did he use the word "PROTECTION"



is it to avoid saying "Pat Riley gave Thomas Bryant a no trade clause"

?

[Grumpy Heat Fan]

It's not a fact. It's the rumblings of a delusional/entitled fan.

Name one team that Riley built, that won a championship, without Dwyane Wade on it.

But we've lost sight of the point

Ya'll get too sensitive and start bringing up Riley's past, and we are talking about Riley in this current version of himself. Not the same.

You brought up the past. Going all the way back to early 2000s saying Riley hasn't done squat. I agree that the current situation is not good.

yes I did, and I got baited by other posters who brought up pat's past because we were criticizing his current moves

[MettaWorldPanda]

Trading Niko?

C Bam C Ware C Love C Bryant
PF Niko

What in the phuckin boneheaded roster construction is this?

Love can play PF, Tbf

But I agree in general. Didn’t like the Ware pick and would of preferred a guard or De Silva

Gladly eat crow though if Ware pans out

Love was playing Center for the majority of last year with Haywood at the 4. Spo literally stopped playing Love with Bam all together. Maybe he plays Ware with Love but who the heck knows man. We had Crowder, Covington, Morris, and i’m sure many others we could have signed and this is what we do. Awful

[SoFlaKingReal]

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No trade protection

Why did he use the word "PROTECTION"



is it to avoid saying "Pat Riley gave Thomas Bryant a no trade clause"

?

lol come on man

Every player signed right now has a trade protection for a certain amount of time.

[lastb1ckman]

Kelel Ware and Bam better be the opening night front court starting lineup or else we carrying end of the bench 5 Center dead weight again

Trading Niko?

C Bam C Ware C Love C Bryant
PF Niko

What in the phuckin boneheaded roster construction is this?

Hmm, I wonder how to rotation will play out next season. What if we really are playing big? With possibly no highsmith or Caleb, what if Love is moving back to back up PF?

[Rapaz]

Uncle Jerry would NEVER. The only thing that’ll “protect” you from a trade is getting in my good graces. Bunch of suckers in your FO.

[SoFlaKingReal]

C Bam C Ware C Love C Bryant
PF Niko

What in the phuckin boneheaded roster construction is this?

Love can play PF, Tbf

But I agree in general. Didn’t like the Ware pick and would of preferred a guard or De Silva

Gladly eat crow though if Ware pans out

Love was playing Center for the majority of last year with Haywood at the 4. Spo literally stopped playing Love with Bam all together. Maybe he plays Ware with Love but who the heck knows man. We had Crowder, Covington, Morris, and i’m sure many others we could have signed and this is what we do. Awful

I agree with the sentiment, but we cant force free agents to sign with us lol. Bryant was willing to sign for the minimum right now.