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Re: 2024-25 Regular Season Thread Vol. 2 

Post#341 » by 3ammy3uck3ts » Tue Dec 17, 2024 5:55 pm

I feel like a Kuzma package can land you DFS, I’d prefer that route
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Post#342 » by MettaWorldPanda » Tue Dec 17, 2024 5:57 pm

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Suns fans acting like us past years whenever a hot rumor comes out. They honestly think they have a chance at getting Butler for whatever non sense they have to offer.


Only difference is, they have a FO that isn’t scared to make moves so at least they have some recent acquisition to fuel it, we’re still living off fumes of the big 3 era :lol:

They have lack of desirable assets. Same issue we’ve had for many years. The assets they have in Booker and Durant won’t be dealt for Butler. Beal ain’t it
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Post#343 » by 3ammy3uck3ts » Tue Dec 17, 2024 6:00 pm

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MettaWorldPanda wrote:Suns fans acting like us past years whenever a hot rumor comes out. They honestly think they have a chance at getting Butler for whatever non sense they have to offer.


Only difference is, they have a FO that isn’t scared to make moves so at least they have some recent acquisition to fuel it, we’re still living off fumes of the big 3 era :lol:

They have lack of desirable assets. Same issue we’ve had for many years. The assets they have in Booker and Durant won’t be dealt for Butler. Beal ain’t it


We’ll see, no clue what deals are even being sent our way and Beal fits their usual narrative of trying to stay competitive. Beal and a 1st might be the best we’re being offered. Not advocating for this but we literally just don’t know, I personally am not confident in this front office being able to navigate a Jimmy trade to get us what’s best for us out of the situation.
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Post#344 » by unowen85 » Tue Dec 17, 2024 6:03 pm

In an alternate timeline, Durant/Butler/Booker would be on the Heat and we’d have won at least two championships.
For a long time it gave me nightmares,witnessing an injustice like that.It’s a constant reminder of just how unfair this world can be.I can still hear them taunting him, Silly Rabbit tricks are for kids.I mean why couldn’t they just give him some cereal?
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Post#345 » by MettaWorldPanda » Tue Dec 17, 2024 6:06 pm

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Only difference is, they have a FO that isn’t scared to make moves so at least they have some recent acquisition to fuel it, we’re still living off fumes of the big 3 era :lol:

They have lack of desirable assets. Same issue we’ve had for many years. The assets they have in Booker and Durant won’t be dealt for Butler. Beal ain’t it


We’ll see, no clue what deals are even being sent our way and Beal fits their usual narrative of trying to stay competitive. Beal and a 1st might be the best we’re being offered. Not advocating for this but we literally just don’t know, I personally am not confident in this front office being able to navigate a Jimmy trade to get us what’s best for us out of the situation.

Taking Beals’s 150 million left and NTC just does not seem in the cards. I can see why Suns are pushing this hard. Better off just letting Jimmy walk then crippling yourself with a NTC contract of that magnitude
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Post#346 » by mademan » Tue Dec 17, 2024 6:27 pm

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Only difference is, they have a FO that isn’t scared to make moves so at least they have some recent acquisition to fuel it, we’re still living off fumes of the big 3 era :lol:

They have lack of desirable assets. Same issue we’ve had for many years. The assets they have in Booker and Durant won’t be dealt for Butler. Beal ain’t it


We’ll see, no clue what deals are even being sent our way and Beal fits their usual narrative of trying to stay competitive. Beal and a 1st might be the best we’re being offered. Not advocating for this but we literally just don’t know, I personally am not confident in this front office being able to navigate a Jimmy trade to get us what’s best for us out of the situation.


Suns "assets" that theyre willing to trade probably include a single 1st. You can get a single 1st for Butler without taking probably the most toxic contract in the league.

Beal doesnt help anyone stay competitive. He hasnt been a needle mover in years
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Post#347 » by DayofMourning » Tue Dec 17, 2024 6:35 pm

Im dealing with the Rox or letting Butler opt out. Those r my two options.
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Post#348 » by MettaWorldPanda » Tue Dec 17, 2024 6:43 pm

DayofMourning wrote:Im dealing with the Rox or letting Butler opt out. Those r my two options.

Agreed it’s Rockets or walk. Touche
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Post#349 » by MettaWorldPanda » Tue Dec 17, 2024 6:48 pm

3ammy3uck3ts wrote:I feel like a Kuzma package can land you DFS, I’d prefer that route

It doesn’t line up financially with DFS at 14 and Kuzma 23. Rozier and Jovic get you Collins or Kuzma possibky. Collins comes with player opt or you get Kuzma’s Descending contract. You know my preference by far is Collins.
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Post#350 » by 3ammy3uck3ts » Tue Dec 17, 2024 6:53 pm

mademan wrote:
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MettaWorldPanda wrote:They have lack of desirable assets. Same issue we’ve had for many years. The assets they have in Booker and Durant won’t be dealt for Butler. Beal ain’t it


We’ll see, no clue what deals are even being sent our way and Beal fits their usual narrative of trying to stay competitive. Beal and a 1st might be the best we’re being offered. Not advocating for this but we literally just don’t know, I personally am not confident in this front office being able to navigate a Jimmy trade to get us what’s best for us out of the situation.


Suns "assets" that theyre willing to trade probably include a single 1st. You can get a single 1st for Butler without taking probably the most toxic contract in the league.

Beal doesnt help anyone stay competitive. He hasnt been a needle mover in years


We’ll see, we just have no idea. Thus far the rockets are apparently not interested despite looking like they could use him badly vs the Thunder the other night to put them over the top.

Like I said I’m not advocating for it but Beal is likely the best player we’d be offered and if it comes with a 1st I wouldn’t put it past Pat to try it out. I would prefer a Warriors or Rockets deal obviously, my main preference would be to keep him and add the final piece to this core this summer but that doesn’t seem to be in the cards for this FO.
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Post#351 » by mademan » Tue Dec 17, 2024 7:00 pm

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mademan wrote:
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We’ll see, no clue what deals are even being sent our way and Beal fits their usual narrative of trying to stay competitive. Beal and a 1st might be the best we’re being offered. Not advocating for this but we literally just don’t know, I personally am not confident in this front office being able to navigate a Jimmy trade to get us what’s best for us out of the situation.


Suns "assets" that theyre willing to trade probably include a single 1st. You can get a single 1st for Butler without taking probably the most toxic contract in the league.

Beal doesnt help anyone stay competitive. He hasnt been a needle mover in years


We’ll see, we just have no idea. Thus far the rockets are apparently not interested despite looking like they could use him badly vs the Thunder the other night to put them over the top.

Like I said I’m not advocating for it but Beal is likely the best player we’d be offered and if it comes with a 1st I wouldn’t put it past Pat to try it out. I would prefer a Warriors or Rockets deal obviously, my main preference would be to keep him and add the final piece to this core this summer but that doesn’t seem to be in the cards for this FO.


You think there's a world where the Lakers dont offer Dlo/Rui/Vincent/1st for Butler? They take that and run and its a far superior offer to the PHX one.
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Post#352 » by 3ammy3uck3ts » Tue Dec 17, 2024 7:00 pm

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Suns fans trying their hardest, they’re going to push Matt Ishba to go on the full court press for Jimmy to appease the fans.

Suns fans get Twix his guy
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Post#354 » by 3ammy3uck3ts » Tue Dec 17, 2024 7:04 pm

mademan wrote:
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Suns "assets" that theyre willing to trade probably include a single 1st. You can get a single 1st for Butler without taking probably the most toxic contract in the league.

Beal doesnt help anyone stay competitive. He hasnt been a needle mover in years


We’ll see, we just have no idea. Thus far the rockets are apparently not interested despite looking like they could use him badly vs the Thunder the other night to put them over the top.

Like I said I’m not advocating for it but Beal is likely the best player we’d be offered and if it comes with a 1st I wouldn’t put it past Pat to try it out. I would prefer a Warriors or Rockets deal obviously, my main preference would be to keep him and add the final piece to this core this summer but that doesn’t seem to be in the cards for this FO.


You think there's a world where the Lakers dont offer Dlo/Rui/Vincent/1st for Butler? They take that and run and its a far superior offer to the PHX one.


Maybe, we have no idea :lol:

Does Jimmy want to go to LA? It hasn’t been reported but we know 4 places he would like to be
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Post#355 » by 3ammy3uck3ts » Tue Dec 17, 2024 7:07 pm

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Post#356 » by mademan » Tue Dec 17, 2024 7:07 pm

3ammy3uck3ts wrote:
mademan wrote:
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We’ll see, we just have no idea. Thus far the rockets are apparently not interested despite looking like they could use him badly vs the Thunder the other night to put them over the top.

Like I said I’m not advocating for it but Beal is likely the best player we’d be offered and if it comes with a 1st I wouldn’t put it past Pat to try it out. I would prefer a Warriors or Rockets deal obviously, my main preference would be to keep him and add the final piece to this core this summer but that doesn’t seem to be in the cards for this FO.


You think there's a world where the Lakers dont offer Dlo/Rui/Vincent/1st for Butler? They take that and run and its a far superior offer to the PHX one.


Maybe, we have no idea :lol:

Does Jimmy want to go to LA? It hasn’t been reported but we know 4 places he would like to be


You think Pat would eat 2 extra years of Beal at 50mill/year and do away with max cap space in 2027 just to placate Jimmy?

Has Pat really gotten this soft?
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Post#357 » by MettaWorldPanda » Tue Dec 17, 2024 7:08 pm

Trade with the Rockets and keep things simple. If we want to stay competitive then try to work out with the Rockets them keeping the bulk of there assets and giving up Brooks and Van Vleet. That gives us a legit starting PG with a player opt out and potentially much cheaper to resign then Jimmy. A starting SF in Brooks. Give us a 1st in 2027 to block out a potential playoff miss and giving Charlotte 2028 unprotected. Throw in a young player like Eason and we move. We will flip them Butler who replaces Brooks and Rozier who fills in for Van Vleet.
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Post#358 » by 3ammy3uck3ts » Tue Dec 17, 2024 7:11 pm

It’s unfortunate for Phoenix they can’t aggregate contracts because they could bolster their offer with Ryan Dunn who looks to have elite 3 and D potential on the wing then asset wise you could at least throw out a 1st 3 2nds and Dunn
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Post#359 » by mademan » Tue Dec 17, 2024 7:11 pm

MettaWorldPanda wrote:Trade with the Rockets and keep things simple. If we want to stay competitive then try to work out with the Rockets them keeping the bulk of there assets and giving up Brooks and Van Vleet. That gives us a legit starting PG with a player opt out and potentially much cheaper to resign then Jimmy. A starting SF in Brooks. Give us a 1st in 2027 to block out a potential playoff miss and giving Charlotte 2028 unprotected. Throw in a young player like Eason and we move. We will flip them Butler who replaces Brooks and Rozier who fills in for Van Vleet.


eason is awesome..i dont see Houston budging on trading much/any young talent.

Their package is probably Brooks+ vet contract filler+ 1 decent 1st or 2 meh 1sts, and they'll say theyre ok not making a move and if you can find better, take it.
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Post#360 » by 3ammy3uck3ts » Tue Dec 17, 2024 7:12 pm

mademan wrote:
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You think there's a world where the Lakers dont offer Dlo/Rui/Vincent/1st for Butler? They take that and run and its a far superior offer to the PHX one.


Maybe, we have no idea :lol:

Does Jimmy want to go to LA? It hasn’t been reported but we know 4 places he would like to be


You think Pat would eat 2 extra years of Beal at 50mill/year and do away with max cap space in 2027 just to placate Jimmy?

Has Pat really gotten this soft?


Pat is washed, I’m not confident in his ability to navigate this trade IF it even comes to that
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