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Re: Andrew Bynum 

Post#381 » by WD » Tue Jan 7, 2014 9:00 pm

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Nobody will pick him up because they would have to pay that 12 mil contract in full. nobody is that crazy i think lmao

Don't say nobody, there are a few teams that would pick him up to block Miami
Who? I can't think of any under the cap except Boston...and I don't think Ainge cares enough about us anymore to make that kind of move. The better he makes his team, the worse of a chance to draft Wiggins/Parker. He could sign him and then shut him down, but then he's literally giving away $12 mil for nothing. That won't sit well with fans of Boston. And iirc, he's guaranteed for TWO years if his waivers are picked up. No way in hell would anyone do it unless they actually want him. Especially of his potential to be a lockerroom cancer. I just don't see it.

But I don't know. Who's to really say he'll clear waivers until he actually does? Who's to say he'll decide to come here? Who's to say if he comes here, that it will actually work in our favor? I'm just going to be patient and enjoy what we have.

Y r overthinking this, let's wait and see
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Re: Andrew Bynum 

Post#382 » by HeatDaChamps » Tue Jan 7, 2014 9:00 pm

shanedude wrote:Clips don't want him :)



are u referring to that one article? the heat said they dont want him either. Clippers waived stephen jackson, heat are keeping roger mason. I mean.....
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Re: Andrew Bynum 

Post#383 » by WD » Tue Jan 7, 2014 9:01 pm

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AlexCRO wrote:Michael Wallace has a point with this post.

If Riley bit on Blount, Ilgauskas, Dampier, Curry, Turiaf & Oden, he'd likely crave for Bynum - even if it's overindulgence


exactly
all this nonsense about "this isn't a heat style signing" yadda yadda yadda

get real

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Post#384 » by shanedude » Tue Jan 7, 2014 9:01 pm

I'm referring to the WT. Where did you see the Heat don't want him?
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Post#385 » by He's Heating Up » Tue Jan 7, 2014 9:01 pm

Clippers shying away from Bynum now, reports say

https://twitter.com/BA_Turner/status/420650209371099136

If the Heat want him, they should be able to get him.
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Re: Andrew Bynum 

Post#386 » by Lord Hades » Tue Jan 7, 2014 9:04 pm

Whether or not Mason is waived today doesn't really mean all that much to me. That's a minimum contract. The cost isn't all that big of a deal if they have to eat the full value of it later. Sure, you'd want to realize the savings if you knew that's what you wanted to do, but it's not worth potentially losing him on a waiver claim when he has a decent role as 3rd/Emergency PG; not for a guy who very well can choose another team in two days. That's not a hard contract to move down the line (likely with a conditional 2nd) or, better yet, try (somehow) to trade Joel. No need to do something hasty.

I'm more concerned about a lot of what's said here...
Oh, hey, Andrew Bynum! The Bulls will waive him immediately, he'll clear waivers, and the bidding will begin among Miami, the Clippers, and any other playoff team seeking a rotation big man. I've seen speculation that Bynum is the missing piece Miami needs to ensure continued superiority over the Pacers.

I'm not sure what the Bynum optimists have seen this year. This is a broken player who can barely get up and down the court, can't finish at the rim, and can't move at all on defense. Bynum is shooting 42 percent, a catastrophe for a big man who hangs around the rim. He has hit just 46.8 percent of his chances in the restricted area, a bad mark for a player of any size, and he has compensated by drifting away from the hoop. About 30 percent of Bynum's shot attempts have come between 10 and 19 feet away from the basket this season; about 8 percent of his shots came from that range in his final season with the Lakers. Bynum is a serviceable midrange shooter, but this is a bit much.

He's still a very good offensive rebounder, and he draws double-teams in the post. But some of those double-teams stem from the opponent's belief that it can pressure Bynum into turnovers, since he has never been all that good passing out of double-teams. He's still blocking shots at a decent rate. A large human is a real deterrent at the basket.

But the guy just can't move. Cleveland allows 11 fast-break points per 48 minutes when Bynum sits, and nearly 19 when he plays, per NBA.com. That first number would rank Cleveland among the league's four best teams at preventing fast-break points. The larger number would rank them dead last, by a mile. Bynum single-handedly kills any team's transition defense, and he's helpless moving around the foul line to contain pick-and-rolls. A smart system could leverage what remaining skills he has, and he might help on the glass in the right matchup — and in very small doses. He's better than Byron Mullens, Antawn Jamison, and Ryan Hollins.

But Bynum has looked bad this season. There have been a lot of anonymous potshots about Bynum's enthusiasm for basketball, his work ethic, his passion. Some of that is fair. His demeanor on the court is blasé, and he rarely runs hard. But sources in both Philadelphia and Cleveland maintain Bynum was a monster in his rehab for both teams — that he did everything asked of him, and more, and showed a real desire to get back on the court. Whether he did that for money or love of the game is an open question, but there are people in both franchises who feel Bynum has gotten an unfair shake.

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Re: Andrew Bynum 

Post#387 » by KingDavid » Tue Jan 7, 2014 9:05 pm

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shanedude wrote:Clips don't want him :)



are u referring to that one article? the heat said they dont want him either. Clippers waived stephen jackson, heat are keeping roger mason. I mean.....
we said that last summer...
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Re: Andrew Bynum 

Post#388 » by KingDavid » Tue Jan 7, 2014 9:07 pm

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WD wrote:Don't say nobody, there are a few teams that would pick him up to block Miami
Who? I can't think of any under the cap except Boston...and I don't think Ainge cares enough about us anymore to make that kind of move. The better he makes his team, the worse of a chance to draft Wiggins/Parker. He could sign him and then shut him down, but then he's literally giving away $12 mil for nothing. That won't sit well with fans of Boston. And iirc, he's guaranteed for TWO years if his waivers are picked up. No way in hell would anyone do it unless they actually want him. Especially of his potential to be a lockerroom cancer. I just don't see it.

But I don't know. Who's to really say he'll clear waivers until he actually does? Who's to say he'll decide to come here? Who's to say if he comes here, that it will actually work in our favor? I'm just going to be patient and enjoy what we have.

Y r overthinking this, let's wait and see
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Re: Andrew Bynum 

Post#389 » by KingDavid » Tue Jan 7, 2014 9:11 pm

By the way, a lot of you at looking at Bynum the wrong way. He's been a top option on every team he's been on. If he comes here, with the spacing we provide and the great passers we have, I think he'll be fine offensively. Defense has me a bit nervous though. We're probably going to have to ”Shaq” him.
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Re: Andrew Bynum 

Post#390 » by Altered_Beast » Tue Jan 7, 2014 9:12 pm

All I'm saying is literally nothing bad can happen today. If we don't get him big whoop. If we do its a bonus and well lose a chucker in mason or jj

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Re: Andrew Bynum 

Post#391 » by AlexCRO » Tue Jan 7, 2014 9:14 pm

Never enough bigs. NEVER
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Re: Andrew Bynum 

Post#392 » by WD » Tue Jan 7, 2014 9:15 pm

We some greedy mofos, always dumpster diving :)
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Post#393 » by shanedude » Tue Jan 7, 2014 9:16 pm

How long is it until he clears waivers?
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Post#394 » by AlexCRO » Tue Jan 7, 2014 9:17 pm

Now that i think about it didnt Spo and Riley been saying all season something about roster flexibility or am i wrong ?
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Post#395 » by MisterHibachi » Tue Jan 7, 2014 9:17 pm

shanedude wrote:How long is it until he clears waivers?


48 hours. So Thursday around this time.
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Re: Andrew Bynum 

Post#396 » by AlexCRO » Tue Jan 7, 2014 9:17 pm

shanedude wrote:How long is it until he clears waivers?


48 hours so on thursday he will be free if nobody picks him up.
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Post#397 » by RexBoyWonder » Tue Jan 7, 2014 9:29 pm

AlexCRO wrote:Now that i think about it didnt Spo and Riley been saying all season something about roster flexibility or am i wrong ?


Yes, and we've added a few rotation players mid-season in the past few years.

That's partly why we gave Beas and Roger mason unguaranteed contract, we wanted to be able to pickup a player that gets loose mid season. I doubt anybody thought it could be Bynum.
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Re: Andrew Bynum 

Post#398 » by heater4life » Tue Jan 7, 2014 9:30 pm

Theres a ton of factors with Bynum. Is he fit enough to play Heat basketball? Can he improve his pick n roll play? Will he have the work ethic to play on a championship team? Is he a locker room cancer? WIll his signing affect Greg Odens development/recovery?

Too many questions marks if you ask me. I say we pass.
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Re: Andrew Bynum 

Post#399 » by AlexCRO » Tue Jan 7, 2014 9:33 pm

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AlexCRO wrote:Now that i think about it didnt Spo and Riley been saying all season something about roster flexibility or am i wrong ?


Yes, and we've added a few rotation players mid-season in the past few years.

That's partly why we gave Beas and Roger mason unguaranteed contract, we wanted to be able to pickup a player that gets loose mid season. I doubt anybody thought it could be Bynum.


yeah you are right i thought i heard something about flexibility of our roster. yeah who would have thought about bynum. i just know that you cant have never enough bigs.
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Re: Andrew Bynum 

Post#400 » by WD » Tue Jan 7, 2014 9:34 pm

heater4life wrote:Theres a ton of factors with Bynum. Is he fit enough to play Heat basketball? Can he improve his pick n roll play? Will he have the work ethic to play on a championship team? Is he a locker room cancer? WIll his signing affect Greg Odens development/recovery?

Too many questions marks if you ask me. I say we pass.

this was my initial position, however i only want to sign him to relieve shane from having to guard west, and to guard hibbert
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