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2024-25 Regular Season Thread Vol. 2

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Re: 2024-25 Regular Season Thread Vol. 2 

Post#381 » by MettaWorldPanda » Wed Dec 18, 2024 12:04 am

Pat and the front office are trying to run a having their cake and eating too situation with Jimmy and it looks like he’s not having it anymore. The goal was to try and get Jimmy’s best in a contract year and then discuss extension in off season. Also get the best seed possible and pay out OKC. Butler seems like he’s auditioning for the teams he wants to be traded to now. The few week ultimatum is when chit starts to get mad mad real with Jimmy and chit hits the point of no return.
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Post#382 » by DayofMourning » Wed Dec 18, 2024 12:06 am

MettaWorldPanda wrote:Pat and the front office are trying to run a having their cake and eating too situation with Jimmy and it looks like he’s not having it anymore. The goal was to try and get Jimmy’s best in a contract year and then discuss extension in off season. Also get the best seed possible and pay out OKC. Butler seems like he’s auditioning for the teams he wants to be traded to now. The few week ultimatum is when chit starts to get mad mad real with Jimmy and chit hits the point of no return.


At least Jimmy is auditioning well. Keep triple doubling. Eventually the Rox might take notice.
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Re: 2024-25 Regular Season Thread Vol. 2 

Post#383 » by EMC5466 » Wed Dec 18, 2024 12:10 am

Ethan Skolnick is an idiot.
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Re: 2024-25 Regular Season Thread Vol. 2 

Post#384 » by MettaWorldPanda » Wed Dec 18, 2024 12:10 am

DayofMourning wrote:
MettaWorldPanda wrote:Pat and the front office are trying to run a having their cake and eating too situation with Jimmy and it looks like he’s not having it anymore. The goal was to try and get Jimmy’s best in a contract year and then discuss extension in off season. Also get the best seed possible and pay out OKC. Butler seems like he’s auditioning for the teams he wants to be traded to now. The few week ultimatum is when chit starts to get mad mad real with Jimmy and chit hits the point of no return.


At least Jimmy is auditioning well. Keep triple doubling. Eventually the Rox might take notice.

It benefits him to audition well. Any team that trades assets for him is essentially committing to signing him. If the front office plays this the wrong way though it can seriously blow up in there face badly
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Re: 2024-25 Regular Season Thread Vol. 2 

Post#385 » by MettaWorldPanda » Wed Dec 18, 2024 12:17 am

DayofMourning wrote:Beal would look reall good in a Rox jersey.

It’s really hard to trade someone on a NTC and especially one with this type of back story for how he even got to the Suns lol

Bradley Beal's trade to the Phoenix Suns appeared to involve some family business between parties involved in the negotiations. His agent Mark Bartelstein happens to be the father of Suns' CEO Josh Bartelstein.
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Re: 2024-25 Regular Season Thread Vol. 2 

Post#386 » by contract » Wed Dec 18, 2024 12:21 am

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What's odd about this video is Shams says near the end about the Butler situation is that we will see this play out in the coming weeks, as if something is going to happen.

This isn't really hard to decipher. Jimmy's chances of getting anyone to give him a long term big money deal get worse with every day he gets older, so his agent wants to resolve the matter ASAP. Unfortunately I don't see a deal that makes sense for all parties.

My current gut feeling is that Jimmy will end the season with the Heat ... and maybe even pick up his player option.
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Re: 2024-25 Regular Season Thread Vol. 2 

Post#387 » by 3ammy3uck3ts » Wed Dec 18, 2024 12:28 am

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Post#388 » by 3ammy3uck3ts » Wed Dec 18, 2024 12:30 am

Kuzma/Herro stuff is WAY overblown lol like it’s a complete non issue/story. These nba players pass around the same thots over and over again
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Post#389 » by twix2500 » Wed Dec 18, 2024 12:31 am

3ammy3uck3ts wrote:Kuzma/Herro stuff is WAY overblown lol like it’s a complete non issue/story. These nba players pass around the same thots over and over again


They fight over the same thot quiet often. Its sad...
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Post#390 » by 3ammy3uck3ts » Wed Dec 18, 2024 12:34 am

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Trading this after 5 years of not trying to maximize this is stupid, anyone with assets not looking to trade for this is also stupid.
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Post#391 » by contract » Wed Dec 18, 2024 12:35 am

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MettaWorldPanda wrote:Jimmy keeps on fanning the flames between his camp and his subliminal messages. Wearing the GSW colored shoes like cmon man really? But like i said Pat kinda invited this element to come into play with not offering extension and talking about playing in more games. The front office has to pick a direction here cause eventually this trolling doesn’t become funny anymore and starts rubbing people the wrong way.


Yeah, this shtick is not going to sit well with Riley - guarantee that. The shoes is one thing, the hair is another. Jimmy isn't exactly being subtle about it, even if I'm not 100% sure if it's legit or him trolling.

Wade with the "house divided" comments too. Clearly there's angst there that has been brewing, and it's going to come to a head at some stage.

Shams is well and truly doubling down, and he isn't really wrong often at all...

I'd be OK with shutting Jimmy down until a deal can be worked out or his contract expires. His regular season impact isn't that great anyway.
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Re: 2024-25 Regular Season Thread Vol. 2 

Post#392 » by 3ammy3uck3ts » Wed Dec 18, 2024 12:52 am

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3ammy3uck3ts wrote:Kuzma/Herro stuff is WAY overblown lol like it’s a complete non issue/story. These nba players pass around the same thots over and over again


They fight over the same thot quiet often. Its sad...


I wish they’d pass me around :cry:
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Re: 2024-25 Regular Season Thread Vol. 2 

Post#393 » by 3ammy3uck3ts » Wed Dec 18, 2024 12:54 am

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MettaWorldPanda wrote:Jimmy keeps on fanning the flames between his camp and his subliminal messages. Wearing the GSW colored shoes like cmon man really? But like i said Pat kinda invited this element to come into play with not offering extension and talking about playing in more games. The front office has to pick a direction here cause eventually this trolling doesn’t become funny anymore and starts rubbing people the wrong way.


Yeah, this shtick is not going to sit well with Riley - guarantee that. The shoes is one thing, the hair is another. Jimmy isn't exactly being subtle about it, even if I'm not 100% sure if it's legit or him trolling.

Wade with the "house divided" comments too. Clearly there's angst there that has been brewing, and it's going to come to a head at some stage.

Shams is well and truly doubling down, and he isn't really wrong often at all...

I'd be OK with shutting Jimmy down until a deal can be worked out or his contract expires. His regular season impact isn't that great anyway.


This is what I’ve been saying as well. What offers are we getting and are they even close to interesting and are they pushing you to lean that direction? If so, you need to shut him down to avoid injury and also a plus to the receiving team because he will be better rested because he’s going to need as many reps as possible with his new team. Which is also another reason why if it’s going to happen it needs to happen sooner rather than later.
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Re: 2024-25 Regular Season Thread Vol. 2 

Post#394 » by 3ammy3uck3ts » Wed Dec 18, 2024 12:58 am

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Post#395 » by 3ammy3uck3ts » Wed Dec 18, 2024 1:00 am

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Re: 2024-25 Regular Season Thread Vol. 2 

Post#396 » by MettaWorldPanda » Wed Dec 18, 2024 1:01 am

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MettaWorldPanda wrote:Jimmy keeps on fanning the flames between his camp and his subliminal messages. Wearing the GSW colored shoes like cmon man really? But like i said Pat kinda invited this element to come into play with not offering extension and talking about playing in more games. The front office has to pick a direction here cause eventually this trolling doesn’t become funny anymore and starts rubbing people the wrong way.


Yeah, this shtick is not going to sit well with Riley - guarantee that. The shoes is one thing, the hair is another. Jimmy isn't exactly being subtle about it, even if I'm not 100% sure if it's legit or him trolling.

Wade with the "house divided" comments too. Clearly there's angst there that has been brewing, and it's going to come to a head at some stage.

Shams is well and truly doubling down, and he isn't really wrong often at all...

I'd be OK with shutting Jimmy down until a deal can be worked out or his contract expires. His regular season impact isn't that great anyway.

Every single win matters right now. It’s a race to pay out OKC the 2025 pick or it becomes unprotected in 2026. Imagine no Jimmy next year and having to cough up that pick too.
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Post#397 » by AirP. » Wed Dec 18, 2024 1:05 am

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Yeah, this shtick is not going to sit well with Riley - guarantee that. The shoes is one thing, the hair is another. Jimmy isn't exactly being subtle about it, even if I'm not 100% sure if it's legit or him trolling.

Wade with the "house divided" comments too. Clearly there's angst there that has been brewing, and it's going to come to a head at some stage.

Shams is well and truly doubling down, and he isn't really wrong often at all...

I'd be OK with shutting Jimmy down until a deal can be worked out or his contract expires. His regular season impact isn't that great anyway.

Every single win matters right now. It’s a race to pay out OKC the 2025 pick or it becomes unprotected in 2026. Imagine no Jimmy next year and having to cough up that pick too.

That would be a good thing if you can keep your pick in the 2026 draft, no Butler and getting nothing or very little for him (for next season's roster) means this team will be higher in the draft than this year's spot.

I think Butler took a little more offense for some of the shots Riley took at him, especially with how little of help Riley and the FO had brought in during his tenure. They chased Giannis making the roster worse doing so, did nothing for a whole summer chasing KD, Mitchell and then Lillard while using most of their picks for players who will be ready after Butler is done.

I wouldn't be surprised if Butler took less to go elsewhere in the offseason, this may be a respect issue.
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Re: 2024-25 Regular Season Thread Vol. 2 

Post#398 » by MettaWorldPanda » Wed Dec 18, 2024 1:06 am

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This totally reminds me of Durant wanting the Heat and me continuously stating we had no chance at him . Suns finally caved but they actually had good assets to get him. Team with the best assets wins and it’s 100% not the Suns in this case just like Tyler Herro and 2 1st rd picks was never going to get Durant.
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Re: 2024-25 Regular Season Thread Vol. 2 

Post#399 » by MettaWorldPanda » Wed Dec 18, 2024 1:10 am

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contract wrote:I'd be OK with shutting Jimmy down until a deal can be worked out or his contract expires. His regular season impact isn't that great anyway.

Every single win matters right now. It’s a race to pay out OKC the 2025 pick or it becomes unprotected in 2026. Imagine no Jimmy next year and having to cough up that pick too.

That would be a good thing if you can keep your pick in the 2026 draft, no Butler and getting nothing or very little for him (for next season's roster) means this team will be higher in the draft than this year's spot.

That’s why there’s no way they’re getting fleeced for Butler and will either keep him or trade him for the best haul they can that keeps them in the playoff hunt. They need to pay out OKC this year or else they’re really screwed but also have to keep in mind the repeater tax so taking on another 50 mil long term deal is not in the cards either.
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Re: 2024-25 Regular Season Thread Vol. 2 

Post#400 » by AirP. » Wed Dec 18, 2024 1:14 am

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MettaWorldPanda wrote:Every single win matters right now. It’s a race to pay out OKC the 2025 pick or it becomes unprotected in 2026. Imagine no Jimmy next year and having to cough up that pick too.

That would be a good thing if you can keep your pick in the 2026 draft, no Butler and getting nothing or very little for him (for next season's roster) means this team will be higher in the draft than this year's spot.

That’s why there’s no way they’re getting fleeced for Butler and will either keep him or trade him for the best haul they can that keeps them in the playoff hunt. They need to pay out OKC this year or else they’re really screwed but also have to keep in mind the repeater tax so taking on another 50 mil long term deal is not in the cards either.

Right, I don't think he's getting moved unless it's almost all expiring contracts coming back, the FO has painted themselves into a financial corner and the FO/Riley can make Butler the bad guy for leaving vs taking back money that would put them in the repeater next year. If you look around this roster you have to question yourself, is this roster quality wise worth being in the tax, I wouldn't think so. Miami had Butler, Bam and Herro in 2019 (you can also include Robinson in that group) and they've really not added anything of high value in half a decade, just short-term overpayments of players past their prime while saying they were chasing top tier players that resulted in not doing anything 3-4 of those offseasons. Even adding Tucker was a last PF standing in the 2020 offseason after refusing to give Crowder 10 mil a year for 3 seasons.

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