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2025 Regular Season Thread Vol. 9

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Re: 2025 Regular Season Thread Vol. 9 

Post#41 » by SoFlaKingReal » Wed Mar 19, 2025 4:05 pm

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SoFlaKingReal wrote:Longest losing streak of Spoelstra’s tenure as HC. He’s cooked.


Its his worst year for sure as a game manager.


Spo is as safe as safe can get. No matter what happens, having to trade Jimmy mid season shines up the sh*t to make it look like choc cake. Even if it was just a bad season, we don’t have the personnel for them to blame Spo.

Those that have the fantasy of Spo getting sh*tcanned need to drop it. It won’t happen.


I think he steps away/slides into a front office role similar to what Brad Stevens did.
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Post#42 » by twix2500 » Wed Mar 19, 2025 4:23 pm

I am trying to be open minded to Spo coaching this year and not to be too critical because for one we dont see what he sees outside of game night. But man it is hard to not think he has failed tremendously this year and not all because of him but it is apparent that he has struggle to grasp this roster with his coaching philosophies.

This current roster has went from playing high competitive basketball for 3 quarter but struggle on the 4th quarter to now just struggle at everything.
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Post#43 » by DayofMourning » Wed Mar 19, 2025 4:49 pm

I dont want Spo gone by any measure, but his coaching tactics, especially lineups at pivotal times, are awkward and exploited.

We need to move some players out of the lineup entirely after this Spo tank job is over. Duncan and Rozier need to be moved, if possible.

We have to hit on our draft pick this year, and really develop chemistry, as we cannot gift OKC a premium pick.

Id assume all that means we will shoot for KD as well.
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Post#44 » by DayofMourning » Wed Mar 19, 2025 4:54 pm

KD to Heat

Duncan, Rozier, Jaime, Jovic, 2030 and 2032 1sts to Suns.

Does that work financially?
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Re: 2025 Regular Season Thread Vol. 9 

Post#45 » by al bondiga » Wed Mar 19, 2025 4:58 pm

Spo is in a struggle, but I think the keys here are bam And herro development... Will they grow?

spo Type of coaching is not the best for youth development, This season is just a sample...lot of coaches this way,
Hell Riley was this way, That's why he prefer older guys... We might think of magic and wade, Those Players were stars regardless, For example.

getting right to it ...bam and herro Develement as nba players is mostly not on any external Circumstances... It depends mostly on the player himself.
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Post#46 » by 3ammy3uck3ts » Wed Mar 19, 2025 4:59 pm

DayofMourning wrote:KD to Heat

Duncan, Rozier, Jaime, Jovic, 2030 and 2032 1sts to Suns.

Does that work financially?


At this second no but with contracts coming off the books this summer it probably does but that’s just a guess. Either way it’ll be close.

Whether fans want it or not (I do) they will 100% be trying to get KD this summer
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Re: 2025 Regular Season Thread Vol. 9 

Post#47 » by DayofMourning » Wed Mar 19, 2025 5:16 pm

3ammy3uck3ts wrote:
DayofMourning wrote:KD to Heat

Duncan, Rozier, Jaime, Jovic, 2030 and 2032 1sts to Suns.

Does that work financially?


At this second no but with contracts coming off the books this summer it probably does but that’s just a guess. Either way it’ll be close.

Whether fans want it or not (I do) they will 100% be trying to get KD this summer


From my perspective, if you can move the players mentioned and get an upgrade, you should do it. We arent moving Bam or Herro IMO, so we need to strike for as many players who give us an edge as possible.

Do we want to pay Jovic? Is Jaime a better option than Larsson?

If we want to maximize Bams timeline, this might be the best way to do it.

Davion/Fears
Herro/Larsson
KD/Wiggins
Bam/Fleming
Ware/????
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Post#48 » by twix2500 » Wed Mar 19, 2025 6:01 pm

al bondiga wrote:Spo is in a struggle, but I think the keys here are bam And herro development... Will they grow?

spo Type of coaching is not the best for youth development, This season is just a sample...lot of coaches this way,
Hell Riley was this way, That's why he prefer older guys... We might think of magic and wade, Those Players were stars regardless, For example.

getting right to it ...bam and herro Develement as nba players is mostly not on any external Circumstances... It depends mostly on the player himself.


If you want to truly give Bam and Herro a chance an a true evaluation, you got to give them a FULL year to succeed or fail not 15 games.
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Post#49 » by DayofMourning » Wed Mar 19, 2025 6:38 pm

With Wembanyama out for the season, Green, Cleveland's Evan Mobley, Atlanta's Dyson Daniels, Memphis' Jaren Jackson Jr., the LA Clippers' Ivica Zubac and Oklahoma City's Luguentz Dort, Shai Gilgeous-Alexander and Jalen Williams are considered among the contenders for the award.


No mention of Bam by ESPN. Pretty wild. OKC's entire team being considered though.
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Post#50 » by 3ammy3uck3ts » Wed Mar 19, 2025 7:14 pm

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With Wembanyama out for the season, Green, Cleveland's Evan Mobley, Atlanta's Dyson Daniels, Memphis' Jaren Jackson Jr., the LA Clippers' Ivica Zubac and Oklahoma City's Luguentz Dort, Shai Gilgeous-Alexander and Jalen Williams are considered among the contenders for the award.


No mention of Bam by ESPN. Pretty wild. OKC's entire team being considered though.


Read on Twitter


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Read on Twitter


Very wild, then you have stuff like this:

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It’s unfortunate that he won’t get the credit he’s deserved but as we continue to struggle year after year (despite great defenses he backpacks) with trash roster construction they will continue to slight him. In his best interest to ask out but it is what it is. We’ve been so ass this year they might not even put him on either all defense team despite him still being elite on that end
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Post#51 » by SerialChiller » Wed Mar 19, 2025 7:53 pm

Bam getting called out on the general board haha
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Post#52 » by DayofMourning » Wed Mar 19, 2025 7:55 pm

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Post#53 » by 3ammy3uck3ts » Wed Mar 19, 2025 8:00 pm

A clear hater using a 4 game sample size in which the team got throttled in 2 games and he wasn’t used as a scorer in 2 games lol

There’s alot of idiots in this world but dude was just stroking his agenda, wonder why a thread wasn’t made about the prior 20 games
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Re: 2025 Regular Season Thread Vol. 9 

Post#54 » by 3ammy3uck3ts » Wed Mar 19, 2025 8:07 pm

Sixers fans trying to trade Embiid for Bam in there and everyone else basically just saying what we’ve all said, this team is checked out and ready for it to be over so they can regroup
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Re: 2025 Regular Season Thread Vol. 9 

Post#55 » by VaDe255 » Wed Mar 19, 2025 8:18 pm

3ammy3uck3ts wrote:
Spoiler:
DayofMourning wrote:
With Wembanyama out for the season, Green, Cleveland's Evan Mobley, Atlanta's Dyson Daniels, Memphis' Jaren Jackson Jr., the LA Clippers' Ivica Zubac and Oklahoma City's Luguentz Dort, Shai Gilgeous-Alexander and Jalen Williams are considered among the contenders for the award.


No mention of Bam by ESPN. Pretty wild. OKC's entire team being considered though.


Read on Twitter


Read on Twitter


Read on Twitter


Very wild, then you have stuff like this:

Read on Twitter


It’s unfortunate that he won’t get the credit he’s deserved but as we continue to struggle year after year (despite great defenses he backpacks) with trash roster construction they will continue to slight him. In his best interest to ask out but it is what it is. We’ve been so ass this year they might not even put him on either all defense team despite him still being elite on that end


Stop it, Coop doesn't even know the difference between expected and actual EPM.
Bam isn't even a top 50 player this season when it comes to winning impact, he's never been impactful without Jimmy/Herro on the court and the only reason Heat were winning any games is Tyler was playing on a very high level before all star break, now that he is seamingly out of gas and can't carry the offense anymore nobody else can pick up the slack.

I can't hear this nonsense how good Bam is, when he literally doesn't impact winning much.

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Re: 2025 Regular Season Thread Vol. 9 

Post#56 » by 3ammy3uck3ts » Wed Mar 19, 2025 8:25 pm

VaDe255 wrote:
3ammy3uck3ts wrote:
Spoiler:
DayofMourning wrote:
No mention of Bam by ESPN. Pretty wild. OKC's entire team being considered though.


Read on Twitter


Read on Twitter


Read on Twitter


Very wild, then you have stuff like this:

Read on Twitter


It’s unfortunate that he won’t get the credit he’s deserved but as we continue to struggle year after year (despite great defenses he backpacks) with trash roster construction they will continue to slight him. In his best interest to ask out but it is what it is. We’ve been so ass this year they might not even put him on either all defense team despite him still being elite on that end


Stop it, Coop doesn't even know the difference between expected and actual EPM.
Bam isn't even a top 50 player this season when it comes to winning impact, he's never been impactful without Jimmy/Herro on the court and the only reason Heat were winning any games is Tyler was playing on a very high level before all star break, now that he is seamingly out of gas and can't carry the offense anymore nobody else can pick up the slack.

I can't hear this nonsense how good Bam is, when he literally doesn't impact winning much.

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This is fuxking hilarious :lol:
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Re: 2025 Regular Season Thread Vol. 9 

Post#57 » by VaDe255 » Wed Mar 19, 2025 8:34 pm

3ammy3uck3ts wrote:This is fuxking hilarious :lol:


Nothing about it is funny, they literally can't win a game.
8 game losing streak and you're trying to hype up Bam and how de doesn't get enough credit?

Now that is truly hilarious.
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Post#58 » by 3ammy3uck3ts » Wed Mar 19, 2025 8:42 pm

VaDe255 wrote:
3ammy3uck3ts wrote:This is fuxking hilarious :lol:


Nothing about it is funny, they literally can't win a game.
8 game losing streak and you're trying to hype up Bam and how de doesn't get enough credit?

Now that is truly hilarious.


Right it’s all his fault too honestly then you pull up a stat that shows Isaiah Joe would be the best player on the Heat for your support.

Bams has several huge moments in his career to back him impacting winning, you trying to act like Herro has EVER impacted winning in a meaningful way and insinuating he’s backpacking the team is hilarious. I guess you forgot all the runs we made when he went out with injury. Congrats on his empty numbers/fluke all star season tho
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Re: 2025 Regular Season Thread Vol. 9 

Post#59 » by VaDe255 » Wed Mar 19, 2025 8:44 pm

3ammy3uck3ts wrote:
VaDe255 wrote:
3ammy3uck3ts wrote:This is fuxking hilarious :lol:


Nothing about it is funny, they literally can't win a game.
8 game losing streak and you're trying to hype up Bam and how de doesn't get enough credit?

Now that is truly hilarious.


Right it’s all his fault too honestly then you pull up a stat that shows Isaiah Joe would be the best player on the Heat for your support.

Bams has several huge moments in his career to back him impacting winning, you trying to act like Herro has EVER impacted winning in a meaningful way and insinuating he’s backpacking the team is hilarious. I guess you forgot all the runs we made when he went out with injury. Congrats on his empty numbers/fluke all star season tho


This has nothing to do with Herro, just stated some very obvious facts about why they were winning games earlier in the season.

Bam has never impacted winning without Jimmy on the court.

His +/- without Jimmy/Herro on the court is straight up awful, I've posted the numbers before, he was carried by Jimmy and now we see how he's doing on his own and it is not pretty.
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Re: 2025 Regular Season Thread Vol. 9 

Post#60 » by dshearn » Wed Mar 19, 2025 8:53 pm

al bondiga wrote:Spo is in a struggle, but I think the keys here are bam And herro development... Will they grow?

spo Type of coaching is not the best for youth development, This season is just a sample...lot of coaches this way,
Hell Riley was this way, That's why he prefer older guys... We might think of magic and wade, Those Players were stars regardless, For example.

getting right to it ...bam and herro Develement as nba players is mostly not on any external Circumstances... It depends mostly on the player himself.



Somebody, is doing something right with the undrafted young guys. Don’t know if that is Spo or someone else.


I really do think we have multiple issues in play, roster, system, fit… etc i am sure Spo shares some blame in all of it…. But a bad time to pass judgment on a coach. Not like he trashed a team with a top 10 player.

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