Miami Heat 2016 Offseason Thread; "It will be fun in July"- July-er(Part XIII)

[Tim_Hardawayy]

Listening to Skolnick's show, he doesn't expect Bosh to play.

Does he have any thoughts on Bosh's reaction to it? He think Bosh will try to come back with another team?

[gom]

I think Williams will be the surprise on this team. He looks like he would excel in the Heat system.
If Winslow hits sophomore slump especially with his subpar shooting, Williams could be starting by mid Jan.

Maybe I'm' deluding myself but I'm seeing a guy that is very athletic but not in great shape. If he gets in Heat shape and works on his 3's every day this summer, he just might be a nice surprise. He's got the tools, he needs to put it together and I think playing fast will help him also

I wish I were this optimistic. But I'd be satisfied with less actually. I just want him to be a better option than Josh McRoberts.

[orphicwhip]

Listening to Skolnick's show, he doesn't expect Bosh to play.

Does he have any thoughts on Bosh's reaction to it? He think Bosh will try to come back with another team?

He didn't expound, unfortunately.

[RexBoyWonder]

Listening to Skolnick's show, he doesn't expect Bosh to play.

More info on whats being said?

[UD4MVP]

I expect Ethan to rip the team on how they handle Bosh because Henry Thomas is gonna feed him his BS lol

[smartcane]

If we're talking playmaking, Weber is a better PG than Tyler even now. His shooting needs to improve.

Personally, I think a lineup of Dragic-TJ-Richardson-Winslow-Whiteside is very intriguing.

I would be surprised if that isn't the line up.

That is actually the worse line up with this current time and would be very surprise and disappointed in Spo if he does that. Winslow should not be starting at PF. His career is going to be at 2 or 3. He can play it occasionally but shouldn't start. Without Bosh, Derrick Williams or James Johnson or even Babbitt are better starts at PF cause each has shown the ability to shoot 3s. Williams and Johnson shoot in 40s from the corner. After that he can put start Richardson and Winslow which keeps length on defense while he can bring TJ off the bench as PG/ SG.

[wadeskywalker]

I expect Ethan to rip the team on how they handle Bosh because Henry Thomas is gonna feed him his BS lol

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[Slot Machine]

It'll be cool to see this team actually have the ability to hit three-pointers next season.

[gom]

Its hard to fathom right now, but in 2-3 years people will adjust and realize 20 million is the new norm for role player and average starter type money. 30 million + is going to be the new max contract, look at what Conley got.

According to the latest calculations after next season the new cap will plateau at $102 million. That's almost 10 million less than many executives predicted just a couple of months ago.

The market clearly went crazy this offseason and many teams overspent with the rising cap in mind. But with a significantly lower cap, some of these (if not many) contracts signed will look absolutely horrible. I like Conley, but I don't want to pay him almost a third of my cap in 3 years when he'll be 32. Or Mozgov who'll be getting nearly 20% of the entire cap in his 4th year.

I really like TJ, but I definitely have my doubts about paying him almost $20 million in the last 2 years of his contract.

There will undoubtedly be a lot of buyer's remorse next summer. Let's hope TJ will be able to avoid it.

That's certainly what they'd like the players to think, but it doesn't take into account the necessary change to the amount of BRI that must be returned to the players. Currently their percentage is 44.74%. It should be closer to 50%, if not indeed 50% because - let's face it - the product is the players on the floor. An increase to 50% garners another 11.2% increase to the salary cap. This is not counting the owners' tendency to understate expected earnings almost every year (which is for example how the cap went from 86M to 94M this last year) and new rights sold to logos on jerseys etc etc etc. It's all a dance. They're already negotiating the next CBA so take everything with a grain of salt about future projections until the lockout.

[SCHeat]

Its hard to fathom right now, but in 2-3 years people will adjust and realize 20 million is the new norm for role player and average starter type money. 30 million + is going to be the new max contract, look at what Conley got.

According to the latest calculations after next season the new cap will plateau at $102 million. That's almost 10 million less than many executives predicted just a couple of months ago.

The market clearly went crazy this offseason and many teams overspent with the rising cap in mind. But with a significantly lower cap, some of these (if not many) contracts signed will look absolutely horrible. I like Conley, but I don't want to pay him almost a third of my cap in 3 years when he'll be 32. Or Mozgov who'll be getting nearly 20% of the entire cap in his 4th year.

I really like TJ, but I definitely have my doubts about paying him almost $20 million in the last 2 years of his contract.

There will undoubtedly be a lot of buyer's remorse next summer. Let's hope TJ will be able to avoid it.

That's certainly what they'd like the players to think, but it doesn't take into account the necessary change to the amount of BRI that must be returned to the players. Currently their percentage is 44.74%. It should be closer to 50%, if not indeed 50% because - let's face it - the product is the players on the floor. An increase to 50% garners another 11.2% increase to the salary cap. This is not counting the owners' tendency to understate expected earnings almost every year (which is for example how the cap went from 86M to 94M this last year) and new rights sold to logos on jerseys etc etc etc. It's all a dance. They're already negotiating the next CBA so take everything with a grain of salt about future projections until the lockout.

Yep. Gonna be a wild ride next offseason. I'm glad Whiteside, Winslow, and Richardson are locked up on good deals at the moment at least.

[ZoStrong]

Spoiler:

he is 6'4 and so was wade, if he gains some weight he will be fine.

Not to be a downer but Wade was measured at 6'4" without shoes with a 6'11" wing span weighing 215 or so pounds. TJ is 6'2" without shoes with a 6'6" wingspan and 180 pounds. The eye test confirms this.

Clearly. Wing span difference is pretty staggering damn Wade

Why, Tyler, why must you be cursed with a short penis!!!

[leoshes]

Q: Will Justise Winslow ever be able to shoot straight? -- Rick.

A: Yes, as long as he keeps hoisting up shots like he did during Thursday's 3-of-17 performance in Thursday's summer-league loss to the Pistons. What he needs, now that he will be counted on for more than hustle and defense, are even more games like this, when he learns what's a good shot, what's not, and then goes to school on the ensuing video. That is why a few more summer-league games wouldn't hurt, and that's why it would be nice to have a Heat coach on hand when Winslow works with the U.S. Select Team during Olympic preparations later this month in Las Vegas. To work out the kinks, you first have to work through them. So shoot, Justise. Shoot a lot. And learn. That's what the offseason is for. That's what it has to be for.

Totally agree with Ira.

Justise needs to simply shoot, and be patience. So should we. It takes time but it will improve.

USA select team should be a very good experience for him though, thank god for Coach K and duke lol

It should also be a good opportunity to make friends, & start the early recruiting.

[Seabass777]

[tweet]https://twitter.com/dakelsmb/status/752316321795153920[/tweet]

If there's even an ounce of truth to this that would be way too much to give up for Westbrook.

[Prince Ali]

[tweet]https://twitter.com/dakelsmb/status/752316321795153920[/tweet]

If there's even an ounce of truth to this that would be way too much to give up for Westbrook.

Cant trade consecutive first rounders

[Heat_Fan_87]

[tweet]https://twitter.com/dakelsmb/status/752316321795153920[/tweet]

If there's even an ounce of truth to this that would be way too much to give up for Westbrook.

Cant trade consecutive first rounders

richardson for westbrook str8 up is more than fair

[eddieheatfan]

Listening to Skolnick's show, he doesn't expect Bosh to play.

i'm expecting as much.

[Seabass777]

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[PizzaLord305]

[tweet]https://twitter.com/dakelsmb/status/752316321795153920[/tweet]

If there's even an ounce of truth to this that would be way too much to give up for Westbrook.

Cant trade consecutive first rounders

I'm in the extreme minority, but I don't think I'd take that trade or Westbrook in general. super talented and fun to watch, but having him on your team means the organization has to sacrifice so much in order to accommodate his playing style. I would do that for Lebron or KD, but not Westbrook man. I think he's a bit overrated.

[DayofMourning]

[tweet]https://twitter.com/dakelsmb/status/752316321795153920[/tweet]

If there's even an ounce of truth to this that would be way too much to give up for Westbrook.

That's a very poorly written article. "Force Bosh to retire". First off, there's no "forcing". Second, they said Bosh's salary would have to be removed in order to fit Westbrook into the team's cap, yet they're dealing away $20 million in order to acquire RW.....huh? Thirdly, how are we trading away our 2017 first rounder again? The author of this article should have axed somebody before he posted it.

[goodboy]

Id pick Westbrook over Durant x100 over.