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Re: Game 1 Post Game NBA Finals 

Post#321 » by ecnirp » Wed Jun 13, 2012 5:24 am

DefenseWins wrote:So I was looking at the stats.

At half time we were leading in rebounding

by the end of the game we got crushed like hell.

I mean I knew we were losing some lose balls and Collison was getting offensive rebs, but UD being out for awhile hurt us.

But he kept making stupid fouls... it was annoying.

Had 5 guys in double figures. This was lost on the defensive end. Then Westbrook smashed his match up with Wade :\


Lets be real.....LeBron averaged 34/11 against the Celtics.

He's going to need to average the same kind of numbers. Has to be in double figure rebounds to give the Heat a shot (yes I know he had 9). But the Heat are going to need some 15+ rebound games from LeBron this series.
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Re: Game 1 Post Game NBA Finals 

Post#322 » by Carlos4Heat » Wed Jun 13, 2012 5:24 am

OtW wrote:Look at the coverage OKC is getting in their locker room after one win.
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Can't stand to see all the Durant creaming that will be done if they win. For our sake, we better adjust, get our heads right, and win this **** convincingly. These kids should not win a ring before us. This is OUR year.


In a ideal world,that would be the case.But alas,crap happens when you make mistakes,and allow a young,talented and hungry team to linger.

Sidenote:Why the heck was D-wade and Lebron laughing,on their way up to the podium for their press conference? Is it false bravado,or do these guys feel that they have the Thunder right where they want them?
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Re: Game 1 Post Game NBA Finals 

Post#323 » by WD » Wed Jun 13, 2012 5:25 am

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WD wrote:All I want is for this coach to win us 1 GAME - tonight could have been THAT GAME


In the first half i would have to reluctantly admit that Spo was outcoaching Brooks, then Brooks decided to make adjustments in the 3rd and bang. It got worse though because even after everyone has seen the same old KD song and dance in the 4th for years where they just give it to him and say shoot he still couldn't do the simple task of Bron on Durant to try and cool him off to allow us to get back into it.

Our coach has that "Deer in the headlights" look when we get punched in the mouth, I keep waiting for him to actually COACH. In Game 6 and 7 against BOSTON, there was no caching needed...TONIGHT there was. They say "the playoffs starts when the home team loses" well for me COACHING starts "when the shots aren't falling."
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Re: Game 1 Post Game NBA Finals 

Post#324 » by ecnirp » Wed Jun 13, 2012 5:25 am

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coolstorybro wrote:I swear if Mike Miller plays next game I'll flip out.

Playing more players? Fine with me.

Just don't play Miller. He's done, washed up, finished.

Now I understand why he's putting his house up for sale. Time to head to the retirement homes of Scottsdale, Arizona (Supposedly has the oldest population in the U.S.)

This.

Dude was on Harden for one possession and I was holding my breath. Luckily he missed a make-able shot.

Then, Russell just went to town on him. Dude has no legs. That is clear from him not being able to keep who he is defending in front of him, and from how short his jumpers were. They were clanking off the front of the rim.

The dude can't even foul hard to prevent someone from getting from the basket. See-- that Russel and-1. He came over just in time, but did not have it in him to do anything more than give him a tap that allowed him to make the shot.

Put him on ice. He's done.


I KNOW ITS CRAZY....

But Harris.....I say give Harris some minutes....Need athletes on the floor...Give him 3-5 minutes in the 1st half...See how he plays...
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Re: Game 1 Post Game NBA Finals 

Post#325 » by DefenseWins » Wed Jun 13, 2012 5:26 am

I think we can win if Spo does manage peoples minutes better.

Wade can't play 42 minutes....

JJ will have to come in or something, or even Cole. Cole is athletic atleast

Screw the whole big line up thing, WE GOT OWNED BY FISHER.
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Re: Game 1 Post Game NBA Finals 

Post#326 » by WD » Wed Jun 13, 2012 5:27 am

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OtW wrote:Look at the coverage OKC is getting in their locker room after one win.
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Can't stand to see all the Durant creaming that will be done if they win. For our sake, we better adjust, get our heads right, and win this **** convincingly. These kids should not win a ring before us. This is OUR year.


Give the kid credit. He balled out tonight, especially in the 4th. I think that ticky tack foul on Haslem at the end of the 3rd gave him some momentum. He made 2 FTs ( he didnt score the majority of the 3rd), got some confidence and came out firing.

Again...If Spo switched LeBron on him.....Durant would have got his.....But not as easy...and it wouldnt have been that many points imo. Maybe just 11 from Durant. Oh well. Just couldnt stop the bleeding all night.

If we would have won, these same people would be all over Lebron, let's be fair - can't complain about the poison if it's given to both teams
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Re: Game 1 Post Game NBA Finals 

Post#327 » by ecnirp » Wed Jun 13, 2012 5:30 am

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OtW wrote:Look at the coverage OKC is getting in their locker room after one win.
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Can't stand to see all the Durant creaming that will be done if they win. For our sake, we better adjust, get our heads right, and win this **** convincingly. These kids should not win a ring before us. This is OUR year.


In a ideal world,that would be the case.But alas,crap happens when you make mistakes,and allow a young,talented and hungry team to linger.

Sidenote:Why the heck was D-wade and Lebron laughing,on their way up to the podium for their press conference? Is it false bravado,or do these guys feel that they have the Thunder right where they want them?


THIS WILL BE THE REALEST STATEMENT MADE IN THIS THREAD...

And it hurts me to say...

But THE HEAT'S YEAR.......was last year. Meaning....No way should the Heat have lost last year. Blame goes to LeBron and Spo. The Heat should have one in the books already. Imagine LeBron/Wade/Bosh...KNOWING they got it done already? They'd be so pressure free and just play ball. And would be trying for a repeat.

That monkey on the Heat's back is still there and they feel it.

This is why...I know its UNREALISTIC to expect LeBron to average 35/36. But he basically has to put at least Celtics series #s to make up for what he did in last year's finals. Im hoping LeBron can DOMINATE to make up for the title should have been gotten last year. Wade has regressed...but LeBron didnt do his job last year. Im hoping LeBron carries the Heat to a championship...HE's GOING TO HAVE TO DO IT! Im talking DWADE style 2006. LeBron's got it in him. Im just hoping he's able to do it.
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Re: Game 1 Post Game NBA Finals 

Post#328 » by OtW » Wed Jun 13, 2012 5:30 am

DefenseWins wrote:I think we can win if Spo does manage peoples minutes better.

Wade can't play 42 minutes....

JJ will have to come in or something, or even Cole. Cole is athletic atleast

Screw the whole big line up thing, WE GOT OWNED BY FISHER.

You mean to tell me that we can size up and chase down block Ray Allen but we can't do that to 37 year old Fisher?

I mean look, the dude is JACKED and I'd be scared to get into a fight with him.

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but he can't be THAT intimidating for our defense to just allow him a clear path like that.

DERRICK FISHER BLEW PAST SOMEONE. A YOUNGER GUY DID NOT STAY IN FRONT OF DERRICK **** FISHER.
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Re: Game 1 Post Game NBA Finals 

Post#329 » by Miamis3rdRing » Wed Jun 13, 2012 5:31 am

Put him on ice. He's done.


Harsh but true. It must be done.

But Harris.....I say give Harris some minutes....Need athletes on the floor...Give him 3-5 minutes in the 1st half...See how he plays...


I actually wouldn't mind that. There is NO WAY that Harris is worse than Miller at this stage. It would be impossible. He'd have to be shooting in OKC's basket for that to happen.

What did you guys think of Joel's play? I didn't pay attention to him at all and was completely irrational by the time they took the lead lol. How was his defense?
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Re: Game 1 Post Game NBA Finals 

Post#330 » by DefenseWins » Wed Jun 13, 2012 5:33 am

I think that's too far trying Harris in the Finals when we haven't all year.

But Cole, JJ or Joel, I'd like over Miller.

Especially Joel, OUR FREAKIN' BEST DEFENDER AND SHOTBLOCKER...
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Re: Game 1 Post Game NBA Finals 

Post#331 » by ecnirp » Wed Jun 13, 2012 5:34 am

ecnirp wrote:
Carlos4Heat wrote:
OtW wrote:Look at the coverage OKC is getting in their locker room after one win.
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Can't stand to see all the Durant creaming that will be done if they win. For our sake, we better adjust, get our heads right, and win this **** convincingly. These kids should not win a ring before us. This is OUR year.


In a ideal world,that would be the case.But alas,crap happens when you make mistakes,and allow a young,talented and hungry team to linger.

Sidenote:Why the heck was D-wade and Lebron laughing,on their way up to the podium for their press conference? Is it false bravado,or do these guys feel that they have the Thunder right where they want them?


THIS WILL BE THE REALEST STATEMENT MADE IN THIS THREAD...

And it hurts me to say...

But THE HEAT'S YEAR.......was last year. Meaning....No way should the Heat have lost last year. Blame goes to LeBron and Spo. The Heat should have one in the books already. Imagine LeBron/Wade/Bosh...KNOWING they got it done already? They'd be so pressure free and just play ball. And would be trying for a repeat.

That monkey on the Heat's back is still there and they feel it.

This is why...I know its UNREALISTIC to expect LeBron to average 35/36. But he basically has to put at least Celtics series #s to make up for what he did in last year's finals. Im hoping LeBron can DOMINATE to make up for the title should have been gotten last year. Wade has regressed...but LeBron didnt do his job last year. Im hoping LeBron carries the Heat to a championship...HE's GOING TO HAVE TO DO IT! Im talking DWADE style 2006. LeBron's got it in him. Im just hoping he's able to do it.


Further sums up my point

by mystir on Tue Jun 12, 2012 11:54 pm

Heat fan here. I want to discuss LeBron's performance tonight as I've been thinking about it for the last hour.

But first, Dwyane Wade.

Wade, unfortunately, cannot beat him man off the dribble right now. I'm not going to make excuses and say he's injured, but he can't do it. He hasn't been able to do it consistently for a few months now. He's going to have a lot of games like this if he continues to take the majority of his shots in an isolation offense. Did he have a "bad game" ? By his career standards, yes, but based off his performances this postseason, this game should have been completely expected.

So James puts up 30 points, 9 rebounds, 4 assists (4 turnovers) in 46 minutes. This is equivalent to 24 points, 7 rebounds, 3 assists in a normal 36 minute game. This falls short, unfortunately. Way short.

With Wade struggling like he is, if you were to take Durant and James off these teams, OKC would sweep the Heat. So if Miami has any chance in this series, it will come down to LeBron James playing exceptionally well.

Is this fair to LeBron? No. But he has now a chance at redemption for single handedly costing MIami the championship last season. He needs to do something great. Whether it's 30/20 games or 40/10 games or 30/10/10 games, or even just having solid stat night but dominating on defense and slowing down Kevin Durant. An inspired performance is needed at this point.

This is all assuming OKC doesn't choke and continues playing at the high level they've displayed all postseason.
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Re: Game 1 Post Game NBA Finals 

Post#332 » by OtW » Wed Jun 13, 2012 5:35 am

Maybe we should force the Thunder to wear Knicks jerseys? Lin jerseys?

Clearly our guys only care about beating down NYK players. Maybe if they wore Lin jerseys (the Thunder), the Heat would crate a game plan to hold them all under 10 pts, just like they did to Jeremy Lin?
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Re: Game 1 Post Game NBA Finals 

Post#333 » by WD » Wed Jun 13, 2012 5:35 am

Just had to post these quotes before I go to bed

Observations from Tuesday night's 105-94 loss to the Oklahoma City Thunder at Chesapeake Energy Arena:

 -- Because this is what the kids do in the second half. They wear you down.
-- Especially when Erik Spoelstra only truly trusted six players, and two of them closed in foul trouble.
-- Erik Spoelstra spoke before the game of playing eight, which seemingly would make Bosh, Mike Miller and Joel Anthony the reserves of choice in this series.
-- Mario Chalmers was called for his fourth foul with 1:27 to play in the third. With Spoelstra yet to play Norris Cole, Wade had to reenter.
-- It was a tight, tight, tight rotation.
-- Perhaps too tight against the relentless youth of the Thunder.
-- Mike Miller is the nicest guy in the world, but unless Spoelstra goes to a zone, Miller simply cannot move well enough to be involved in something of this athletic magnitude.
-- Spoelstra changed it all up at outset: LeBron on Perkins, Battier on Durant, Wade on Westbrook, Chalmers on Thabo. No wonder he wasn't talkative in the days and hours leading to the game.
-- LeBron again jumped center, because when you do it all, you do it all. He lost the tip.
-- Spoelstra on LeBron James possibly going 48 minutes in a game this series, "We have 12 games left, I know he has the mentality, 'I'll do whatever it takes.' "
-- Spoelstra, in his pregame media session, spoke about how "you have to survive" to get to this point, "You can never take it for granted."
-- Thunder coach Scott Brooks on Spoelstra delaying his Bosh decision until just before tipoff, "It doesn't matter . . . we have guys who can guard multiple positions."
-- Spoelstra, one why he waits until just before game time to reveal his starting lineups, "One, it's one of the few opportunities that's my right, you know. Secondly, and more importantly, I just want them focusing. Everybody knows what we're doing. I want to keep the noise to minimum."
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Re: Game 1 Post Game NBA Finals 

Post#334 » by WD » Wed Jun 13, 2012 5:37 am

We're only down 1 game
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Re: Game 1 Post Game NBA Finals 

Post#335 » by DefenseWins » Wed Jun 13, 2012 5:38 am

By the way, notice that Brooks did counter our line up.

It was suppose to be Ibaka vs Bosh right? Ibaka wasn't even there at the end. It was Collison who's a better defender. Ibaka just blocks people.

Thabo instead of Harden, FISHER WAS EVEN IN THERE

Got owned by Collison and Thabo at the end there defensively. That cannot happen.

They went with defense and it worked. We missed an opportunity to not have Harden in there too... triple threat on offense. Fisher sucks but is clutch.

We're playing with fire.... or shall I say... thunder lol. lame I know but whatever.
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Re: Game 1 Post Game NBA Finals 

Post#336 » by OtW » Wed Jun 13, 2012 5:39 am

:( noooooo JJ.

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It's turns out the shortened rotation Erik Spoelstra spoke of was because of a migraine that kept James Jones out. http://sunsent.nl/KSrof1
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Post#337 » by WD » Wed Jun 13, 2012 5:40 am

DefenseWins wrote:By the way, notice that Brooks did counter our line up.

It was suppose to be Ibaka vs Bosh right? Ibaka wasn't even there at the end. It was Collison who's a better defender. Ibaka just blocks people.

Thabo instead of Harden, FISHER WAS EVEN IN THERE

Got owned by Collison and Thabo at the end there defensively. That cannot happen.

They went with defense and it worked. We missed an opportunity to not have Harden in there too... triple threat on offense. Fisher sucks but is clutch.

We're playing with fire.... or shall I say... thunder lol. lame I know but whatever.

seriously, don't you wish someone else would give the pre-game and sideline speeches - good night
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Re: Game 1 Post Game NBA Finals 

Post#338 » by DefenseWins » Wed Jun 13, 2012 5:40 am

WD wrote:-- LeBron again jumped center, because when you do it all, you do it all. He lost the tip.
-- Spoelstra on LeBron James possibly going 48 minutes in a game this series, "We have 12 games left, I know he has the mentality, 'I'll do whatever it takes.' "



12 games left? what?????
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Post#339 » by WD » Wed Jun 13, 2012 5:40 am

DefenseWins wrote:
WD wrote:-- LeBron again jumped center, because when you do it all, you do it all. He lost the tip.
-- Spoelstra on LeBron James possibly going 48 minutes in a game this series, "We have 12 games left, I know he has the mentality, 'I'll do whatever it takes.' "



12 games left? what?????

see what I'm saying, what does that mean? can't make this stuff up - http://www.sun-sentinel.com/sports/miam ... 7832.story

must be a typo
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Post#340 » by EscapoTHB » Wed Jun 13, 2012 5:40 am

WD wrote:We're only down 1 game


Yeah but it's all over. We lost a road game in the finals. To the best team from the Western conference.

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