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greg4012 wrote:3ammy3uck3ts wrote:
Damn dude--at this rate Jaime may not be able to help us with the dream of a fox trade. Really hope this Jimmy debacle gets wrapped up soon and Jaime finds some level footing.
3ammy3uck3ts wrote:
greg4012 wrote:batterybro42 wrote:3ammy3uck3ts wrote:And this notion that Bam has to be a knockdown shooter if he’s playing the 4 is also wrong. Theyre obviously working to develop that over the season and into the summer and rightfully so but he could literally not shoot 3s and it still wouldn’t matter as long as Ware is hitting them at a respectable clip (like we saw year 1 with KO and Meyers) and then also factor in whoever we replace Jimmy with im going to assume is a much better/more willing shooter.
Everything is not so extreme, believe it or not the sky is not falling. Chill tf out and let it play itself out
KO and Meyers were stretch 5s and basically able to be handled the same way PJ Tucker was handled within the offense. Ware is not going to be the guy camped in the corner waiting for the ball off actions. Ware is going to be the primary screener, lob threat, and rim runner moving forward. Bam is going to have to change positions. He's currently firing straight piss missiles at the backboard, and looking like a fish out of water on offense. There is growing sentiment that Bam is not going to be capable of making that adjustment, considering he spent the entire last offseason trying to make it and this is what we are left with. People are making it seem like Bam just started trying to shoot and change his game. He has been trying to do that his entire career. Every offseason it gets hyped only to see him regress back into try hard dunk man. At a certain point you have to assume that is what he is. For a ton of NBA teams that is perfect, but not when that collides with the 20 year unicorn you drafted, who is already outpacing him in the paint on both ends.
KO, Meyers and PJ Tucker each occupied completely different parts of the court and had distinct functions in the offense from each other (esp Tucker). But, the fact that each were reliable shooting from 3, even at mid to low volume shows how it works with Bam.
Bam quite literally never tried shooting 3s or incorporate that into his game until the back half of last season.
batterybro42 wrote:I just don't understand
Enso wrote:Jimmy holding up the whole market
Wonder why he’s so against Memphis pretty strange, seems like a good fit for his country lovin ass lol
greg4012 wrote:batterybro42 wrote:I just don't understand
Agreed
batterybro42 wrote:greg4012 wrote:batterybro42 wrote:I just don't understand
Agreed
LOL
Time will tell, me personally it is time to cash out on Bam while some people still feel the same way you do
I am of the opinion that bam cannot change on the offensive side... He is too into his roll as a center already... He can change in the defensive side ...bam looks open-minded And he has traveled the role of guarding anybodyIceColdCubano wrote:al bondiga wrote:For me the next few years are CRUCIAL for bam... He has the daunting Task of getting rid of the notion in his head that he is a center Or he will gradually become a third wheel...
spo man... You'r crazy notions may have lost the heat The second best player figure in its history
You have to make up for it
He already is a third wheel atleast on the offensive side.
The issue that was not discussed here, is while the Ware/Bam combo would elevate the team on defense. It would not work on offense until Bam can play like a forward, and improve his shooting/face up game/mid-post/back to the basket.
The easy points that were on the table before, the rim runs, the rolling to the basket, the offensive put backs, and the dump passes down low on mismatch are mostly going to go to Ware. So Bam now has to do self creation far more.
Either this is just a down season for Bam, and next year he comes in with a respectable jumper. Its not even about 3pt jumper at this point, hes not going to shoot enough for him to have gravity with it, its about now having self creation. He needs to improve his faceup game, back to the basket post game if he wants to eat again at the basket.
greg4012 wrote:batterybro42 wrote:greg4012 wrote:
Agreed
LOL
Time will tell, me personally it is time to cash out on Bam while some people still feel the same way you do
More often than not people that think like I do don't end up on the sucker side
batterybro42 wrote:greg4012 wrote:batterybro42 wrote:
LOL
Time will tell, me personally it is time to cash out on Bam while some people still feel the same way you do
More often than not people that think like I do don't end up on the sucker side
Sure thing Jerry West
wadenation305 wrote:3ammy3uck3ts wrote:
The constant here seems to be Jaquez, Idk how much of that has to do with Spo and not putting him in the best spots, vs that is who he is. At this point there is no way in hell I trade Ware for anybody that is not like a top 3 player. I wouldn't move Jovic, JJJ would be the odd man out as trade bait.
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greg4012 wrote:batterybro42 wrote:greg4012 wrote:
Agreed
LOL
Time will tell, me personally it is time to cash out on Bam while some people still feel the same way you do
More often than not people that think like I do don't end up on the sucker side
DayofMourning wrote:greg4012 wrote:batterybro42 wrote:
LOL
Time will tell, me personally it is time to cash out on Bam while some people still feel the same way you do
More often than not people that think like I do don't end up on the sucker side
A Thunder fan on the T&T thread commented he wouldnt trade IH, Cason and picks for Bam.
Nothing against Bam, but I cant say I blame him. Those dudes are doing work for OKC.
greg4012 wrote:DayofMourning wrote:greg4012 wrote:
More often than not people that think like I do don't end up on the sucker side
A Thunder fan on the T&T thread commented he wouldnt trade IH, Cason and picks for Bam.
Nothing against Bam, but I cant say I blame him. Those dudes are doing work for OKC.
That's exactly the point--if you believe that Bam's value will never be higher than it is right now then I understand logically why you want to trade Bam immediately. I just think that's misplaced belief.
Also fans are pretty damn silly on those boards. Esp in middle of regular season.