2/25 7pm EST: Heat at Hornets

[marson]

We peaked last year. BLOW IT UP.

[Lilseb93]

Bam is not the #1 guy who carries you to a championship, but he's the center piece that recruits the other guys here, defends, and makes consistent dunks/jumpers. Get this guy a legitimate PG and you'll see an even better Bam.

[Vertical Limit]

We peaked last year. BLOW IT UP.

I said it the day after we got eliminated, if we dont make some massive changes, we will get exposed.. Butler cant do it all, especially as he gets older. PJ tucker cant be the second best player on your team in the eastern conference finals..

[fishfuego.]

Bam is not the #1 guy who carries you to a championship, but he's the center piece that recruits the other guys here, defends, and makes consistent dunks/jumpers. Get this guy a legitimate PG and you'll see an even better Bam.

True, however good luck with this FO and ownership getting that PG or pieces in general.

[3ammy3uck3ts]

Bam is not the #1 guy who carries you to a championship, but he's the center piece that recruits the other guys here, defends, and makes consistent dunks/jumpers. Get this guy a legitimate PG and you'll see an even better Bam.

Bam next to Trae might average 26-28 off the bat to be honest lol

[Shewasfly]

He looked like an actual mental midget in there. I expect way better from what’s supposed to be our franchise centerpiece

I wish y’all would stop saying this. I am terrified for our future if they genuinely believe Bam can be the centerpiece for a championship team.

Not the main piece for sure, but 3rd piece on a championship team. Bam as the main piece needs many main pieces with him to compliment his game.

If Bam moves to the 4 I am okay saying this. As a 5, I think we are all seeing the limitations. He forces you to be small. But if you move him to 4 he’s a huge detriment to spacing. I’m starting to come over to the camp that says he needs to develop a 3 point shot. Right now he’s too much of a tweener. Doesn’t give you enough of either type of player, inside or outside.

[oreon]

I don't mind Bam having a bad game. He's had a good season. He's the foundational piece. The problem is everyone else. Outside Superman Jimmy in the playoffs, I wouldn't miss anyone. We can talk about lack of size and everything, but the biggest problem is the offense. We don't have ANY shooters. If we had even AVERAGE shooters, we'd have a much better record. This is what happens when you fall in love with undrafted players. These guys hit their ceilings. They don't have a lot of NBA talent.

Butler is a problem too. He's paid like an ALL NBA top 10 player but doesn't produce like one in the regular season. A lot of the high paid players are not playing up to their contract (Butler, Lowry, Duncan, Herro when it kicks in). Last year wasn't an issue because everyone contributed and we were shooting well. A season like this, where all role players are not performing, you need your stars especially your highest paid to one to play like an allstar. He hasn't this season, Bam is the only who has. With the amount of money he's paid I don't know if he's worth it. And then there is his age and injuries.


If this season continues to go sour, FO has to consider moving him. Trade him for multiple picks and preserve cap space and go hard after Mitchell. The cavs are a great story but I don' think they will make it past 1st round in the next couple seasons.

The roster balance isn't great but also from our stars we need consistency. We need **** on Struss, Gabe but they're minimum players. They are giving you what you expect. We need Butler first to be available and play at a high level in the regular season. And also need Herro to be consistent and efficient. If we can't count on that, then they need to be traded.
There's more urgency in my opinion on Butler than Herro because of that contract. At some point its going to be an albatross contract, I'd rather move it before it gets there

[al bondiga]

bruh what is wrong with Bam this game? so many crappy possessions and careless turnovers. is he drunk tonight? my god we are really missing Lowry

He looked like an actual mental midget in there. I expect way better from what’s supposed to be our franchise centerpiece

I wish y’all would stop saying this. I am terrified for our future if they genuinely believe Bam can be the centerpiece for a championship team.

Give bam time! he has to adjust To the screw of mental Games People like spo played on him (bam Cant play every position¡!)

He has to learn to ADJUST...but not all the time

[insfo]

Tyler was great tonight - 33/7/5/1/1 with 6 3s! Wish we got something from either Struss or Duncan and we might have made a game of this. Oh well, on to the next.

GL to whomever has the guts to OP that one!

[oreon]

Bam is not the #1 guy who carries you to a championship, but he's the center piece that recruits the other guys here, defends, and makes consistent dunks/jumpers. Get this guy a legitimate PG and you'll see an even better Bam.

Bam next to Trae might average 26-28 off the bat to be honest lol

We'd be a great regular season team but never win a championship. He's an inefficient version of Dame and probably the biggest defensive liability in the league. In the playoffs where its matchup heavy, he would get picked on constantly. Trae isn't the answer.

[HeatFanLifer]

Wait wait wait… we lost? I didn’t watch the game, but I assumed this was a win. Hornets have the 4th worst record in the league. Wow we lost this game. Yo Spo has to go. I would fire him now. He’s done.

[ShulaDon92]

I wish y’all would stop saying this. I am terrified for our future if they genuinely believe Bam can be the centerpiece for a championship team.

Not the main piece for sure, but 3rd piece on a championship team. Bam as the main piece needs many main pieces with him to compliment his game.

If Bam moves to the 4 I am okay saying this. As a 5, I think we are all seeing the limitations. He forces you to be small. But if you move him to 4 he’s a huge detriment to spacing. I’m starting to come over to the camp that says he needs to develop a 3 point shot. Right now he’s too much of a tweener. Doesn’t give you enough of either type of player, inside or outside.

Bam at the four spot would work if this were the 1990s but Dirk changed the game. We would have to change our system big time and it may not be for the better.

4s bomb threes now.

[insfo]

Wait wait wait… we lost? I didn’t watch the game, but I assumed this was a win. Hornets have the 4th worst record in the league. Wow we lost this game. Yo Spo has to go. I would fire him now. He’s done.

You didn't watch the game ... and you assumed this was a win??

[HeatFanLifer]

Wait wait wait… we lost? I didn’t watch the game, but I assumed this was a win. Hornets have the 4th worst record in the league. Wow we lost this game. Yo Spo has to go. I would fire him now. He’s done.

You didn't watch the game ... and you assumed this was a win??

insfo pls

[insfo]

Wait wait wait… we lost? I didn’t watch the game, but I assumed this was a win. Hornets have the 4th worst record in the league. Wow we lost this game. Yo Spo has to go. I would fire him now. He’s done.

You didn't watch the game ... and you assumed this was a win??

insfo pls

The Heat & I needed you buddy .. and you went absconding

[Flash4thewin]

I don't mind Bam having a bad game. He's had a good season. He's the foundational piece. The problem is everyone else. Outside Superman Jimmy in the playoffs, I wouldn't miss anyone. We can talk about lack of size and everything, but the biggest problem is the offense. We don't have ANY shooters. If we had even AVERAGE shooters, we'd have a much better record. This is what happens when you fall in love with undrafted players. These guys hit their ceilings. They don't have a lot of NBA talent.

Butler is a problem too. He's paid like an ALL NBA top 10 player but doesn't produce like one in the regular season. A lot of the high paid players are not playing up to their contract (Butler, Lowry, Duncan, Herro when it kicks in). Last year wasn't an issue because everyone contributed and we were shooting well. A season like this, where all role players are not performing, you need your stars especially your highest paid to one to play like an allstar. He hasn't this season, Bam is the only who has. With the amount of money he's paid I don't know if he's worth it. And then there is his age and injuries.


If this season continues to go sour, FO has to consider moving him. Trade him for multiple picks and preserve cap space and go hard after Mitchell. The cavs are a great story but I don' think they will make it past 1st round in the next couple seasons.

The roster balance isn't great but also from our stars we need consistency. We need **** on Struss, Gabe but they're minimum players. They are giving you what you expect. We need Butler first to be available and play at a high level in the regular season. And also need Herro to be consistent and efficient. If we can't count on that, then they need to be traded.
There's more urgency in my opinion on Butler than Herro because of that contract. At some point its going to be an albatross contract, I'd rather move it before it gets there

What real trade value does he even have? What team will give up prime asserts for a player who actively shows no passion in the regular season? It’s comical in a way, they way Butler burned bridges as a Wolf calling out player for not playing with pride or passion in the regular seasons, only to see this version for Butler today. Honestly we would be trading a player who is older, Injudy prone and who has been traded 4 time, this would be his fifth time. What real value can we get for him? Oh and he doesn’t have a 3pt shot.

[ShulaDon92]

Tyler was great tonight - 33/7/5/1/1 with 6 3s! Wish we got something from either Struss or Duncan and we might have made a game of this. Oh well, on to the next.

GL to whomever has the guts to OP that one!

Tyler started really slow but got better. He needs to play like that second half more consistently.

The Bam / Tyler duo hit their metrics for the first time together.

[Lilseb93]

I don't mind Bam having a bad game. He's had a good season. He's the foundational piece. The problem is everyone else. Outside Superman Jimmy in the playoffs, I wouldn't miss anyone. We can talk about lack of size and everything, but the biggest problem is the offense. We don't have ANY shooters. If we had even AVERAGE shooters, we'd have a much better record. This is what happens when you fall in love with undrafted players. These guys hit their ceilings. They don't have a lot of NBA talent.

Butler is a problem too. He's paid like an ALL NBA top 10 player but doesn't produce like one in the regular season. A lot of the high paid players are not playing up to their contract (Butler, Lowry, Duncan, Herro when it kicks in). Last year wasn't an issue because everyone contributed and we were shooting well. A season like this, where all role players are not performing, you need your stars especially your highest paid to one to play like an allstar. He hasn't this season, Bam is the only who has. With the amount of money he's paid I don't know if he's worth it. And then there is his age and injuries.


If this season continues to go sour, FO has to consider moving him. Trade him for multiple picks and preserve cap space and go hard after Mitchell. The cavs are a great story but I don' think they will make it past 1st round in the next couple seasons.

The roster balance isn't great but also from our stars we need consistency. We need **** on Struss, Gabe but they're minimum players. They are giving you what you expect. We need Butler first to be available and play at a high level in the regular season. And also need Herro to be consistent and efficient. If we can't count on that, then they need to be traded.
There's more urgency in my opinion on Butler than Herro because of that contract. At some point its going to be an albatross contract, I'd rather move it before it gets there

Jimmy at least shows up in the playoffs (well besides when we got swept against the Bucks). But yah, I agree. The thing is Jimmy is old and has a lot of miles on his body. His type of game doesn't age well. His whole game is getting hit and getting foul shots. He's a guy who can't last a whole regular season and has to be kept healthy for the playoffs. We could get away with that in the past because the team had a good bench and shooting, but like you said, without that aspect, the stars need to step up and they've also been consistently lousy.

Most of the cap space goes to guys who don't play well or are consistently injured which keeps us from being able to have more NBA talent because all we can afford is undrafted guys around them.

[HeatFanLifer]

You didn't watch the game ... and you assumed this was a win??

insfo pls

The Heat & I needed you buddy .. and you went absconding

I drank copious amounts of wine. I didn’t think my team needed me against the 4TH WORST TEAM IN THE LEAGUE. OP this ain’t your fault bro. Don’t let this define you.

[insfo]

I guess I can take credit for getting Love on track! Got him to score his first points, 2pt fg, 3pt fg, block .. all under my watch