Miami Heat Regular Season Thread 21-22 Vol. 2 - Can we get to first place?

[3ammy3uck3ts]

Finney-Smith is 100% a Heat guy but yea that’s not happening

[3ammy3uck3ts]

What’s the absolute most you all would trade for Wood?

Im thinking Duncan, Morris, one of the young guys and a 1st. Try to keep the first out if possible but I honestly don’t think Pat gives a **** lol

[Shewasfly]

Is Christian Wood a solid defender? I don't watch the Rockets ever because they are poo, but if so, I'm sold on a trade for him centered around Duncan.

I don't see the point in including Omer in a trade for him though. People overestimate our front court depth. After Bam its just Dedmond. Yes PJ is a small ball 4, but after that we have nothing. Martin is not a 4, Strus is def not a 4, Silva shouldn't be playing NBA min with any consistency, and Markieff is...paralyzed, or something?

I think we need to keep Yogurt and bring him along slowly, likely after an off season to actually work out a gameplan to integrate him into the offense, which I think is the plan despite our impatience.

[Wiltside]

Lowry, Duncan and an unprotected FRP for Lebby

PG - Butler / Vincent
SG - Strus / Oladipo
SF - James / Herro
PF - Tucker / Martin
C - Adebayo / Dedmon / Yurtseven

You know you want the SS Lebby shambles guys

That would be nuts lol!

Heat Twitter is trading Jimmy for LeBron, that’s a tough one but maybe I’m biased because Jimmy is my favorite player in the league and like 5 years younger.

Jimmy can do his best 2012-13 Wade impression, while we still keep our snipers in Strus/Herro ready to go.

Not sure what the Lakers incentive is though

Not really for this thread, but Lakers should be looking at one last roll of the dice with LeBron and seeing if the Magic and Kings will come along for the ride...

LAKERS:

Out:
Russell Westbrook
Talen Horton-Tucker
Lottery protected 2023 FRP
Future SRP

In:
Gary Harris
Terrence Ross
Marvin Bagley
Robin Lopez

ORLANDO:

Out:
Gary Harris
Terrence Ross
Chuma Okeke
Robin Lopez

In:
Russell Westbrook
Talen Horton-Tucker
Lottery protected 2023 FRP (Lakers)
Future SRP

KINGS:

Out:
Marvin Bagley

In:
Chuma Okeke
Michael Carter-Williams

LAKERS:
PG - Avery Bradley / Kendrick Nunn?
SG - Gary Harris / Malik Monk / Wayne Ellington
SF - Terrence Ross / Stanley Johnson
PF - Lebron James / Carmelo Anthony / Trevor Ariza
C - Anthony Davis / Marvin Bagley / Dwight Howard / Robin Lopez

ORLANDO:

PG - Cole Anthony / Markelle Fultz / Russell Westbrook (buy out)
SG - Jalen Suggs / Talen Horton-Tucker
SF - Franz Wagner / RJ Hampton
PF - Wendell Carter Jr / Jonathan Isaac?
C - Mo Bamba / Mo Wagner

KINGS:

PG - De'Aaron Fox / Davion Mitchell / Michael Carter-Williams
SG - Tyrese Haliburton
SF - Terrence Davis / Mo Harkless
PF - Harrison Barnes / Chimezie Metu / Chuma Okeke
C - Richaun Holmes / Tristan Thompson / Alex Len

[3ammy3uck3ts]

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Is Christian Wood a solid defender? I don't watch the Rockets ever because they are poo, but if so, I'm sold on a trade for him centered around Duncan.

I don't see the point in including Omer in a trade for him though. People overestimate our front court depth. After Bam its just Dedmond. Yes PJ is a small ball 4, but after that we have nothing. Martin is not a 4, Strus is def not a 4, Silva shouldn't be playing NBA min with any consistency, and Markieff is...paralyzed, or something?

I think we need to keep Yogurt and bring him along slowly, likely after an off season to actually work out a gameplan to integrate him into the offense, which I think is the plan despite our impatience.

I’m not sure honestly but I bet he’s a better defender than Duncan Herro and Strus lol. Especially being super long and 6’11 surrounded by elite defenders. He can get deflections and steals in the passing lanes, block some bad shots Bam Jimmy and PJ force them into when they put them in the torture chamber. I’m sold.

[marson]

I'm checking the stats.

We have the best home record in the east with Chicago as 2nd.

Weird that Brooklyn has 11 losses at home but the best in road games at 17-6.

[Wiltside]

Another guy to monitor closer to the deadline is Jonas Valunciunas.

He offers the stretch 5 capability, along with being a good rebounder and finisher.

Something involving Robinson and a pick could get it done.

[MettaWorldPanda]

Watch on YouTube

Wood built like Chris Bosh.

[MettaWorldPanda]

Another guy to monitor closer to the deadline is Jonas Valunciunas.

He offers the stretch 5 capability, along with being a good rebounder and finisher.

Something involving Robinson and a pick could get it done.

Spo not playing Valunciunas with Bam if he’s not playing him with Yurt.

[MettaWorldPanda]

Is Christian Wood a solid defender? I don't watch the Rockets ever because they are poo, but if so, I'm sold on a trade for him centered around Duncan.

I don't see the point in including Omer in a trade for him though. People overestimate our front court depth. After Bam its just Dedmond. Yes PJ is a small ball 4, but after that we have nothing. Martin is not a 4, Strus is def not a 4, Silva shouldn't be playing NBA min with any consistency, and Markieff is...paralyzed, or something?

I think we need to keep Yogurt and bring him along slowly, likely after an off season to actually work out a gameplan to integrate him into the offense, which I think is the plan despite our impatience.

We have to give the Rockets something more of value not just Duncan and his long term deal. If they give up a front court player they are going to want a young promising one back in return. Wood essentially becomes the third center and the goal is to have Markieff give us depth in the front court when he returns or sign added depth in the buyout market.

[Flash4thewin]

Is Christian Wood a solid defender? I don't watch the Rockets ever because they are poo, but if so, I'm sold on a trade for him centered around Duncan.

I don't see the point in including Omer in a trade for him though. People overestimate our front court depth. After Bam its just Dedmond. Yes PJ is a small ball 4, but after that we have nothing. Martin is not a 4, Strus is def not a 4, Silva shouldn't be playing NBA min with any consistency, and Markieff is...paralyzed, or something?

I think we need to keep Yogurt and bring him along slowly, likely after an off season to actually work out a gameplan to integrate him into the offense, which I think is the plan despite our impatience.

We have to give the Rockets something more of value not just Duncan and his long term deal. If they give up a front court player they are going to want a young promising one back in return. Wood essentially becomes the third center and the goal is to have Markieff give us depth in the front court when he returns or sign added depth in the buyout market.

I don't see the Rockets even taking that trade. They are in the rebuilding mode so they have no need or use for Duncan. If Duncan has any value its not to the Rockets. Maybe they trade him to a 3rd team?

[3ammy3uck3ts]

Is Christian Wood a solid defender? I don't watch the Rockets ever because they are poo, but if so, I'm sold on a trade for him centered around Duncan.

I don't see the point in including Omer in a trade for him though. People overestimate our front court depth. After Bam its just Dedmond. Yes PJ is a small ball 4, but after that we have nothing. Martin is not a 4, Strus is def not a 4, Silva shouldn't be playing NBA min with any consistency, and Markieff is...paralyzed, or something?

I think we need to keep Yogurt and bring him along slowly, likely after an off season to actually work out a gameplan to integrate him into the offense, which I think is the plan despite our impatience.

We have to give the Rockets something more of value not just Duncan and his long term deal. If they give up a front court player they are going to want a young promising one back in return. Wood essentially becomes the third center and the goal is to have Markieff give us depth in the front court when he returns or sign added depth in the buyout market.

I don't see the Rockets even taking that trade. They are in the rebuilding mode so they have no need or use for Duncan. If Duncan has any value its not to the Rockets. Maybe they trade him to a 3rd team?

Not bad to have an elite shooter next to your young guys to open the floor for them

[MettaWorldPanda]

We have to give the Rockets something more of value not just Duncan and his long term deal. If they give up a front court player they are going to want a young promising one back in return. Wood essentially becomes the third center and the goal is to have Markieff give us depth in the front court when he returns or sign added depth in the buyout market.

I don't see the Rockets even taking that trade. They are in the rebuilding mode so they have no need or use for Duncan. If Duncan has any value its not to the Rockets. Maybe they trade him to a 3rd team?

Not bad to have an elite shooter next to your young guys to open the floor for them

Exactly and they could always flip Duncan to a contender in need of shooting down the road if need be for a pick.

[MettaWorldPanda]

Is Christian Wood a solid defender? I don't watch the Rockets ever because they are poo, but if so, I'm sold on a trade for him centered around Duncan.

I don't see the point in including Omer in a trade for him though. People overestimate our front court depth. After Bam its just Dedmond. Yes PJ is a small ball 4, but after that we have nothing. Martin is not a 4, Strus is def not a 4, Silva shouldn't be playing NBA min with any consistency, and Markieff is...paralyzed, or something?

I think we need to keep Yogurt and bring him along slowly, likely after an off season to actually work out a gameplan to integrate him into the offense, which I think is the plan despite our impatience.

We have to give the Rockets something more of value not just Duncan and his long term deal. If they give up a front court player they are going to want a young promising one back in return. Wood essentially becomes the third center and the goal is to have Markieff give us depth in the front court when he returns or sign added depth in the buyout market.

I don't see the Rockets even taking that trade. They are in the rebuilding mode so they have no need or use for Duncan. If Duncan has any value its not to the Rockets. Maybe they trade him to a 3rd team?

Yes they are in rebuilding mode this is why getting a young Center in Yurtseven, KZ Okpala who they wanted last year in the Dipo deal and possibly a future protected first should suffice there rebuilding needs while maintaining a trade asset contract in Duncan.

[carnageta]

Unpopular opinion: I don't want CWood.

Kelly Olynyk averaged 19, 9 and 4 on 55/39 shooting splits last season for the Rockets. Those are near all-star numbers, yet he was just a mere average player his entire career before that moment. Playing on a winning team with championship pressure is different than playing on a bottom feeder with zero expectations.

We're a deep team and we have size, especially when Morris returns. Just keep everyone healthy and go to war. If you must make a trade, do it for a known commodity. The Raps trading for Marc Gasol before the deadline in 2019 was a championship move. The Heat trading for Christian 'Hassan Whiteside' Wood before the 2022 deadline? Not so much..

Gimmie Duncan over CWood. Robinson has produced in a championship environment and has the ability, albeit streaky, to single handedly win games due to his shooting capabilities.

There. I said it.

[Wiltside]

Unpopular opinion: I don't want CWood.

Kelly Olynyk averaged 19, 9 and 4 on 55/39 shooting splits last season for the Rockets. Those are near all-star numbers, yet he was just a mere average player his entire career before that moment. Playing on a winning team with championship pressure is different than playing on a bottom feeder with has zero expectations.

We're a deep team and we have size, especially when Morris returns. Just keep everyone healthy and go to war. If you must make a trade, do it for a known commodity. The Raps trading for Marc Gasol before the deadline in 2019 was a championship move. The Heat trading for Christian 'Hassan Whiteside' Wood before the 2022 deadline? Not so much..

Gimmie Duncan over CWood. Robinson has produced in a championship environment and has the ability, albeit streaky, to single handedly win games due to his shooting capabilities.

There. I said it.

This.

I'd rather we looked at Harrison Barnes or Robert Covington over Wood, given how Spo is going to play.

[Shewasfly]

Unpopular opinion: I don't want CWood.

Kelly Olynyk averaged 19, 9 and 4 on 55/39 shooting splits last season for the Rockets. Those are near all-star numbers, yet he was just a mere average player his entire career before that moment. Playing on a winning team with championship pressure is different than playing on a bottom feeder with has zero expectations.

We're a deep team and we have size, especially when Morris returns. Just keep everyone healthy and go to war. If you must make a trade, do it for a known commodity. The Raps trading for Marc Gasol before the deadline in 2019 was a championship move. The Heat trading for Christian 'Hassan Whiteside' Wood before the 2022 deadline? Not so much..

Gimmie Duncan over CWood. Robinson has produced in a championship environment and has the ability, albeit streaky, to single handedly win games due to his shooting capabilities.

There. I said it.

Honestly, I can see this angle as well.

Unless we see Wood as a long term piece to build around along with Bam and Herro, the trade makes us better, but not necessarily enough better considering what we might have to lose (Yogurt) to execute it.

I would still pull the trigger on the trade for Duncan and KZ and a pick though.

[Shewasfly]

Unpopular opinion: I don't want CWood.

Kelly Olynyk averaged 19, 9 and 4 on 55/39 shooting splits last season for the Rockets. Those are near all-star numbers, yet he was just a mere average player his entire career before that moment. Playing on a winning team with championship pressure is different than playing on a bottom feeder with has zero expectations.

We're a deep team and we have size, especially when Morris returns. Just keep everyone healthy and go to war. If you must make a trade, do it for a known commodity. The Raps trading for Marc Gasol before the deadline in 2019 was a championship move. The Heat trading for Christian 'Hassan Whiteside' Wood before the 2022 deadline? Not so much..

Gimmie Duncan over CWood. Robinson has produced in a championship environment and has the ability, albeit streaky, to single handedly win games due to his shooting capabilities.

There. I said it.

This.

I'd rather we looked at Harrison Barnes or Robert Covington over Wood, given how Spo is going to play.

I would LOVE Covington. Our defense would be insane.

[RexBoyWonder]

Unpopular opinion: I don't want CWood.

Kelly Olynyk averaged 19, 9 and 4 on 55/39 shooting splits last season for the Rockets. Those are near all-star numbers, yet he was just a mere average player his entire career before that moment. Playing on a winning team with championship pressure is different than playing on a bottom feeder with has zero expectations.

We're a deep team and we have size, especially when Morris returns. Just keep everyone healthy and go to war. If you must make a trade, do it for a known commodity. The Raps trading for Marc Gasol before the deadline in 2019 was a championship move. The Heat trading for Christian 'Hassan Whiteside' Wood before the 2022 deadline? Not so much..

Gimmie Duncan over CWood. Robinson has produced in a championship environment and has the ability, albeit streaky, to single handedly win games due to his shooting capabilities.

There. I said it.

This.

I'd rather we looked at Harrison Barnes or Robert Covington over Wood, given how Spo is going to play.

Thinking about Spo's system, It's clear he likes to play Bam (or any C) next to a big wing that is more of a perimeter player rather then play another player that is more paint orientated like Bam.

Christian Wood is a sexier name, but he's definitely a C that plays mostly inside, despite being to shoot 3's. He moves slow, he doesn't have any meaningful dribbling or passing skills.

A guy Like Harrison Barnes might not excite many, but he's the type pf PF that can shoot, switch on defense, pass, and has the experience and pedigree that Spo will appreciate.

If I had to bet - We'll target Harrison Barnes way above a Christian Wood.

[3ammy3uck3ts]

Aside from Turner who now has the iffy injury in his foot, HB has been my top priority this deadline. I want him bad