MIAMI HEAT Offseason Thread 2021 Vol.4 - Beasley Time

[MettaWorldPanda]

Danny Green time

[MettaWorldPanda]

The issue is the way we operated with the over the cap set up is we got hard capped and needed to fill out the roster cheaply. We gave up Precious and Nunn to do that.

To make it work we needed guys to come here for cheap. That isn’t happening. Yea, I get we are less attractive than LAL and GS at the moment, but the way we constructed our roster was that we needed to attract these guys to low deals. We messed up.

This is the only way we could get Lowry at the price he wanted though.

If we declined Dragic what would of been our cap room? I don’t profess to be a cap expert by any means.

23-27 million with a 4.7 room exception.

[RexBoyWonder]

All I know is - we better had a good reason to pull that Nunn offer - and not saving money reason.

We need him now. Need a backup, need a tradable contract, can't just drop players we need like that

[SoFlaKingReal]

Teams didn't have much film on him his first year, now they do and understand better how to slow him down. Luckily it's only 5 years.

Cant hurt to have an actual PG now to increase the quality of Duncan looks.

Couldn't hurt to have an average or above NBA skill other then shooting 3s.

Idk why you going down this rabbit hole. I stand by my initial statement....all of this rides on how Butler and Bam produce. If Butler and Bam aren't doing work everynight like their paychecks suggest they should, then it wont matter what Duncan or Herro do.

[HeatIn5]

Could see us trying to get Thad or Aminu from Spurs

[AirP.]

Cant hurt to have an actual PG now to increase the quality of Duncan looks.

Couldn't hurt to have an average or above NBA skill other then shooting 3s.

Idk why you going down this rabbit hole. I stand by my initial statement....all of this rides on how Butler and Bam produce. If Butler and Bam aren't doing work everynight like their paychecks suggest they should, then it wont matter what Duncan or Herro do.

It's because the league average for 3pt% is 37%, Duncan is a good 3pt shooter and that's it, Miami could have gotten another way better all around player for maybe 3-8 million more a year.

It will be interesting to hear the talk on this board about Robinson's contract in a 1-2 seasons, let alone 3-4 seasons down the road.

I'm sticking with my take, you don't spend 2/3s of a max on a one trick pony.

[RexBoyWonder]

This is the only way we could get Lowry at the price he wanted though.

If we declined Dragic what would of been our cap room? I don’t profess to be a cap expert by any means.

23-27 million with a 4.7 room exception.

Isn't that better since we would've kept Precious, Nunn, maybe Dragic takes discount,

instead we lost all 3, lost a future second rounder too we hear, got the same Lowry but with PJ frriging Tucker?

I swear it's like I'm living in an alternative universe

How are you guys ok with this?

[Grumpy Heat Fan]

All I know is - we better had a good reason to pull that Nunn offer - and not saving money reason.

We need him now. Need a backup, need a tradable contract, can't just drop players we need like that

dude, you've been a Heat fan for a long time.

Arison is a cheap ass. We all know this. I would not be shocked at all if this is just to save money.


In the past, we freaking sold draft picks for cash considerations. What type of owner does that? I'd never sell my draft picks. I'd keep them all in the hopes one of them turns out to be something.


Arison is a cheap skate and we have to suffer through it. We are lucky Pat Riley is a genius and still makes it work.

[AirP.]

If we declined Dragic what would of been our cap room? I don’t profess to be a cap expert by any means.

23-27 million with a 4.7 room exception.

Isn't that better since we would've kept Precious, Nunn, maybe Dragic takes discount,

instead we lost all 3, lost a future second rounder too we hear, got the same Lowry but with PJ frriging Tucker?

I swear it's like I'm living in an alternative universe

How are you guys ok with this?

Right, Tucker still could have signed for the MLE and could have resigned Dragic.

The only plus right now is that Miami still has Oladipo's cap hold.

So as of now, Oladipo's cap hold > Precious, Dragic, and any other asset that may be sent in the Lowry trade.

[SoFlaKingReal]

Couldn't hurt to have an average or above NBA skill other then shooting 3s.

Idk why you going down this rabbit hole. I stand by my initial statement....all of this rides on how Butler and Bam produce. If Butler and Bam aren't doing work everynight like their paychecks suggest they should, then it wont matter what Duncan or Herro do.

It's because the league average for 3pt% is 37%, Duncan is a good 3pt shooter and that's it, Miami could have gotten another way better all around player for maybe 3-8 million more a year.

It will be interesting to hear the talk on this board about Robinson's contract in a 1-2 seasons, let alone 3-4 seasons down the road.

Sounds like you need to start a new anti-Duncan thread. What I was talking about is how we need our "star" players in Butler and Bam to play like it, or nothing else matters.

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[RexBoyWonder]

23-27 million with a 4.7 room exception.

Isn't that better since we would've kept Precious, Nunn, maybe Dragic takes discount,

instead we lost all 3, lost a future second rounder too we hear, got the same Lowry but with PJ frriging Tucker?

I swear it's like I'm living in an alternative universe

How are you guys ok with this?

Right, Tucker still could have signed for the MLE and could have resigned Dragic.

The only plus right now is that Miami still has Oladipo's cap hold.

So as of now, Oladipo's cap hold > Precious, Dragic, and any other asset that may be sent in the Lowry trade.

I don't even want friggin Tucker!

Dipo is a good point, but we've still haven't heard we're keeping him..so

[SoFlaKingReal]

23-27 million with a 4.7 room exception.

Isn't that better since we would've kept Precious, Nunn, maybe Dragic takes discount,

instead we lost all 3, lost a future second rounder too we hear, got the same Lowry but with PJ frriging Tucker?

I swear it's like I'm living in an alternative universe

How are you guys ok with this?

Right, Tucker still could have signed for the MLE and could have resigned Dragic.

The only plus right now is that Miami still has Oladipo's cap hold.

So as of now, Oladipo's cap hold > Precious, Dragic, and any other asset that may be sent in the Lowry trade.

Naw. This was the only way to get Lowry. If not, he's off to Dallas or New Orleans for the money.

Plus, Tucker signed part of the larger MLE that comes with operating as a over the cap team.

[heat4life]

People saying DeRozan can't shoot don't know much about basketball. Shooting 3pters are not the only form of shooting in Basketball. There is a much more important shooting level that makes teams elite... the mid-range. And DeRozan happens to be one of best in the league at it. DeRozan shot 51% between 3-10ft, 46% between 10-16ft and 48% between 16ft-3pt line. How in the world is that not a good shooter?

Middleton just gave us a tutorial on how to win series with the mid-range. DeRozan is not an elite player but he is super underrated with his offense. Chicago got A LOT better with this signing. Too bad Miami couldn't make it happen.

[Grumpy Heat Fan]

If we declined Dragic what would of been our cap room? I don’t profess to be a cap expert by any means.

23-27 million with a 4.7 room exception.

Isn't that better since we would've kept Precious, Nunn, maybe Dragic takes discount,

instead we lost all 3, lost a future second rounder too we hear, got the same Lowry but with PJ frriging Tucker?

I swear it's like I'm living in an alternative universe

How are you guys ok with this?

I hear you Rex. You are right and we all know it.

But what can we do.

Riles gave Robinson a one dimensional shooter, 90 mil. Why didn't we just bring back Wayne Ellington on a 1 year min deal to rain 3s as a catch and shoot 3pt player, and run our offense through Lowry and Jimmy? We could have S&T Robinson on a chunky contract to any other team and gotten a legit PF in return

[AirP.]

Idk why you going down this rabbit hole. I stand by my initial statement....all of this rides on how Butler and Bam produce. If Butler and Bam aren't doing work everynight like their paychecks suggest they should, then it wont matter what Duncan or Herro do.

It's because the league average for 3pt% is 37%, Duncan is a good 3pt shooter and that's it, Miami could have gotten another way better all around player for maybe 3-8 million more a year.

It will be interesting to hear the talk on this board about Robinson's contract in a 1-2 seasons, let alone 3-4 seasons down the road.

Sounds like you need to start a new anti-Duncan thread. What I was talking about is how we need our "star" players in Butler and Bam to play like it, or nothing else matters.

Butler had his best season last year but stunk in one playoff series, without Butler this team would have been one of the worst in the league(like they were when Butler was out), so Miami decides to give Robinson 90 mil over 5 years even though we all saw how bad this team was with him and Bam healthy and Butler was out. Good god, without Butler Miami gets swept in the finals last year, he willed this team to 2 wins. Robinson wasn't hurt

BTW... Robinson dropped 11.7 and 10.3 ppg the last 2 playoffs. He put up 75 points in 6 finals games... 90 million! I kinda think who you put around your top players matter.

[MettaWorldPanda]

Paul Millsap still hanging out there

[RexBoyWonder]

Paul Millsap still hanging out there

did he kill himself or...

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[MettaWorldPanda]

Paul Millsap still hanging out there

did he kill himself or...

Iggie's going to get his wish of Frank the Tank