Game 32: Pacers @ Heat 01/02/2025 7:30 PM ET

[wade44]

Then you have a lottery pick this summer.

That the worst possible outcome. That means the OK pick and the CHA pick we own become unprotected. Us getting a lottery pick this year would be a disaster, like Pat getting fired on the spot bad.

It's actually the best outcome imo. You still retain 2026 flexibility which is clearly what this is all about. Getting lottery pick + point Jovic (just wait for it) and lads run it next season convey 2026 pick. Who cares about 2028 the team is rebuilt.

Think like a project manager not a FEMA agent

Who cares how the 2028 team is rebuilt? After a slew of misguided decisions to get the team where it is right now I’m not sure this Heat team can be trusted anymore to make the right decision moving forward. They should convey the pick at all costs in my mind and have the 2028 first rounder available with the nba being an ever changing landscape. Bam will be into his 30s and who knows how his game ages. Bam and Herro are good players but lack leadership skills. Simply saying who cares about the 28’ pick is not the correct approach. Too many things that can go wrong in the current nba as we’ve seen the past half decade of poor roster decisions by the management

[NightWatch]

Tf with jimmy with only 9 pts? I haven’t watch the game yet. Do Jimmy actually wants to get the f out or is he bluffing?

However, I watched pelicans vs Heat. Spo didn’t even play Jimmy nearly the entire 4th quarter. Honestly, I don’t even remember if he played in the 4th quarter at all but I know with certainly that he didnt play the last 5 minutes of the game when pelican was catching up. I think that was somewhat the boiling point.


Honestly, if Heat traded butler right now Miami can forget about making the Final for 5-6 years.

[NightWatch]

Have to keep in mind whatever return we get for Jimmy needs to keep us competitive enough THIS SEASON to convey the pick to OKC and avoid disaster.

This team minus Jimmy is simply not good enough to get to that point

Heat makes the playoffs without jimmy the way its currently built.

False. Some games Heat would’ve lost without jimmy.

[NightWatch]

Ah well, cant be too naive right? Hes literally done this everywhere hes gone.

too much drama

But Pat started it when he told Jimmy to shut the f up

[eddieheatfan]

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he gone ppl. dude is a problematic drama queen that's who he is

[KingDavid]

I didnt see the game yet
but wow its time

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Oh he's gone, gone.

[eddieheatfan]

Ah well, cant be too naive right? Hes literally done this everywhere hes gone.

too much drama

But Pat started it when he told Jimmy to shut the f up

pat did the correct thing after finding out that he coasted most of the game. this impacts the whole team overall in a pretty negative way.

(some will think why i should give my all when this guy is just not giving his 100 percent, a max player at that mind you)

[Flash4thewin]

too much drama

But Pat started it when he told Jimmy to shut the f up

pat did the correct thing after finding out that he coasted most of the game. this impacts the whole team overall in a pretty negative way.

(some will think why i should give my all when this guy is just not giving his 100 percent, a max player at that mind you)

This basically implies Pat is incompetent and senile. Of course Jimmy coast during the regular season and thats ok because he shows up in the playoffs. Our team should be making the playoffs, Jimmy or no Jimmy. If the regular season is now suddenly more important than the playoffs, Pat should have a word with Spo and his make it up as you go random rotations that cost us multiple games during the year.

[eddieheatfan]

But Pat started it when he told Jimmy to shut the f up

pat did the correct thing after finding out that he coasted most of the game. this impacts the whole team overall in a pretty negative way.

(some will think why i should give my all when this guy is just not giving his 100 percent, a max player at that mind you)

This basically implies Pat is incompetent and senile. Of course Jimmy coast during the regular season and thats ok because he shows up in the playoffs. Our team should be making the playoffs, Jimmy or no Jimmy. If the regular season is now suddenly more important than the playoffs, Pat should have a word with Spo and his make it up as you go random rotations that cost us multiple games during the year.

whatever. we all know that jimmy loves to coast for at least 30 percent of the season. while other max players in the NBA doesnt do this. sorry but that's a terrible disposition to have for the team and the fanbase


are you okay with the heat reaching the play -ins late in the season?

[Flash4thewin]

pat did the correct thing after finding out that he coasted most of the game. this impacts the whole team overall in a pretty negative way.

(some will think why i should give my all when this guy is just not giving his 100 percent, a max player at that mind you)

This basically implies Pat is incompetent and senile. Of course Jimmy coast during the regular season and thats ok because he shows up in the playoffs. Our team should be making the playoffs, Jimmy or no Jimmy. If the regular season is now suddenly more important than the playoffs, Pat should have a word with Spo and his make it up as you go random rotations that cost us multiple games during the year.

whatever. we all know that jimmy loves to coast for at least 30 percent of the season. while other max players in the NBA doesnt do this. sorry but that's a terrible disposition to have for the team and the fanbase


are you okay with the heat reaching the play -ins late in the season?

I want us to make the playoffs to convey our pick. Ideally we start playing Ware more. The goal should be playoffs this season to pay our pick. That will open up more opportunities down the road. Our front office wants the playoffs to get that playoff money.

[Hoops3355]

That the worst possible outcome. That means the OK pick and the CHA pick we own become unprotected. Us getting a lottery pick this year would be a disaster, like Pat getting fired on the spot bad.

It's actually the best outcome imo. You still retain 2026 flexibility which is clearly what this is all about. Getting lottery pick + point Jovic (just wait for it) and lads run it next season convey 2026 pick. Who cares about 2028 the team is rebuilt.

Think like a project manager not a FEMA agent

Who cares how the 2028 team is rebuilt? After a slew of misguided decisions to get the team where it is right now I’m not sure this Heat team can be trusted anymore to make the right decision moving forward. They should convey the pick at all costs in my mind and have the 2028 first rounder available with the nba being an ever changing landscape. Bam will be into his 30s and who knows how his game ages. Bam and Herro are good players but lack leadership skills. Simply saying who cares about the 28’ pick is not the correct approach. Too many things that can go wrong in the current nba as we’ve seen the past half decade of poor roster decisions by the management

I can't help you if you believe this. You guys are spent the last 4 years crying over hindsight. It's not Pat and Co's fault that Jimmy is a regular season bum and we never had the assets to make a move. The only truly questionable call was signing Kyle Lowry at the time we should have known better but Jimmy got what he wanted a 30 million dollar anchor.

[Bishop45]

Sorry Butler. Youd look great in a Rox jersey.

Who you like on Rox, Dom?

I was having a Fanta sea of GG Jackson/ JJJ and pick or Cason Wallace, Lu Dort, Hartenstein

Sumn like dat

[jbsays]

Honestly, I think if Butler leaves or sits out Heat still make the playoffs as long as everyone is (mostly) healthy. They're not getting out of the first round. Maybe this brings the rest of the team together and they want to show what they can do?

I'm just wondering how long its going to be until Spo starts giving Bam and Ware some minutes together? I think defensively Bam is good enough he can guard bigger wings (i.e. PF) no problem. Ware looks like he can space the floor offensively so you're not going to have two guys packing the paint. Hell even Bam doesn't spend all his time offensively in the paint with all his mid range shots.

Highsmith
Bam
Ware

is a pretty solid defensive front court.

[NightWatch]

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he gone ppl. dude is a problematic drama queen that's who he is

So you don’t appreciate jimmy? Do you realize without jimmy, Heat wouldn’t have made these last 2 finals?

[DayofMourning]

Sorry Butler. Youd look great in a Rox jersey.

Who you like on Rox, Dom?

I was having a Fanta sea of GG Jackson/ JJJ and pick or Cason Wallace, Lu Dort, Hartenstein

Sumn like dat

Cason and Hstein would be very nice adds. I think OKC would be crazy to add Butler. He gonna want the ball over SGA.

[NightWatch]

Honestly, I think if Butler leaves or sits out Heat still make the playoffs as long as everyone is (mostly) healthy. They're not getting out of the first round. Maybe this brings the rest of the team together and they want to show what they can do?

I'm just wondering how long its going to be until Spo starts giving Bam and Ware some minutes together? I think defensively Bam is good enough he can guard bigger wings (i.e. PF) no problem. Ware looks like he can space the floor offensively so you're not going to have two guys packing the paint. Hell even Bam doesn't spend all his time offensively in the paint with all his mid range shots.

Highsmith
Bam
Ware

is a pretty solid defensive front court.

You need jimmy to get you to the final. It’s not happening without jimmy whoever heat traded him for even Kevin Durant will not get the Heat to the final.

[jbsays]

Honestly, I think if Butler leaves or sits out Heat still make the playoffs as long as everyone is (mostly) healthy. They're not getting out of the first round. Maybe this brings the rest of the team together and they want to show what they can do?

I'm just wondering how long its going to be until Spo starts giving Bam and Ware some minutes together? I think defensively Bam is good enough he can guard bigger wings (i.e. PF) no problem. Ware looks like he can space the floor offensively so you're not going to have two guys packing the paint. Hell even Bam doesn't spend all his time offensively in the paint with all his mid range shots.

Highsmith
Bam
Ware

is a pretty solid defensive front court.

You need jimmy to get you to the final. It’s not happening without jimmy whoever heat traded him for even Kevin Durant will not get the Heat to the final.

I don't think they make the finals WITH Jimmy anymore. So at this point why pay him $50 million for three years? Time to move on.

[NightWatch]

Honestly, I think if Butler leaves or sits out Heat still make the playoffs as long as everyone is (mostly) healthy. They're not getting out of the first round. Maybe this brings the rest of the team together and they want to show what they can do?

I'm just wondering how long its going to be until Spo starts giving Bam and Ware some minutes together? I think defensively Bam is good enough he can guard bigger wings (i.e. PF) no problem. Ware looks like he can space the floor offensively so you're not going to have two guys packing the paint. Hell even Bam doesn't spend all his time offensively in the paint with all his mid range shots.

Highsmith
Bam
Ware

is a pretty solid defensive front court.

You need jimmy to get you to the final. It’s not happening without jimmy whoever heat traded him for even Kevin Durant will not get the Heat to the final.

I don't think they make the finals WITH Jimmy anymore. So at this point why pay him $50 million for three years? Time to move on.

So you are doubting jimmy? Heat wasn’t supposed to be in these last two finals somehow they did. I bet you thought Heat shouldn’t have been these finals. Did you somehow forget that Heat was in the Final one season ago? I can almost guarantee that Heat could’ve won a championship if they were playing the mavs last season. Too bad jimmy got injured early in the playoffs

[eddieheatfan]

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he gone ppl. dude is a problematic drama queen that's who he is

So you don’t appreciate jimmy? Do you realize without jimmy, Heat wouldn’t have made these last 2 finals?

whatever he build with his hands he just tore all that down with his feet by being a prima donna. i have no issues here if you like him as a player. but now i certainly dont but i also blame front office for not bringing the adequate talent to surround him with. i fully understand that part of the equation.

both him and FO has let me down with their failures to perform as expected

[Heat3]

Pat about to trade Jimmy and bring help for Tyler Herro