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Re: 2025 Offseason Thread Vol.4 

Post#301 » by 3ammy3uck3ts » Mon Jun 30, 2025 7:04 pm

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Miami and GS were the only 2 top-10 defenses this season that had more than two of their top 8 minute getters to grade out with a negative DBPM.

For GS, it was Wiggins (-0.4), Hield (-0.3) and Kuminga (-0.1).

For Miami, it was Duncan (-1.1), Rozier (-1.0) and Herro (-0.7). Notable that Wiggins also netted a negative DBPM during his time with Miami (-0.1).

Every other top 10 defense had no more than 2 players among their top 8 minute getters with a negative DBPM.

If you look exclusively at the top 8 minute getters for each of the top 10 defenses in the NBA, those with the worst DBPM would rank as follows:

Malik Beasley (-1.2)
Duncan Robinson (-1.1)
Terry Rozer (-1.0)

Darius Garland (-0.8)
Tyler Herro (-0.7)
Jaylen Brown (-0.5)
Andrew Wiggins (-0.4)

Miami lays claim to half the list (among 10 teams). It's a minor miracle that Miami was still able to field a top 10 defense.


Based on what we’ve seen so far the market seems to be shifting for one dimensional scorers with teams tossing them around and interest picking up on hustle guys who play both sides of the ball. The importance of Nesmith Nembhard Caruso dort etc in these last playoffs is probably the cause. You can get by with 1 maybe 2 bad defenders but they better be contributing at a very high level offensively
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Re: 2025 Offseason Thread Vol.4 

Post#302 » by SA37 » Mon Jun 30, 2025 7:14 pm

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Rozier, Duncan S&T, and cash for Giannis and 5 2nds
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Re: 2025 Offseason Thread Vol.4 

Post#303 » by EMC5466 » Mon Jun 30, 2025 7:15 pm

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Re: 2025 Offseason Thread Vol.4 

Post#304 » by SA37 » Mon Jun 30, 2025 7:16 pm

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Make sure he grabs some ETF500 (Elon Trump Fart Coin) while he has the chance too, perfect entry point right now!!


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Re: 2025 Offseason Thread Vol.4 

Post#305 » by EMC5466 » Mon Jun 30, 2025 7:17 pm

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Re: 2025 Offseason Thread Vol.4 

Post#306 » by SA37 » Mon Jun 30, 2025 7:18 pm

MettaWorldPanda wrote:Middleton
Smart
Draft picks to Heat

Wiggins
Holmes to Lakers

To Wiz

Vincent
Rozier
Kleber
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Picks to Heat


Washington isn't giving picks to take that exquisite PuPuPlatter of meh. On top of it, Smart and Middleton are the best players in the entire deal, save for Wiggins.
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Re: 2025 Offseason Thread Vol.4 

Post#307 » by SA37 » Mon Jun 30, 2025 7:22 pm

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"Wait, wait, wait. He bet on HIMSELF? Let him go. Poor guy. Just let him go."
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Re: 2025 Offseason Thread Vol.4 

Post#309 » by SerialChiller » Mon Jun 30, 2025 7:26 pm

All I want to see now is to trade Rozier and Wiggins. Rozier only has value as an expiring and Wiggins might net a young player or draft pick, but get rid of these 2 highly paid 30+ year olds who don't fit in our future plans and only serve to take minutes away from the young guys. Kyle Anderson can go too, but might have to wait till next offseason when he's set to be on an expiring deal then. Go into this developmental/tank season looking something like this...

PG - Davion Mitchell / Kasparas Jakucionis / Dru Smith
SG - Tyler Herro / Pelle Larsson / Alec Burks
SF - Haywood Highsmith / Jaime Jaquez Jr. / Kyle Anderson
PF - Bam Adebayo / Nikola Jovic / Keshad Johnson
C - Kel'el Ware / Vladislav Goldin / Kevin Love
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Re: 2025 Offseason Thread Vol.4 

Post#310 » by SA37 » Mon Jun 30, 2025 7:30 pm

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Re: 2025 Offseason Thread Vol.4 

Post#311 » by CrossOver » Mon Jun 30, 2025 7:31 pm

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Re: 2025 Offseason Thread Vol.4 

Post#312 » by 3ammy3uck3ts » Mon Jun 30, 2025 7:31 pm

SerialChiller wrote:All I want to see now is to trade Rozier and Wiggins. Rozier only has value as an expiring and Wiggins might net a young player or draft pick, but get rid of these 2 highly paid 30+ year olds who don't fit in our future plans and only serve to take minutes away from the young guys. Kyle Anderson can go too, but might have to wait till next offseason when he's set to be on an expiring deal then. Go into this developmental/tank season looking something like this...

PG - Davion Mitchell / Kasparas Jakucionis / Dru Smith
SG - Tyler Herro / Pelle Larsson / Alec Burks
SF - Haywood Highsmith / Jaimi Jaquez Jr. / Kyle Anderson
PF - Bam Adebayo / Nikola Jovic / Keshad Johnson
C - Kel'el Ware / Vladislav Goldin / Kevin Love


I’m starting to feel good about being able to get a 1st for Wiggins
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Re: 2025 Offseason Thread Vol.4 

Post#313 » by SA37 » Mon Jun 30, 2025 7:32 pm

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Re: 2025 Offseason Thread Vol.4 

Post#314 » by SA37 » Mon Jun 30, 2025 7:32 pm

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This would be an excellent pickup for Miami if true.
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Re: 2025 Offseason Thread Vol.4 

Post#315 » by SA37 » Mon Jun 30, 2025 7:36 pm

MartyConlonJr wrote:I used to know how the NBA cap rules worked but not anymore really, but I think you can sign and trade a player into another teams exceptions, MLE is 12.8. Also if we did that for Duncan Robinson do we get a traded player exemption for the same amount? I think we would have in the past, but I don't think you used to be able to do sign and trade with MLE. Because we are still over the cap but under the luxury, so would have our own MLE. Can't imagine we would retain both, seems like a loophole?



Midlevel exceptions can now also be used to trade for a player whose salary and contract length fit within the exception’s parameters.



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Re: 2025 Offseason Thread Vol.4 

Post#316 » by DayofMourning » Mon Jun 30, 2025 7:37 pm

Rui Hachimura, Kyle Anderson and Terry Rozier make 54.1.

Giannis makes 54.1............
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Re: 2025 Offseason Thread Vol.4 

Post#317 » by 3ammy3uck3ts » Mon Jun 30, 2025 7:44 pm

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This would be an excellent pickup for Miami if true.


Love this, Bam/Ware/Collins is a very versatile power rotation, each combo works
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Re: 2025 Offseason Thread Vol.4 

Post#318 » by MettaWorldPanda » Mon Jun 30, 2025 7:45 pm

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This would be an excellent pickup for Miami if true.

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Re: 2025 Offseason Thread Vol.4 

Post#319 » by CrossOver » Mon Jun 30, 2025 7:46 pm

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Re: 2025 Offseason Thread Vol.4 

Post#320 » by SerialChiller » Mon Jun 30, 2025 7:49 pm

3ammy3uck3ts wrote:
SerialChiller wrote:All I want to see now is to trade Rozier and Wiggins. Rozier only has value as an expiring and Wiggins might net a young player or draft pick, but get rid of these 2 highly paid 30+ year olds who don't fit in our future plans and only serve to take minutes away from the young guys. Kyle Anderson can go too, but might have to wait till next offseason when he's set to be on an expiring deal then. Go into this developmental/tank season looking something like this...

PG - Davion Mitchell / Kasparas Jakucionis / Dru Smith
SG - Tyler Herro / Pelle Larsson / Alec Burks
SF - Haywood Highsmith / Jaimi Jaquez Jr. / Kyle Anderson
PF - Bam Adebayo / Nikola Jovic / Keshad Johnson
C - Kel'el Ware / Vladislav Goldin / Kevin Love


I’m starting to feel good about being able to get a 1st for Wiggins


I'm not so sure about that but it would be nice! I just can't wait to have clean books for the team to work with again. Without him we only have on the books for the year after next (26-27):
Bam $48M
Herro $33M
Mitchell $12M
Ware $4.6M (team option)
JJJ $5.9M (team option)
Larsson $2.3M (team option)

and Anderson $9.6M (can use as expiring in a trade) along with Wiggins I guess if we don't manage to move him and he accepts his $30M player option.

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