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2023 NBA Finals, The Last Stand: Heat @ Nuggets, 6/12 @ 8:30pm

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Re: 2023 NBA Finals, The Last Stand: Heat @ Nuggets, 6/12 @ 8:30pm 

Post#361 » by 3ammy3uck3ts » Mon Jun 12, 2023 11:02 pm

Best players in this series:

1. Jokic
2. Jimmy
3. Bam
4. Murray
5. Gordon
6. MPJ
7-9. Brown/KCP/Martin

We’re severely outclassed and have also been out coached. For this series the Nuggets have had the 2 best players. Recipe for disaster.
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Post#362 » by insfo » Mon Jun 12, 2023 11:03 pm

unowen85 wrote:Keys to the game:

Minimize turnovers.
No goofy plays.
Finish strong at the rim.


You forgot the most important one!

Spam 'em Brez!!

Atleast 40 3s attempted. If we are going out tonight, it needs to be with guns blazing .. I'm looking at you Duncan!
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Post#363 » by Shewasfly » Mon Jun 12, 2023 11:03 pm

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Well, remember Bam has one of the biggest fandom clubs in this board. And i actually think he is having a good series taking into account his offensive shortcomings. On the other hand his defense will be important to the team success IF we get another proven scorer otherwise we are not winning S hit. Bam as a second scorer will not get it done.

Bam is having an amazing Defensive playoff run, but a terrible offensive one. Which settles him in the middle for blame, where we can say he is doing enough, however Jimmy is doing bad on both ends. Bam was asked to be more aggressive because Jimmy is coming up short in scoring and is failing massively by being a turnover machine and having his most inefficient scoring output ever. We all know what Bam's limitations are, I don't know why people keep pushing him to be something he isn't. I don't think he Bam is not gonna get some burn from the fandom, I just think they understand why its happening. What Jimmy has been struggling with this series is unexplainable unless he is truly hurt in a way were not even aware off apart from his ankle.


Agree, by this time after all the years we should have a clear picture of Bam as a player, he will not magically be a good low post scorer ( which will be very good to get the other team in fould trouble ) his handles are very shaky as well ( another reason why i get confused when posters want him to be agreesive driving to the rim ) this is the main catalystic for a bunch of turnovers. Bam is who he is and will play an important part if we win another chip, but we need another proven scorer to get us to the finish line, we can not rely on bench players to play as starters for a full championship run, it will not happen. The margin of error for the Heat is very small due to the fact Denver can get very easy points by Jokic or his passing to other cutting or open players, all their offensive scheme comes from having a big with such talents. The notion that this team doesnt need size especially on defense is an absurd concept to me, they bring out the GSW ( without stating they had generational shooting talent, not only in Steph but also Clay ) It will always be easier to score 4 feet away from the basket than a contested 3 point shot, we simply do not have offensive advantage Denver has scoring down low.

On the note in bold, I wonder if Spo will at all consider the option of going with another one of our bigs (Love and Zeller the only options unfortunately) on Jokic. I called for this before the series started.

Put Bam on Gordon and let him roam to help defensively. Similar to what LA tried with AD. This allows Bam to better get in the passing lanes, cut cutters off, blow up plays, etc). Put Love, who actually has more mass, on Jokic. If he scores he scores and its not like he's not doing that now anyway. But Jokic as a passer is much scarier than him as a scorer. We need to find a way to choke THAT off, and disrupt THAT. Bam on Gordon would also help with crashing the glass and stopping offensive boards too.

Anyway, unlikely to have that much of a gameplan change, but who knows. If they can randomly decide to throw Herro to the wolves tonight, I'm holding out hope they'll look at other changes too.
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Post#364 » by Hallstar » Mon Jun 12, 2023 11:07 pm

Bourne85 wrote:I didn’t think we had much of a chance tonight, but now adding Herro back in all but shuts the door on this season. It’s no secret we have played much better without Herro trying to be the hero. It’s made way for the better shooter Drob. The only chance we have is if Spo finally wakes up, benches and DNPs Strus, starts Duncan, lets Herro and Highsmith come in for spot minutes. Either way imo the Nuggets are getting crowned tonight. Been one hell of a ride this season and I’m more interested in what Riley does this offseason. If we somehow can trade for Dame while keeping Jimmy and Bam and Drob then we have a fighters chance again, but not if this iteration of “Himmy” is the guy that shows up next year. We need the Jimmy that played vs the Bucs. If he’s gone for good then imo we should just move on already.

Arguing which 10 ppg player gets them to 90pts is irrelevant. No they didn't play better without Herro, they finally started making shots they are supposed to because that's all they can do and Jimmy woke up.. Now those shots aren't dropping and you have a 2pt starting back court. Herro though....
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Post#365 » by eddieheatfan » Mon Jun 12, 2023 11:08 pm

i just want the heat to win but if that's not possible i dont want to see a blowout loss. that will hurt even more
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Post#366 » by 3ammy3uck3ts » Mon Jun 12, 2023 11:08 pm

Kevin “more mass” Love: 6’8 250 6’11 wingspan

Bam: 6’9 255 7’1 wingspan
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Post#367 » by 3ammy3uck3ts » Mon Jun 12, 2023 11:09 pm

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Bourne85 wrote:I didn’t think we had much of a chance tonight, but now adding Herro back in all but shuts the door on this season. It’s no secret we have played much better without Herro trying to be the hero. It’s made way for the better shooter Drob. The only chance we have is if Spo finally wakes up, benches and DNPs Strus, starts Duncan, lets Herro and Highsmith come in for spot minutes. Either way imo the Nuggets are getting crowned tonight. Been one hell of a ride this season and I’m more interested in what Riley does this offseason. If we somehow can trade for Dame while keeping Jimmy and Bam and Drob then we have a fighters chance again, but not if this iteration of “Himmy” is the guy that shows up next year. We need the Jimmy that played vs the Bucs. If he’s gone for good then imo we should just move on already.

Arguing which 10 ppg player gets them to 90pts is irrelevant. No they didn't play better without Herro, they finally started making shots they are supposed to because that's all they can do and Jimmy woke up.. Now those shots aren't dropping and you have a 2pt starting back court. Herro though....


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Post#368 » by eddieheatfan » Mon Jun 12, 2023 11:11 pm

3ammy3uck3ts wrote:Kevin “more mass” Love: 6’8 250 6’11 wingspan

Bam: 6’9 255 7’1 wingspan
and yet he has trouble finishing at the rim. or defend properly taller players, something doesnt compute here
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Post#369 » by eddieheatfan » Mon Jun 12, 2023 11:12 pm

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Post#370 » by Bishop45 » Mon Jun 12, 2023 11:16 pm

Compete.
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Post#371 » by 3ammy3uck3ts » Mon Jun 12, 2023 11:17 pm

eddieheatfan wrote:
3ammy3uck3ts wrote:Kevin “more mass” Love: 6’8 250 6’11 wingspan

Bam: 6’9 255 7’1 wingspan
and yet he has trouble finishing at the rim. or defend properly taller players, something doesnt compute here


You sure about that or are you making a knee jerk reaction? He was top 3 in the league in points in the paint, 1-3 I don’t remember exactly where he finished and we’ve seen him do about as good of a job as anyone on Jokic and clamped Embiid in the playoffs last year. He’s shot over 68% in the restricted area every season as a starter.

Edit: forgot to mention he clamped Giannis so bad in the 4th quarters of games 4 and 5 this season the he didn’t even want to touch the ball anymore :lol:

Something definitely does not compute
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Post#372 » by Hallstar » Mon Jun 12, 2023 11:20 pm

3ammy3uck3ts wrote:
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Bourne85 wrote:I didn’t think we had much of a chance tonight, but now adding Herro back in all but shuts the door on this season. It’s no secret we have played much better without Herro trying to be the hero. It’s made way for the better shooter Drob. The only chance we have is if Spo finally wakes up, benches and DNPs Strus, starts Duncan, lets Herro and Highsmith come in for spot minutes. Either way imo the Nuggets are getting crowned tonight. Been one hell of a ride this season and I’m more interested in what Riley does this offseason. If we somehow can trade for Dame while keeping Jimmy and Bam and Drob then we have a fighters chance again, but not if this iteration of “Himmy” is the guy that shows up next year. We need the Jimmy that played vs the Bucs. If he’s gone for good then imo we should just move on already.

Arguing which 10 ppg player gets them to 90pts is irrelevant. No they didn't play better without Herro, they finally started making shots they are supposed to because that's all they can do and Jimmy woke up.. Now those shots aren't dropping and you have a 2pt starting back court. Herro though....


There he is!!

Just be happy I'm not commenting on certain players
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Post#373 » by 3ammy3uck3ts » Mon Jun 12, 2023 11:22 pm

Hallstar wrote:
3ammy3uck3ts wrote:
Hallstar wrote:Arguing which 10 ppg player gets them to 90pts is irrelevant. No they didn't play better without Herro, they finally started making shots they are supposed to because that's all they can do and Jimmy woke up.. Now those shots aren't dropping and you have a 2pt starting back court. Herro though....


There he is!!

Just be happy I'm not commenting on certain players


The hostility!! Surely not about our best player this series but I agree, Gabe and Strus have been terrible these last 2. Let’s hope they snap out of it!
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Post#374 » by 3ammy3uck3ts » Mon Jun 12, 2023 11:24 pm

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So no changes to the starting lineup?
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Post#375 » by powerball1373 » Mon Jun 12, 2023 11:26 pm

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Post#376 » by dolphinatik » Mon Jun 12, 2023 11:31 pm

Spo should have put Herro in during garbage minutes of previous games. And what is going on with Gabe its like he doesnt have the same green light he had before. We need to go all out meaning Zeller, Highsmith, everyone getting their 6 fouls. Nothing easy for the Nuggets. Run them out of the game they must be tired.
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Post#377 » by HeatFanDan » Mon Jun 12, 2023 11:35 pm

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dolphinatik wrote:In for epic night. Either a new champ is crowned or another page in our story gets written.

Another epic Finals failure in the book of Spoelstra.
2 of 6 in NBA Finals, that’s hot garbage.


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Any other coach in the league with this team was golfing 2 months ago. Spolstra over-achieving with lack luster rosters year after year is some how a knock because he didn't overachieve.....enough?

Dial up a few years with Mark Jackson or someone of his ilk and you wont be spending any time complaining about failure in the finals.

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Post#378 » by powerball1373 » Mon Jun 12, 2023 11:39 pm

dolphinatik wrote:Spo should have put Herro in during garbage minutes of previous games. And what is going on with Gabe its like he doesnt have the same green light he had before. We need to go all out meaning Zeller, Highsmith, everyone getting their 6 fouls. Nothing easy for the Nuggets. Run them out of the game they must be tired.


1. The team doctors didn't clear him last game, so Spo didn't have the option to put him in during garbage time.

2. Gabe hasn't lost the green light, he's just in foul trouble, not getting open looks, or missing shots... aka an undrafted bench player regressing to his mean.

3. Everyone getting their 6 fouls sounds like a lot of free throws for the Nuggets lol.
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Post#379 » by HeatFanDan » Mon Jun 12, 2023 11:40 pm

Bishop45 wrote:Compete.

I live here in Denver, Bish, and the consensus among their "fans" is that we're just gonna lay down tonight. Win or lose, we can't go out like that.
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Post#380 » by Flash4thewin » Mon Jun 12, 2023 11:45 pm

We deserve everything we get tonight. We played with the Celtics and made it a 7 game series. Based off of the last time we were in the finals I expect Bam to have a great game tonight, Butler no comment.

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