Roster moves in off-season.

[HEATVols865]

The switch defense is the biggest BS. All it does is leave shooters open. Can you imagine what the Warriors would have done to us playing that garbage switch defense?!?!?!


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[Vertical Limit]

It's difficult to say this without hurting people or imaginations... we have a pretty good team with good coaches... not much is really going to change, not even the small ball constant strategy

We have been to the ecf or finals with this team or similar in the last 3 years and almost the same way of playing... not even close to the best way but with lots of success... this is it in REALITY

Yea im hearing some wild imaginations on this thread…

The only one truly available is kyrie and thats because the nets wont commit longterm for reasons that are completely WITH merit.. the guy is a **** looney toon.. but easily better than anyone not names Butler on this team.

[AirP.]

Spoiler:

Butler and Lowry aren't going anywhere, Lowry's minutes have to be dropped in the regular season and I think they will, maybe Vincent gets a lot more minutes, maybe Oladipo eats into those also, maybe a new player?

PJ opts in and stays, his minutes have to be dropped and a future starting PF has to be brought into take some of his minutes.

Bam will only get traded if they can upgrade him which means he's probably staying unless Embiid forces his way out which I doubt happens. Bam is one of the few bigs who can somewhat handle the elite centers in the league.

Oladipo and Martin probably are retained. Adding a future starting PF allows Martin to play backup 3.

With the above Miami has Lowry, Oladipo, Butler, Tucker and Bam back... you're starting 5 everyone else is up for trade that isn't a FA.

I'd expect Miami will try not to trade Strus or Vincent and keep them as cheap rotation players.

Robinson's salary will be in some sort of packaged trade.

To not trade Herro would be insane, he'll never be a major cog for a high level playoff team because he'll get hunted much like Robinson. His playoff TS% was .490 this season, he shot 23% from 3pt range and was a -11 in ORTG-DRTG. Anyone in Miami that considers paying him what he'll seek is crazy but... you can just add that to a nice long list of overpaying players to instantly regret it. D.Robinson, Waiters, J.Johnson, T.Johnson, and Whiteside...

As long as Bam is in Miami they're going to switch everything, it's the reason why they drafted him.

Miami needs a backup/future starting PF.

If Yurtseven isn't traded (I think they'll move him) he'll be the backup center.

Dedmon may be back as an out of the rotation backup center.

UD will eat up a roster spot while basically being an assistant coach once again.

Butler's play should still be great for most of his contract, I would expect with as much as Butler went with a 3pt shot he's really going to work on his 3 ball to let his body rest more on the offensive end. While playing how he is probably will decline over the next few years, adding a legit 3pt shot will make him a better player overall.

I'm expecting at least 1 big trade this summer, possibly one or 2 smaller ones also.

The roster in the next 2-4 years will be better than this year's roster. Better days are coming but who knows if the same opportunities are coming to make the finals.

If we trade Yurtseven because he doesn’t fit what Spo wants, I hope they find something nasty about Arison and force the team to be sold.


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Yeah... Miami came within 1or 2 plays of going to the finals 2 of the last 3 years, this team really is bad. I'd point out not trading for CP3 a month after acquiring Butler as a huge blunder and quite possibly not giving up more than Miami wanted to, to acquire a the future PF who would have backed up Tucker stopped Miami from making the finals this year. Both Rui Hachimura or PJ Washington as a backup 4/5(for Miami) and the future PF for this team probably would have been enough to get this team into the Finals this year, not only would the rotation be stronger, you probably wouldn't have needed to lean on PJ Tucker as much allowing him to be fresher in the playoffs.

For a team that has no problem trading draft picks, this FO can be quite stingy trading role-players for big minute players.

[unowen85]

I want Porzingis starting next to Bam. Make it happen, Riley.

[Flash4thewin]

We should remember after the extended playoffs in the Bubble, Butler came back and was dead in the playoff the next season and we got swept. Lowry can’t be depended on because of age and weight.

[MiamiSun]

All eyes on Utah.

[Vertical Limit]

Spoiler:

Butler and Lowry aren't going anywhere, Lowry's minutes have to be dropped in the regular season and I think they will, maybe Vincent gets a lot more minutes, maybe Oladipo eats into those also, maybe a new player?

PJ opts in and stays, his minutes have to be dropped and a future starting PF has to be brought into take some of his minutes.

Bam will only get traded if they can upgrade him which means he's probably staying unless Embiid forces his way out which I doubt happens. Bam is one of the few bigs who can somewhat handle the elite centers in the league.

Oladipo and Martin probably are retained. Adding a future starting PF allows Martin to play backup 3.

With the above Miami has Lowry, Oladipo, Butler, Tucker and Bam back... you're starting 5 everyone else is up for trade that isn't a FA.

I'd expect Miami will try not to trade Strus or Vincent and keep them as cheap rotation players.

Robinson's salary will be in some sort of packaged trade.

To not trade Herro would be insane, he'll never be a major cog for a high level playoff team because he'll get hunted much like Robinson. His playoff TS% was .490 this season, he shot 23% from 3pt range and was a -11 in ORTG-DRTG. Anyone in Miami that considers paying him what he'll seek is crazy but... you can just add that to a nice long list of overpaying players to instantly regret it. D.Robinson, Waiters, J.Johnson, T.Johnson, and Whiteside...

As long as Bam is in Miami they're going to switch everything, it's the reason why they drafted him.

Miami needs a backup/future starting PF.

If Yurtseven isn't traded (I think they'll move him) he'll be the backup center.

Dedmon may be back as an out of the rotation backup center.

UD will eat up a roster spot while basically being an assistant coach once again.

Butler's play should still be great for most of his contract, I would expect with as much as Butler went with a 3pt shot he's really going to work on his 3 ball to let his body rest more on the offensive end. While playing how he is probably will decline over the next few years, adding a legit 3pt shot will make him a better player overall.

I'm expecting at least 1 big trade this summer, possibly one or 2 smaller ones also.

The roster in the next 2-4 years will be better than this year's roster. Better days are coming but who knows if the same opportunities are coming to make the finals.

If we trade Yurtseven because he doesn’t fit what Spo wants, I hope they find something nasty about Arison and force the team to be sold.


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Yeah... Miami came within 1or 2 plays of going to the finals 2 of the last 3 years, this team really is bad. I'd point out not trading for CP3 a month after acquiring Butler as a huge blunder and quite possibly not giving up more than Miami wanted to, to acquire a the future PF who would have backed up Tucker stopped Miami from making the finals this year. Both Rui Hachimura or PJ Washington as a backup 4/5(for Miami) and the future PF for this team probably would have been enough to get this team into the Finals this year, not only would the rotation be stronger, you probably wouldn't have needed to lean on PJ Tucker as much allowing him to be fresher in the playoffs.

For a team that has no problem trading draft picks, this FO can be quite stingy trading role-players for big minute players.

Honesly its very unlike Riley not to sell high on obvious one dimensional role players. Idk whats up with him but its time to sell. im selling strus, gabe, herro and duncan..

[AirP.]

Miami's probably not quitting small ball, but they can size up!

Consider this.
Lowry, Butler, Tucker and Bam all back.
Oladipo and Martin resigned.
Miami probably brings back Dedmon as the backup nonrotation center.
Miami then signs Dragic to a minimum.
Miami tries to retain Strus, Vincent and Yurtseven (if he stays, he gets good minutes as the backup 5).

If Miami can get a sizable 4 in trade or in the draft who can switch and shoot 3s, PJ Tucker can go to the bench to play the small ball 5 with Martin playing the small ball 4. If they need size Yurtseven goes to center, Tucker goes to the 4, Martin to the 3 all.

It could look like this...
PG - Lowry, Dragic, Vincent
SG - Oladipo, Vincent, Strus
SF - Butler, Strus, Martin
PF - New PF, Martin, Tucker
C - Bam, Tucker?, Yurtseven, Dedmon

I am expecting Butler to work on his 3s this summer and be a better off ball spacer next year to save his knees wear and tear. I expect a good to great year from Oladipo with an offseason for him to work more rust off and actually have Spoelstra build the offense/defense for next year utilizing Oladipo better.

Herro, Robinson, Highsmith, Vincent, Strus, Yurtseven this year's 1st round rights and 1 or 2 future 1sts could be utilized to strengthen this roster for a title run for the next 2-3 years.

[AirP.]

Spoiler:

If we trade Yurtseven because he doesn’t fit what Spo wants, I hope they find something nasty about Arison and force the team to be sold.


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Yeah... Miami came within 1or 2 plays of going to the finals 2 of the last 3 years, this team really is bad. I'd point out not trading for CP3 a month after acquiring Butler as a huge blunder and quite possibly not giving up more than Miami wanted to, to acquire a the future PF who would have backed up Tucker stopped Miami from making the finals this year. Both Rui Hachimura or PJ Washington as a backup 4/5(for Miami) and the future PF for this team probably would have been enough to get this team into the Finals this year, not only would the rotation be stronger, you probably wouldn't have needed to lean on PJ Tucker as much allowing him to be fresher in the playoffs.

For a team that has no problem trading draft picks, this FO can be quite stingy trading role-players for big minute players.

Honesly its very unlike Riley not to sell high on obvious one dimensional role players. Idk whats up with him but its time to sell. im selling strus, gabe, herro and duncan..

Keep Strus as a low cost 3pt shooter off the bench for next year but absolutely look to develop another low cost 3pt shooter for the future to come off the bench.

[3ammy3uck3ts]

Yeah... Miami came within 1or 2 plays of going to the finals 2 of the last 3 years, this team really is bad. I'd point out not trading for CP3 a month after acquiring Butler as a huge blunder and quite possibly not giving up more than Miami wanted to, to acquire a the future PF who would have backed up Tucker stopped Miami from making the finals this year. Both Rui Hachimura or PJ Washington as a backup 4/5(for Miami) and the future PF for this team probably would have been enough to get this team into the Finals this year, not only would the rotation be stronger, you probably wouldn't have needed to lean on PJ Tucker as much allowing him to be fresher in the playoffs.

For a team that has no problem trading draft picks, this FO can be quite stingy trading role-players for big minute players.

Honesly its very unlike Riley not to sell high on obvious one dimensional role players. Idk whats up with him but its time to sell. im selling strus, gabe, herro and duncan..

Keep Strus as a low cost 3pt shooter off the bench for next year but absolutely look to develop another low cost 3pt shooter for the future to come off the bench.

That’s what they’re doing with Highsmith Mulder and Smart

[rickyt31]

I haven't been on here in a while.
I've been dying for a true 5 that can start with Bam. I'm tired of seeing him being the only one in the paint every shot. We need someone how can get 10+ rebounds.

I'm not sure which star player is available. I think Kyrie would be a great fit. He can score, distribute, and get steals on defense. I'm so mad about Lowery, I'm even considering Westbrook and fixing him. Kyrie, V.O, Butler, Bam, and a real center would be amazing.

[3ammy3uck3ts]

We’re literally a Herro trade away from a championship.

Herro, Duncan, Lowry, picks whatever it takes get it done. Lowry and Duncan can be flipped to a 3rd team in any scenario if needed too.

I’m starting at Mitchell, Beal, Kyrie, Lavine, Dame, and Harden and working my way down to lesser trades like a Jerami grant/Bey trade if we get turned down on all the others.

Kyrie and Hardens values have never been lower, they may actually be realistic

[3ammy3uck3ts]

Don’t forget Kyrie wanted to be here when he was traded from the Cavs and that’s also Jimmys boy

[3ammy3uck3ts]

Aside from those stars, if we want a big athletic player that can shoot and rebound next to Bam I like Bamba as the top priority there but looking at guys like Jalen Smith, O’Shea Brissett, PJ Washington, Hartenstein. Bamba would be the best fit on both sides

[rickyt31]

Kyrie, V.O, Butler, Bam, and Bamba would be perfect.

[Kobewade11]

Miami's probably not quitting small ball, but they can size up!

Consider this.
Lowry, Butler, Tucker and Bam all back.
Oladipo and Martin resigned.
Miami probably brings back Dedmon as the backup nonrotation center.
Miami then signs Dragic to a minimum.
Miami tries to retain Strus, Vincent and Yurtseven (if he stays, he gets good minutes as the backup 5).

If Miami can get a sizable 4 in trade or in the draft who can switch and shoot 3s, PJ Tucker can go to the bench to play the small ball 5 with Martin playing the small ball 4. If they need size Yurtseven goes to center, Tucker goes to the 4, Martin to the 3 all.

It could look like this...
PG - Lowry, Dragic, Vincent
SG - Oladipo, Vincent, Strus
SF - Butler, Strus, Martin
PF - New PF, Martin, Tucker
C - Bam, Tucker?, Yurtseven, Dedmon

I am expecting Butler to work on his 3s this summer and be a better off ball spacer next year to save his knees wear and tear. I expect a good to great year from Oladipo with an offseason for him to work more rust off and actually have Spoelstra build the offense/defense for next year utilizing Oladipo better.

Herro, Robinson, Highsmith, Vincent, Strus, Yurtseven this year's 1st round rights and 1 or 2 future 1sts could be utilized to strengthen this roster for a title run for the next 2-3 years.

This isnt it, like at all. You guys have to move on from Dragic, the answer is not adding another old injury prone guard to the roster. We need to move on from Dedmon too.

[wade44]

Would you guys do a straight up Jimmy for Mitchell swap?

[Bishop45]

Size wasn't this teams problem, lack of talent, offensive talent was

our size and mobility on defense might have been what has gotten us this far, even though folks hate it

[3ammy3uck3ts]

Would you guys do a straight up Jimmy for Mitchell swap?

No, we’re winning a championship with Jimmy.

[3ammy3uck3ts]

Size wasn't this teams problem, lack of talent, offensive talent was

our size and mobility on defense might have been what has gotten us this far, even though folks hate it

This. I’m not against getting bigger if it’s a Bamba, Turner type player sliding in the starting lineup but this isn’t the biggest issue. We literally gave away games 5 and 7 because role players forgot how to shoot 3s on their home court. Players who are considered shooters at that.

13-75 from 3 for games 5 & 7. That is just unbelievable.