Miami Heat Summer League 2024 Thread

[greg4012]

Ware gonna be a foul committing machine…

Like Whiteside

Ware averaged 2.5 fouls per 40 minutes in each of his 2 college seasons. Whiteside averaged 3.7 fouls per 40 minutes in his lone college season.

Some seem eager to assign Ware the label of Whiteside 2.0 because he was the last player to play for Miami with similar length. There are other players with similar measurables that have existed in the NBA.

Good stat

The whiteside comp is apt in my eyes for several reasons. They physically look the same and move similarly. Ware gives off block chasing vibes. He also looks uncomfortable at times figuring out the timing and positioning of his screen setting.

The comp isn’t all bad. Whiteside was dominant at times.

More than anything, I question the fit next to Bam and I wonder what Bam’s future is on this team come the end of his next contract.

The bolded and underlined above is definitely accurate. His court awareness on both sides of the ball is probably the swing skill for his floor. I believe his 3 pt shooting to be arguably the biggest swing skill for his ceiling.

For Ware generally, being coachable and able to learn is the name of the game. I'm encouraged by the Heat's due diligence there.

Adding some more functional strength will make everything easier for Ware.

[3ammy3uck3ts]

Poor mans Orlando Robinson based on summer league play lol let’s see him do it when it matters! I like the pick and have been hype about it but watching him I’m thinking I need to pump the brakes a little bit on him playing next to Bam this coming season and potentially working his way into being a starter. Hes clearly very raw which should always be expected but idk about him being matched up with the Embiid, Jokic, KP and getting switched on to defending nba level guards or Gianni’s lebron etc. hes clearly nowhere near ready for that but maybe in 2 years

[Beenie]

Ware gonna be a foul committing machine…

Like Whiteside

Ware averaged 2.5 fouls per 40 minutes in each of his 2 college seasons. Whiteside averaged 3.7 fouls per 40 minutes in his lone college season.

Some seem eager to assign Ware the label of Whiteside 2.0 because he was the last player to play for Miami with similar length. There are other players with similar measurables that have existed in the NBA.

Beenie is a late adopter on young guys. Hed rather trade Ware, JJJ, Jovic and Herro for Lauri. To each his own, but Im willing to give Ware plenty of time to grow. A mobile big who plays both ends of the court is a nice piece.

I dont see the Hassan comparison at all, but whatevs. Ware is more athletic by a decent margin and possesses similar length. He is also a much more fluid offensive option.

I’d like to keep Jaime.

He’s ready to win right now in Jimmy’s window

[HeatIn5]

Poor mans Orlando Robinson based on summer league play lol let’s see him do it when it matters! I like the pick and have been hype about it but watching him I’m thinking I need to pump the brakes a little bit on him playing next to Bam this coming season and potentially working his way into being a starter. Hes clearly very raw which should always be expected but idk about him being matched up with the Embiid, Jokic, KP and getting switched on to defending nba level guards or Gianni’s lebron etc. hes clearly nowhere near ready for that but maybe in 2 years

Yea no, people are going to be disappointed in his year 1 playing time FOR SURE.

Think Jovic year 1

[3ammy3uck3ts]

Poor mans Orlando Robinson based on summer league play lol let’s see him do it when it matters! I like the pick and have been hype about it but watching him I’m thinking I need to pump the brakes a little bit on him playing next to Bam this coming season and potentially working his way into being a starter. Hes clearly very raw which should always be expected but idk about him being matched up with the Embiid, Jokic, KP and getting switched on to defending nba level guards or Gianni’s lebron etc. hes clearly nowhere near ready for that but maybe in 2 years

Yea no, people are going to be disappointed in his year 1 playing time FOR SURE.

Think Jovic year 1

It’s really just body/mobility stuff for me. He needs to add 15 pounds of muscle at minimum but he needs to do it in a way he can also improve his mobility. I don’t like the way he moves personally but who else better than the best trainers in the world to get his body and mobility the way we need it.

On top of that he needs to be getting up 1,000 3s a day at minimum, his touch from the extended 3 point line has looked bad, like he is throwing up some damn bricks that don’t even have a chance.

A year or 2 developing should do wonders but he’s not going to help much right now imo and that’s all I’m worried out

[SerialChiller]

Ware gonna be a foul committing machine…

Like Whiteside

Ware averaged 2.5 fouls per 40 minutes in each of his 2 college seasons. Whiteside averaged 3.7 fouls per 40 minutes in his lone college season.

Some seem eager to assign Ware the label of Whiteside 2.0 because he was the last player to play for Miami with similar length. There are other players with similar measurables that have existed in the NBA.

Good stat

The whiteside comp is apt in my eyes for several reasons. They physically look the same and move similarly. Ware gives off block chasing vibes. He also looks uncomfortable at times figuring out the timing and positioning of his screen setting.

The comp isn’t all bad. Whiteside was dominant at times.

More than anything, I question the fit next to Bam and I wonder what Bam’s future is on this team come the end of his next contract.

Wareside!

[lastb1ckman]

Ware is a back up year 1. It's solidified. He's showing enough to be excited for the future (and for heat fans to be annoying about), but still has enough flaws to keep him from out of the starting 5. I can't wait for what he looks like after his bad habits are coached out

[twix2500]

Poor mans Orlando Robinson based on summer league play lol let’s see him do it when it matters! I like the pick and have been hype about it but watching him I’m thinking I need to pump the brakes a little bit on him playing next to Bam this coming season and potentially working his way into being a starter. Hes clearly very raw which should always be expected but idk about him being matched up with the Embiid, Jokic, KP and getting switched on to defending nba level guards or Gianni’s lebron etc. hes clearly nowhere near ready for that but maybe in 2 years

Yea no, people are going to be disappointed in his year 1 playing time FOR SURE.

Think Jovic year 1

Oh this room is gonna throw a fit that Ware is a project big and not generational talent that ready to start year one averaging 20 pts on excellent efficiency.

[lastb1ckman]

Is Ware giving shades of Whiteside a good or bad thing?

To me it's good, cause Whiteside had elite tools and athleticism, we just got him when when he was too mature. His flaws were cooked in. We're getting Ware when there's time to fix him. Whiteside at his peak was all defense and near allstar level. If Ware reaches that and gets rid of a lot of his flaws, that's a great get at 15.

[HeatIn5]

Ware's freshman year stats at Oregon -

35 games (4 starts)
15.8 min
6.6 pts
4.1 reb
1.3 blk
45.7/27.3/71.2

I could see his rookie NBA season being extremely similar.

But we have year 2 at Indiana numbers to look forward to when discussing a Year 1 to 2 jump

Ware's sophomore year at Indiana

30 games (30 starts)
32.2 min (40 min game)
15.9 pts
9.9 reb
1.9 blk
58.6/42.5/63.4

[lastb1ckman]

Poor mans Orlando Robinson based on summer league play lol let’s see him do it when it matters! I like the pick and have been hype about it but watching him I’m thinking I need to pump the brakes a little bit on him playing next to Bam this coming season and potentially working his way into being a starter. Hes clearly very raw which should always be expected but idk about him being matched up with the Embiid, Jokic, KP and getting switched on to defending nba level guards or Gianni’s lebron etc. hes clearly nowhere near ready for that but maybe in 2 years

At the minimum, I see A LOT more defensive wise in Ware than Robinson ever gave. Even at summer league. That's where I see Ware getting his playing time with vs Robinson

[jaseda510]

It's pretty easy to see Ware has the lateral mobility which Orlando clearly lacks

[SerialChiller]

It's pretty easy to see Ware has the lateral mobility which Orlando clearly lacks

Yes he has him beat athletically in every way except for maybe strength since he's so young. O-Rob always looks like he can barely get any vert off the floor on his jumps .

[rate_]

Ware is going to get alot of his points off vertical spacing and superior length alone. Then add the solid postgame with good touch and dexterity around the basket and the occasional middy. And this all without the weight he’s gonna probably add as his career progresses or the flat 3P shot

[Bishop45]

I was today years old when I found out that Ware was named after Superman

How nerdy of his parents lol

[Pokuokic]

Larrson is a less athletic Grayson Allen

[dshearn]

Ware gonna be a foul committing machine…

Like Whiteside

Ware averaged 2.5 fouls per 40 minutes in each of his 2 college seasons. Whiteside averaged 3.7 fouls per 40 minutes in his lone college season.

Some seem eager to assign Ware the label of Whiteside 2.0 because he was the last player to play for Miami with similar length. There are other players with similar measurable that have existed in the NBA.

he is just so damn long, that it was really noticeable when he got small as someone drove past him....he gave no arm to flail into.... I don't know much about the guy...but at least on that one drive the dude was clearly trying to not give up +1.....we can do far worse than a young dude who was clearly thinking about the big picture in the moment.

[Seabass777]

Poor mans Orlando Robinson based on summer league play lol let’s see him do it when it matters! I like the pick and have been hype about it but watching him I’m thinking I need to pump the brakes a little bit on him playing next to Bam this coming season and potentially working his way into being a starter. Hes clearly very raw which should always be expected but idk about him being matched up with the Embiid, Jokic, KP and getting switched on to defending nba level guards or Gianni’s lebron etc. hes clearly nowhere near ready for that but maybe in 2 years

Ware has shown more promise from his first 2 Summer league games than Robinson had in his stint in Miami. He’s definitely ready to backup Bam or even start with him out of the gate.

[Seabass777]

Ware has the IT factor and watching him, he passes the eye test.

The sky is the limit for him, now it’s up to him and the organization to harness his upside. We made a damn good pick.

[Pokuokic]

Ware has very similar game to a mix of Whiteside (defense) and Willie Cauley Stein (Kings version) offense, he's more mobile/less lumbering than Hassan and more forceful but not as fast twitch as WCS. WCS stopped trying to block shots in the NBA which Ware by the lock of him won't. Interesting player even if his jump shot never comes around as long as he has a semi decent motor he's a starting type player and better.

I don't see any Orlando Robinson in his game