Game 14: Miami Heat at Oklahoma City Thunder 11/15 Monday 8PM USA Eastern time (Tuesday 16/11 9AM - Perth Time)

[carnageta]

Herro > Tatum. lol

[3ammy3uck3ts]

Great win honestly. No Jimmy Bam Dipo or Morris and we’re able to get the job done, away against a team that had won 4 out of 5 coming in. This team is just on another level when Duncan is hitting his shot and playing with confidence, we have to have that in the playoffs this year if we want to win it all.

[RexBoyWonder]

Okpala made his first bucket as a Miami Heat Rex

I had my KZ game and I can let go now


You did well, sweet prince

farewell and godspeed

[SerialChiller]

I still don't think we can play Tucker these kind of minutes all season and expect him to have much in the tank by years end.

We really need Kieff back and have to find another front court player if Yurtseven is this much of a project.

Yep...this team is a solid backup pg, a solid big (for depth and extra size when needed), and a somewhat like his old self Oladipo away from being a very, very serious contender. If we manage that and get good outside shooting from the guys who should be knocking them down (mainly Lowry, Duncan, Herro, Tucker, Strus etc...) that team is almost unbeatable imo.

[puppa bear]

I still don't think we can play Tucker these kind of minutes all season and expect him to have much in the tank by years end.

We really need Kieff back and have to find another front court player if Yurtseven is this much of a project.

Yep...this team is a solid backup pg, a solid big (for depth and extra size when needed), and a somewhat like his old self Oladipo away from being a very, very serious contender. If we manage that and get good outside shooting from the guys who should be knocking them down (mainly Lowry, Duncan, Herro, Tucker, Strus etc...) that team is almost unbeatable imo.

I think we get Dipo back after the ASG, and then get 1-2 buy-out signings.

We’re already a serious contender, but health (like many other teams) is the key thing. When 100% healthy we’re pretty deep & balanced. But 1 or 2 injuries and we go from being a top-2 to losing HCA in the 1st.

[greg4012]

If Herro continue to average 23-25ppg per game. He should be our full SG starter next year.

We are seeing a glimpse on how he would look as a main guy and starter.

It’s disrespectful that he’s Not a starter now… not his fault the bench is poop…

This narrative is so garbage but fans love to find drama to cling to. Was it disrespectful for Manu Ginoboli to be 6th man for the Spurs on his way to a HOF career and 4x NBA championships? Or did it simply optimize rotations and opportunity for Ginobili to run the show and do what he wanted when he was on the floor?

Closing games and minutes played is what matters. Tyler will be a starter eventually but why do we want to create drama along the way? Does it seem in any form or fashion like the Heat franchise is marginalizing Tyler?

[greg4012]

I still don't think we can play Tucker these kind of minutes all season and expect him to have much in the tank by years end.

Agreed--that's what is killer about losing the gimmes to LA. Keeps more pressure on us to play our guys at the end of season. Need Morris back and to manage Tucker (and Lowry and Butler) for playoffs to varying extents

[greg4012]

We really need Kieff back and have to find another front court player if Yurtseven is this much of a project.

Yep...this team is a solid backup pg, a solid big (for depth and extra size when needed), and a somewhat like his old self Oladipo away from being a very, very serious contender. If we manage that and get good outside shooting from the guys who should be knocking them down (mainly Lowry, Duncan, Herro, Tucker, Strus etc...) that team is almost unbeatable imo.

I think we get Dipo back after the ASG, and then get 1-2 buy-out signings.

We’re already a serious contender, but health (like many other teams) is the key thing. When 100% healthy we’re pretty deep & balanced. But 1 or 2 injuries and we go from being a top-2 to losing HCA in the 1st.

Realistically, if we can get "a somewhat like his old self Oladipo" back then that solves the solid backup PG spot too. I know he is more SG/combo guard, but I have to imagine any bargain bin vet min backup PG would provide little to no upgrade over dipo as a part time ballhandler running offense.

Plus, just think of playoff minute distribution should dipo be back in form. 96 minutes split between the 2 guard spots per game. Lowry and Herro already make up 65-70 of those minutes. Duncan/Butler take up some minutes at SG. Dipo gets the remainder of minutes and we don't have space or need for another backup PG once playoff comes around (assuming health).

[puppa bear]

Yep...this team is a solid backup pg, a solid big (for depth and extra size when needed), and a somewhat like his old self Oladipo away from being a very, very serious contender. If we manage that and get good outside shooting from the guys who should be knocking them down (mainly Lowry, Duncan, Herro, Tucker, Strus etc...) that team is almost unbeatable imo.

I think we get Dipo back after the ASG, and then get 1-2 buy-out signings.

We’re already a serious contender, but health (like many other teams) is the key thing. When 100% healthy we’re pretty deep & balanced. But 1 or 2 injuries and we go from being a top-2 to losing HCA in the 1st.

Realistically, if we can get "a somewhat like his old self Oladipo" back then that solves the solid backup PG spot too. I know he is more SG/combo guard, but I have to imagine any bargain bin vet min backup PG would provide little to no upgrade over dipo as a part time ballhandler running offense.

Plus, just think of playoff minute distribution should dipo be back in form. 96 minutes split between the 2 guard spots per game. Lowry and Herro already make up 65-70 of those minutes. Duncan/Butler take up some minutes at SG. Dipo gets the remainder of minutes and we don't have space or need for another backup PG once playoff comes around (assuming health).

We should be looking at the 5 players roaring through 3 spots (Lowry/Jimmy/Herro/Duncan/Dipo). That way we’re looking at 144 minutes, with almost half going to Lowry/Jimmy. There’s about 75-80 to spread around & Duncan will take 25 or so, leave about 25 each (on average) for Herro/Dipo, with the player who’s hotter getting 30+ and the cooler getting less.

The power rotation will probably just be as it is now: Bam/Tucker for the most with Morris relieving PJ & Dedmon relieving Bam.

[greg4012]

I think we get Dipo back after the ASG, and then get 1-2 buy-out signings.

We’re already a serious contender, but health (like many other teams) is the key thing. When 100% healthy we’re pretty deep & balanced. But 1 or 2 injuries and we go from being a top-2 to losing HCA in the 1st.

Realistically, if we can get "a somewhat like his old self Oladipo" back then that solves the solid backup PG spot too. I know he is more SG/combo guard, but I have to imagine any bargain bin vet min backup PG would provide little to no upgrade over dipo as a part time ballhandler running offense.

Plus, just think of playoff minute distribution should dipo be back in form. 96 minutes split between the 2 guard spots per game. Lowry and Herro already make up 65-70 of those minutes. Duncan/Butler take up some minutes at SG. Dipo gets the remainder of minutes and we don't have space or need for another backup PG once playoff comes around (assuming health).

We should be looking at the 5 players roaring through 3 spots (Lowry/Jimmy/Herro/Duncan/Dipo). That way we’re looking at 144 minutes, with almost half going to Lowry/Jimmy. There’s about 75-80 to spread around & Duncan will take 25 or so, leave about 25 each (on average) for Herro/Dipo, with the player who’s hotter getting 30+ and the cooler getting less.

The power rotation will probably just be as it is now: Bam/Tucker for the most with Morris relieving PJ & Dedmon relieving Bam.

Agreed--in that scenario, the random backup vet PG has no role in the playoffs. Could def be helpful in regular season and as insurance policy against needing to play Vincent. But if we can get a functional dipo back, it loses importance

[harlem_ball]

If Herro continue to average 23-25ppg per game. He should be our full SG starter next year.

We are seeing a glimpse on how he would look as a main guy and starter.

It’s disrespectful that he’s Not a starter now… not his fault the bench is poop…

This narrative is so garbage but fans love to find drama to cling to. Was it disrespectful for Manu Ginoboli to be 6th man for the Spurs on his way to a HOF career and 4x NBA championships? Or did it simply optimize rotations and opportunity for Ginobili to run the show and do what he wanted when he was on the floor?

Closing games and minutes played is what matters. Tyler will be a starter eventually but why do we want to create drama along the way? Does it seem in any form or fashion like the Heat franchise is marginalizing Tyler?

[harlem_ball]

We really need Kieff back and have to find another front court player if Yurtseven is this much of a project.

Yep...this team is a solid backup pg, a solid big (for depth and extra size when needed), and a somewhat like his old self Oladipo away from being a very, very serious contender. If we manage that and get good outside shooting from the guys who should be knocking them down (mainly Lowry, Duncan, Herro, Tucker, Strus etc...) that team is almost unbeatable imo.

I think we get Dipo back after the ASG, and then get 1-2 buy-out signings.

We’re already a serious contender, but health (like many other teams) is the key thing. When 100% healthy we’re pretty deep & balanced. But 1 or 2 injuries and we go from being a top-2 to losing HCA in the 1st.

[SerialChiller]

We really need Kieff back and have to find another front court player if Yurtseven is this much of a project.

Yep...this team is a solid backup pg, a solid big (for depth and extra size when needed), and a somewhat like his old self Oladipo away from being a very, very serious contender. If we manage that and get good outside shooting from the guys who should be knocking them down (mainly Lowry, Duncan, Herro, Tucker, Strus etc...) that team is almost unbeatable imo.

I think we get Dipo back after the ASG, and then get 1-2 buy-out signings.

We’re already a serious contender, but health (like many other teams) is the key thing. When 100% healthy we’re pretty deep & balanced. But 1 or 2 injuries and we go from being a top-2 to losing HCA in the 1st.

Yep health is key...thats why i think we need a little more depth to ease the load on lowry in the regular season and we need a little more size for certain matchups. Dipo definetly solves the issue but want to be able to ease him back in too.

[SerialChiller]

Yep...this team is a solid backup pg, a solid big (for depth and extra size when needed), and a somewhat like his old self Oladipo away from being a very, very serious contender. If we manage that and get good outside shooting from the guys who should be knocking them down (mainly Lowry, Duncan, Herro, Tucker, Strus etc...) that team is almost unbeatable imo.

I think we get Dipo back after the ASG, and then get 1-2 buy-out signings.

We’re already a serious contender, but health (like many other teams) is the key thing. When 100% healthy we’re pretty deep & balanced. But 1 or 2 injuries and we go from being a top-2 to losing HCA in the 1st.

Realistically, if we can get "a somewhat like his old self Oladipo" back then that solves the solid backup PG spot too. I know he is more SG/combo guard, but I have to imagine any bargain bin vet min backup PG would provide little to no upgrade over dipo as a part time ballhandler running offense.

Plus, just think of playoff minute distribution should dipo be back in form. 96 minutes split between the 2 guard spots per game. Lowry and Herro already make up 65-70 of those minutes. Duncan/Butler take up some minutes at SG. Dipo gets the remainder of minutes and we don't have space or need for another backup PG once playoff comes around (assuming health).

Oh ya come playoffs we dont need another pg if healthy just to get there though with health in tact i think.

[Heat_Down_Under]

If Herro continue to average 23-25ppg per game. He should be our full SG starter next year.

We are seeing a glimpse on how he would look as a main guy and starter.

It’s disrespectful that he’s Not a starter now… not his fault the bench is poop…

This narrative is so garbage but fans love to find drama to cling to. Was it disrespectful for Manu Ginoboli to be 6th man for the Spurs on his way to a HOF career and 4x NBA championships? Or did it simply optimize rotations and opportunity for Ginobili to run the show and do what he wanted when he was on the floor?

Closing games and minutes played is what matters. Tyler will be a starter eventually but why do we want to create drama along the way? Does it seem in any form or fashion like the Heat franchise is marginalizing Tyler?

And if we see a headline that Herro signed elsewhere because he wants to be a “starter” what will your arguement be then? Herro is not loyal? Herro was a bum anyway?

It was disrespectful for manu, he could have been a starter elsewhere. It’s his choice though. Wanting to play for Pop and starting off the bench because the team is just entering a “dynasty”. If spurs were a bottom dweller team he could have went elsewhere. The arguement is pointless.

Herro is young and he knows he’s the “man”. You can’t expect everyone to have a “manu” mentality. What’s the ratio of players complaining of not being a starter over ones that are happy to be a bench player “to help the team”??

[HeatFanLifer]

I thought this game was today. Friggin kangaroos with your wild times.

[greg4012]

It’s disrespectful that he’s Not a starter now… not his fault the bench is poop…

This narrative is so garbage but fans love to find drama to cling to. Was it disrespectful for Manu Ginoboli to be 6th man for the Spurs on his way to a HOF career and 4x NBA championships? Or did it simply optimize rotations and opportunity for Ginobili to run the show and do what he wanted when he was on the floor?

Closing games and minutes played is what matters. Tyler will be a starter eventually but why do we want to create drama along the way? Does it seem in any form or fashion like the Heat franchise is marginalizing Tyler?

And if we see a headline that Herro signed elsewhere because he wants to be a “starter” what will your arguement be then? Herro is not loyal? Herro was a bum anyway?

It was disrespectful for manu, he could have been a starter elsewhere. It’s his choice though. Wanting to play for Pop and starting off the bench because the team is just entering a “dynasty”. If spurs were a bottom dweller team he could have went elsewhere. The arguement is pointless.

Herro is young and he knows he’s the “man”. You can’t expect everyone to have a “manu” mentality. What’s the ratio of players complaining of not being a starter over ones that are happy to be a bench player “to help the team”??

You're all over the place. Herro is benefiting as much from the Heat organization as they are from him.

And you clearly don't know how rookie-scale contract extensions work in the NBA. So long as Herro keeps playing great ball, I'm confident that Miami will continue to do right by him. A professional relationship where both parties work together--who would've thunk it?

[Heat_Down_Under]

This narrative is so garbage but fans love to find drama to cling to. Was it disrespectful for Manu Ginoboli to be 6th man for the Spurs on his way to a HOF career and 4x NBA championships? Or did it simply optimize rotations and opportunity for Ginobili to run the show and do what he wanted when he was on the floor?

Closing games and minutes played is what matters. Tyler will be a starter eventually but why do we want to create drama along the way? Does it seem in any form or fashion like the Heat franchise is marginalizing Tyler?

And if we see a headline that Herro signed elsewhere because he wants to be a “starter” what will your arguement be then? Herro is not loyal? Herro was a bum anyway?

It was disrespectful for manu, he could have been a starter elsewhere. It’s his choice though. Wanting to play for Pop and starting off the bench because the team is just entering a “dynasty”. If spurs were a bottom dweller team he could have went elsewhere. The arguement is pointless.

Herro is young and he knows he’s the “man”. You can’t expect everyone to have a “manu” mentality. What’s the ratio of players complaining of not being a starter over ones that are happy to be a bench player “to help the team”??

You're all over the place. Herro is benefiting as much from the Heat organization as they are from him.

And you clearly don't know how rookie-scale contract extensions work in the NBA. So long as Herro keeps playing great ball, I'm confident that Miami will continue to do right by him. A professional relationship where both parties work together--who would've thunk it?

I’m all over the place? Lol! I said it’s disrespectful that Herro isnt a starter, giving him props. Then you brang out manu Ginobli.

Doing right by him is keeping him on the bench? Lol.
He’s 21 he’s already comparing himself with Luca and trae young. They are both starters for their team. You think that doesn’t rub off on him in a bad way “just a little”?

Oh yeah your right, we have have seen that movie before with wade where both parties work together as a professional relationship..

[SerialChiller]

I thought this game was today. Friggin kangaroos with your wild times.

Not gonna lie i literally missed the game because of that!

[SerialChiller]

And if we see a headline that Herro signed elsewhere because he wants to be a “starter” what will your arguement be then? Herro is not loyal? Herro was a bum anyway?

It was disrespectful for manu, he could have been a starter elsewhere. It’s his choice though. Wanting to play for Pop and starting off the bench because the team is just entering a “dynasty”. If spurs were a bottom dweller team he could have went elsewhere. The arguement is pointless.

Herro is young and he knows he’s the “man”. You can’t expect everyone to have a “manu” mentality. What’s the ratio of players complaining of not being a starter over ones that are happy to be a bench player “to help the team”??

You're all over the place. Herro is benefiting as much from the Heat organization as they are from him.

And you clearly don't know how rookie-scale contract extensions work in the NBA. So long as Herro keeps playing great ball, I'm confident that Miami will continue to do right by him. A professional relationship where both parties work together--who would've thunk it?

I’m all over the place? Lol! I said it’s disrespectful that Herro isnt a starter, giving him props. Then you brang out manu Ginobli.

Doing right by him is keeping him on the bench? Lol.
He’s 21 he’s already comparing himself with Luca and trae young. They are both starters for their team. You think that doesn’t rub off on him in a bad way “just a little”?

Oh yeah your right, we have have seen that movie before with wade where both parties work together as a professional relationship..

Herro is definitely more than worthy of being a starter. But i think he seems ok with playing starter type minutes off the bench for the good of the team THIS year after a kinda disappointing last season. Next year i think he needs to be in the starting lineup though. As for Wade that is the biggest gripe i have against the team ever...no way we should of ever had to see him wear a bulls and cavs jersey...yuck. paying Whiteside and Bosh first was a horrible decision and look for the Heat.