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Post#341 » by twix2500 » Wed Jun 23, 2021 4:58 pm

I have faith in Bam will develop confidence in his shooting abilities as Justise fans had 5 yrs of hope that he was a point guard.

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Post#342 » by IggieCC » Wed Jun 23, 2021 7:02 pm

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IggieCC wrote:So Bam is an undersized non-shooting center who needs a stud shooting 4 to function properly. Jimmy is the new Pandemic P and we're banking on KZ Okape to come through?

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I sometimes wonder if Okpala’s biggest fans actually watched him really play :lol:. On a side note i would hope for our 6’9 and up athletic stretch 4 weighs more then 230 pounds to bang down low. Jae Crowder even though only 6’6 is able to play the 4 well with his Joe Booty/Barkley/Tucker stout build. Okpala though listed at 215 looks like he’s a buck ninety wet.

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well some fans are more patient with young good looking players with some upside. Others have seen enough NBA basketball to know that there is something fundamentally wrong when a player can't make layups and/or wide open corner 3s don't go straight to the rim. Not saying Okape is hopeless, but he's still way smack in the middle of the development stage. He's the poorest man of Brandon Ingram, a shooter who cannot shoot. Give him some pork panda
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Post#343 » by BenoUdrihFTL » Wed Jun 23, 2021 7:10 pm

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Post#344 » by RexBoyWonder » Wed Jun 23, 2021 7:23 pm

i believe in KZ.

He'll show up JACKED next year, with more confidence and a bigger role.

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Post#345 » by twix2500 » Wed Jun 23, 2021 8:07 pm

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IggieCC wrote:So Bam is an undersized non-shooting center who needs a stud shooting 4 to function properly. Jimmy is the new Pandemic P and we're banking on KZ Okape to come through?

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I sometimes wonder if Okpala’s biggest fans actually watched him really play . On a side note i would hope for our 6’9 and up athletic stretch 4 weighs more then 230 pounds to bang down low. Jae Crowder even though only 6’6 is able to play the 4 well with his Joe Booty/Barkley/Tucker stout build. Okpala though listed at 215 looks like he’s a buck ninety wet.

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well some fans are more patient with young good looking players with some upside. Others have seen enough NBA basketball to know that there is something fundamentally wrong when a player can't make layups and/or wide open corner 3s don't go straight to the rim. Not saying Okape is hopeless, but he's still way smack in the middle of the development stage. He's the poorest man of Brandon Ingram, a shooter who cannot shoot. Give him some pork panda
Missing layups and missing 3 pointers is the criteria for not waiting to develop a player now.... ok

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Post#346 » by Bishop45 » Wed Jun 23, 2021 8:15 pm

I don't care what position Bam plays, I just need him to shoot. If your number 1/number 2 option won't shoot you're ultimately cooked
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Post#347 » by IggieCC » Wed Jun 23, 2021 8:19 pm

twix2500 wrote:
IggieCC wrote:
MettaWorldPanda wrote:I sometimes wonder if Okpala’s biggest fans actually watched him really play . On a side note i would hope for our 6’9 and up athletic stretch 4 weighs more then 230 pounds to bang down low. Jae Crowder even though only 6’6 is able to play the 4 well with his Joe Booty/Barkley/Tucker stout build. Okpala though listed at 215 looks like he’s a buck ninety wet.

LMAO

well some fans are more patient with young good looking players with some upside. Others have seen enough NBA basketball to know that there is something fundamentally wrong when a player can't make layups and/or wide open corner 3s don't go straight to the rim. Not saying Okape is hopeless, but he's still way smack in the middle of the development stage. He's the poorest man of Brandon Ingram, a shooter who cannot shoot. Give him some pork panda
Missing layups and missing 3 pointers is the criteria for not waiting to develop a player now.... ok

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Post#348 » by IggieCC » Wed Jun 23, 2021 8:22 pm

Never gets old lol

joking aside, I don't really have much opinions on KZ one way or the other. I know that he's got ways to go. Every team has (should have) one of those players who might amount to something and it's a low risk potentially high return. i ain't losing sleep over it.
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Post#349 » by IggieCC » Wed Jun 23, 2021 8:33 pm

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LMAO that was ridiculous.

and thanks to ass decision to reward Clippers the ball with PBev's swipe at the ball, the best defensive tactic in last 2 mins is to reach hard to swipe the heck out of the ball for review. refs would be too busy checking to see who the ball left the last than seeing actual reaching/illegal defense itself.
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Post#350 » by AirP. » Wed Jun 23, 2021 8:52 pm

Did Crowder (by NBA rules) get away with a violation by taking a step with each foot to give himself a better position to make the pass? They were small steps but they still were steps and not pivots. Throwing the ball in from a made shot/FT you have the whole out of bounds to run left and right to get the ball in, on all other throw ins you have to be stationary and can take a step.

Just saw someone started a thread on the general forum about this... sorry.

Why does this seem to be the first time I remember seeing a player do this and this situation happens many times in the year when it's the last play of the game and they put a big guy on the guy throwing the ball in.

At best the rule needs to be more clearly defined by the NBA.

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Post#351 » by IggieCC » Wed Jun 23, 2021 9:05 pm

AirP. wrote:I have a question that I haven't seen anyone ask yet and maybe I'm wrong on the rules but on Crowder's incredible pass, did he (by NBA rules) get away with a violation by taking a step with each foot to give himself a better position to make the pass? They were small steps but they still were steps and not pivots. Throwing the ball in from a made shot/FT you have the whole out of bounds to run left and right to get the ball in, on all other throw ins you have to be stationary and can take a step.

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He probably took a step but no one saw it and it's a moot, you can't go back and review uncalled plays. You could say the same thing about Ayton grabbing Zubac and shoving him straight to Booker's face lmao but didn't get called. You can get away with a whole vaerity of things in a 0.9 sec final possession. Young stars are often literally grabbed from behind with both arms so that they can't even catch the ball. The worst thing Jae could have done was hit the side of the backboard or maybe held onto the ball for about 8 seconds and got 5 sec violation (rarely called), or just threw a chitty pass for a desperation heave.



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Post#352 » by AirP. » Wed Jun 23, 2021 9:08 pm

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AirP. wrote:I have a question that I haven't seen anyone ask yet and maybe I'm wrong on the rules but on Crowder's incredible pass, did he (by NBA rules) get away with a violation by taking a step with each foot to give himself a better position to make the pass? They were small steps but they still were steps and not pivots. Throwing the ball in from a made shot/FT you have the whole out of bounds to run left and right to get the ball in, on all other throw ins you have to be stationary and can take a step.

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He probably took a step but no one saw it and it's a moot, you can't go back and review uncalled plays. You could say the same thing about Ayton grabbing Zubac and shoving him straight to Booker's face lmao but didn't get called. You can get away with a whole vaerity of things in a 0.9 sec final possession. Young stars are often literally grabbed from behind with both arms so that they can't even catch the ball. The worst thing Jae could have done was hit the side of the backboard or maybe held onto the ball for about 8 seconds and got 5 sec violation (rarely called), or just threw a chitty pass for a desperation heave.



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Didn't say go back and review it, I just wonder if he got away with a violation on the last play. Players get away with violations all the time, just wondering if this actually was one too.

I just think the NBA needs to be clearer on the rule which says 1 step either direction, doesn't say if that's length or if both feet can move. To me it's basically treating one foot(whichever they want) as the pivot foot and the other can take a step in either direction to pass the ball in.
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Post#353 » by IggieCC » Wed Jun 23, 2021 9:30 pm

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Didn't say go back and review it, I just wonder if he got away with a violation on the last play. Players get away with violations all the time, just wondering if this actually was one too.

I just think the NBA needs to be clearer on the rule which says 1 step either direction, doesn't say if that's length or if both feet can move. To me it's basically treating one foot(whichever they want) as the pivot foot and the other can take a step in either direction to pass the ball in.

def. violation to me but those were such minor steps that probably didn't give him much advantage. he didn't step sideways to avoid Cousins or anything. if you have to look strictly at inbound passers then you also have to enforce a whole bunch of other things (mostly grabbing of players) in last second of play and that's just crazy and nearly impossible. in one final shot kinda situation refs usually let them play (let em take the final shot) so offensive teams have some advantage imo and that's probably ok :dontknow:

if anything, Cousins and Zubac needed to close hard on that angle to the basket. if Booker hits a mid range fadeaway so be it
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Post#354 » by AirP. » Wed Jun 23, 2021 11:14 pm

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Didn't say go back and review it, I just wonder if he got away with a violation on the last play. Players get away with violations all the time, just wondering if this actually was one too.

I just think the NBA needs to be clearer on the rule which says 1 step either direction, doesn't say if that's length or if both feet can move. To me it's basically treating one foot(whichever they want) as the pivot foot and the other can take a step in either direction to pass the ball in.

def. violation to me but those were such minor steps that probably didn't give him much advantage. he didn't step sideways to avoid Cousins or anything. if you have to look strictly at inbound passers then you also have to enforce a whole bunch of other things (mostly grabbing of players) in last second of play and that's just crazy and nearly impossible. in one final shot kinda situation refs usually let them play (let em take the final shot) so offensive teams have some advantage imo and that's probably ok :dontknow:

if anything, Cousins and Zubac needed to close hard on that angle to the basket. if Booker hits a mid range fadeaway so be it

Violation... would have lost possession of the ball had the ref caught it.

It's just been my belief all these years that in the NBA that the out of bounds play was treated like someone picked up a dribble and since both feet were on the ground, either one of those could be the pivot foot, the only time when a player can move around is when throwing it in off a made basket. The NBA rules on this are quite vague on taking a step to the left or the right, might mean the other foot it the pivot, might not.

Right now, I'd just like to find out what the official stance on that play is to the NBA. I'm fine if it was a missed call, I'd just like to know it for future reference.
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Post#355 » by IggieCC » Wed Jun 23, 2021 11:50 pm

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Didn't say go back and review it, I just wonder if he got away with a violation on the last play. Players get away with violations all the time, just wondering if this actually was one too.

I just think the NBA needs to be clearer on the rule which says 1 step either direction, doesn't say if that's length or if both feet can move. To me it's basically treating one foot(whichever they want) as the pivot foot and the other can take a step in either direction to pass the ball in.

def. violation to me but those were such minor steps that probably didn't give him much advantage. he didn't step sideways to avoid Cousins or anything. if you have to look strictly at inbound passers then you also have to enforce a whole bunch of other things (mostly grabbing of players) in last second of play and that's just crazy and nearly impossible. in one final shot kinda situation refs usually let them play (let em take the final shot) so offensive teams have some advantage imo and that's probably ok :dontknow:

if anything, Cousins and Zubac needed to close hard on that angle to the basket. if Booker hits a mid range fadeaway so be it

Violation... would have lost possession of the ball had the ref caught it.

It's just been my belief all these years that in the NBA that the out of bounds play was treated like someone picked up a dribble and since both feet were on the ground, either one of those could be the pivot foot, the only time when a player can move around is when throwing it in off a made basket. The NBA rules on this are quite vague on taking a step to the left or the right, might mean the other foot it the pivot, might not.

Right now, I'd just like to find out what the official stance on that play is to the NBA. I'm fine if it was a missed call, I'd just like to know it for future reference.

If it's a missed call then it will be on the last 2 mins report (did that discontinue?). It will be interesting to find that out and if it's a missed call then it's a WCFs series changing blunder so should be addressed carefully going forward. We'll see P
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Post#356 » by AirP. » Thu Jun 24, 2021 12:41 am

IggieCC wrote:If it's a missed call then it will be on the last 2 mins report (did that discontinue?). It will be interesting to find that out and if it's a missed call then it's a WCFs series changing blunder so should be addressed carefully going forward. We'll see P

Not sure if that video was out at that the time the 2 minute report was created. I've only see one video that you can tell.
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Post#357 » by IggieCC » Thu Jun 24, 2021 12:46 am

can't get myself up to watch the hairy Qtip vs projectile vomit free throw machine battle.

wake me up when preszn starts OP :x

i mean it's great that we're gonna get Phoenix Suns vs Milwaukee Bucks finals for the first time ever but who's gonna watch that srsly lmao
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Post#358 » by MettaWorldPanda » Thu Jun 24, 2021 1:00 am

Hawks match up really well with Bucks but i got Bucks in 6. Holliday is going to be a problem for Trae Young.
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Post#359 » by IggieCC » Thu Jun 24, 2021 1:06 am

MettaWorldPanda wrote:Hawks match up really well with Bucks but i got Bucks in 6. Holliday is going to be a problem for Trae Young.

Hawks seem like one major signing away from true contention but they also have to max hairy lollipop and resign albino kid too. they have shown the willingness to spend, but not sure how much.. they'll be pain in the butt for us for the foreseeable future :x
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Post#360 » by MettaWorldPanda » Thu Jun 24, 2021 1:11 am

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MettaWorldPanda wrote:Hawks match up really well with Bucks but i got Bucks in 6. Holliday is going to be a problem for Trae Young.

Hawks seem like one major signing away from true contention but they also have to max hairy lollipop and resign albino kid too. they have shown the willingness to spend, but not sure how much.. they'll be pain in the butt for us for the foreseeable future :x

This is there team. They will pay Collins a bunch of money this offseason. They don’t need much. They drafted damn well. They’ll have MLE but doubt they are a tax above apron team. They just need the young guys to keep getting better.

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